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| DrIDK | Hello! When I tried to run saillfishOS emulator from my kubuntu, I get a black screen : http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/27/plasma-desktoppS1854.png | 09:34 |
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| stephg | DrIDK: first off, which kununtu? 14.04? | 09:37 |
| DrIDK | stephg: 14.04 | 09:37 |
| stephg | second off, which SDK version? | 09:37 |
| stephg | (if the newest, (also named 1404) did you download it the day that it was released or the day after, there was a bug for kde only in the initial one) | 09:38 |
| DrIDK | stephg: the last one. I guess 1404 | 09:38 |
| DrIDK | I downloaded yesterday | 09:38 |
| stephg | cool ok so don't have that, probably not related but worth a check | 09:39 |
| DrIDK | I think it comes from VirtualBox. I gonna reinstall from the official website | 09:39 |
| stephg | I'm running the ubuntu packaged one | 09:40 |
| stephg | and don't (often) see that | 09:40 |
| stephg | just a sec | 09:40 |
| stephg | and you don't have a pointer when it starts either? | 09:41 |
| stephg | you'll see those console messages on a normal boot and before wayland/lipstick start | 09:41 |
| stephg | but that should only be for a few seconds | 09:42 |
| stephg | and if you reboot the emulator? | 09:42 |
| DrIDK | stephg: this is the error : https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=21226 | 09:42 |
| DrIDK | stephg: and there is a video too :D ! Sounds like a common bug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzQ6WKmIIho | 09:43 |
| stephg | no that's not the problme here | 09:43 |
| stephg | that's normal | 09:43 |
| stephg | it's that the UX isn't starting | 09:43 |
| DrIDK | I can try to run it without qtcreator , to see if it works | 09:44 |
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| stephg | ssh'ing into the emulator and we should be able to see what's going on | 09:47 |
| DrIDK | stephg: ok. what's the defaut ip ? | 09:47 |
| stephg | e.g. ssh -l root -p2223 localhost -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/SailfishOS_Emulator/root | 09:47 |
| stephg | assuming you installed the SDK in the default place | 09:47 |
| DrIDK | I am in | 09:48 |
| stephg | cool | 09:48 |
| stephg | now to look at the lawgs :) | 09:48 |
| stephg | (don't know what we're looking for yet, am poking around mine to see what's what | 09:49 |
| stephg | ) | 09:49 |
| DrIDK | stephg: are you sure "piix4_smbux uninitialized" is not the problem . | 09:51 |
| DrIDK | ? | 09:51 |
| stephg | positive | 09:51 |
| stephg | they all say that at boot | 09:52 |
| stephg | the problem is that you're not getting further than that | 09:52 |
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| DrIDK | stephg: so, let me check the /var/log | 09:52 |
| stephg | very little there probably now, | 09:52 |
| stephg | you want to check the journal with journalctl -a | 09:53 |
| stephg | in one SSH session | 09:54 |
| stephg | do a journalctl -a -f | 09:54 |
| stephg | and in another as root | 09:54 |
| stephg | try systemctl-user start lipstick.service | 09:54 |
| stephg | see what the journal says | 09:54 |
| stephg | should look something like http://pastie.org/9116849 | 09:55 |
| DrIDK | systemctl-user start lipstick.service | 09:56 |
| DrIDK | Job failed. See system journal and 'systemctl status' for details. | 09:56 |
| stephg | systemctl status lipstick.service | 09:56 |
| stephg | ? | 09:56 |
| stephg | sorry | 09:56 |
| stephg | systemctl-user status lipstick.service | 09:57 |
| DrIDK | Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) | 09:57 |
| stephg | yeah the first one will do that | 09:57 |
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| stephg | but the systemctl-user one? | 09:57 |
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| stephg | or does that also say no such file... | 09:57 |
| stephg | (did it ever work btw?) | 09:58 |
| DrIDK | http://paste.kde.org/pqg89ou0z | 09:58 |
| stephg | right, so what about systemctl-user status lipstick.service | 09:59 |
| stephg | does that show a useful error, when it's working it looks like this: | 09:59 |
| stephg | http://pastie.org/9116859 | 09:59 |
| DrIDK | http://paste.kde.org/pdbwzem19 | 10:00 |
| stephg | systemctl-user not systemctl :) | 10:00 |
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| DrIDK | ah sorry | 10:01 |
| stephg | hehe | 10:01 |
| DrIDK | http://paste.kde.org/pxhr1z9l9 | 10:01 |
| stephg | it still may say nothing helpful but it's worth a look | 10:01 |
| DrIDK | also, the date is wrong compared with my clock. +1hour delayed | 10:01 |
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| stephg | which tz are you in? iirc the emulator thinks it's in Helsinki | 10:02 |
| stephg | so for me in London it's 2h out | 10:02 |
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| DrIDK | it's twelve from France! ( bonjour de la france!) | 10:03 |
| stephg | ok so that's the source of the 1h time difference then :) | 10:03 |
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| stephg | as to why lipstick is being naughty... | 10:03 |
| stephg | did the emulator ever work? is this the first time you've used it since you installed? | 10:04 |
| DrIDK | journalctl -a | tail -n 200 : http://paste.kde.org/pb361byph | 10:04 |
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| DrIDK | yes.. | 10:04 |
| DrIDK | let's try an iso | 10:04 |
| stephg | line 8 of that pastie is odd | 10:05 |
| stephg | (to me) | 10:05 |
| DrIDK | stephg: http://paste.kde.org/pu0uvamxe | 10:10 |
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| stephg | hm | 10:14 |
| stephg | I'm sure it is but check dbus is running | 10:16 |
| stephg | and that you have sockets at /run/dbus/system_bus_socket (probably) and /run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket (possibly not) | 10:18 |
| DrIDK | http://paste.kde.org/pnysjvpnd | 10:19 |
| stephg | k | 10:19 |
| stephg | at this stage, if you haven't altered the sdk environment (much) I'd uninstall and reinstall it | 10:20 |
| stephg | I'm out of ideas :( | 10:20 |
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| stephg | or patiently wait until someone who knows more turns up here... | 10:21 |
| DrIDK | stephg: I m trying to play with date.... it mays comes from here | 10:21 |
| DrIDK | stephg: Thanks for your help | 10:23 |
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| kaltsi | DrIDK: black screen on latest emulator? | 10:24 |
| DrIDK | kaltsi: yes | 10:24 |
| kaltsi | and ubu 1404. what kind of a host machine do you have? | 10:25 |
| stephg | his lipstick won't start | 10:25 |
| kaltsi | cpu? | 10:25 |
| kaltsi | DrIDK: the problem is probably this https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/003962.html | 10:25 |
| DrIDK | kaltsi: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz | 10:25 |
| kaltsi | DrIDK: ok .. and what's your computer/laptop? | 10:26 |
| DrIDK | desktop computer | 10:26 |
| kaltsi | the real problem is a bug in virtualbox that makes some cpu capabilities "leak through" to the virtual machine side | 10:26 |
| kaltsi | this causes a SIGILL (illegal instruction) in lipstick, which makes it unusable in some rare cases | 10:27 |
| kaltsi | we had a patch for this in llvm/mesa in earlier SDK but updated those components and didn't see the problem anymore, so it was deemed fixed.. but now you're the second person to run into the problem | 10:27 |
| DrIDK | also, the first sailfish SDK was working some time ago | 10:28 |
| kaltsi | yes.. Mikael in the mailin list was able to workaround this problem by turning off some virtual machine related settings in his bios | 10:29 |
| kaltsi | and now that I look at the mailing list, that story is not there since I exchanged private e-mails with him about it :P | 10:29 |
| DrIDK | How do you start lipstick from console ? | 10:30 |
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| kaltsi | it won't start in any case when you run into this problem | 10:30 |
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| kaltsi | DrIDK: unfortunately there's nothing really that can be done right now to fix the problem in your machine, unless you want to try the bios settings.. we'll need to release a patched version of those packages to fix it in the emu | 10:31 |
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| kaltsi | Mikael wrote "There was two options in the bios -> security related to "Intel | 10:32 |
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| kaltsi | virtualization" now sailfish emulator boots as expected :)" | 10:33 |
| kaltsi | but this really should not be necessary and we will need to fix it so that it works without changes like that | 10:33 |
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| DrIDK | Is there hidden repertories with the SDK ? I cannot reinstall it | 10:34 |
| kaltsi | hm reinstall what? nothing should be hidden.. | 10:35 |
| DrIDK | installation works now! let's try the bios stuff! | 10:36 |
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| DrIDK | lol | 10:41 |
| DrIDK | kaltsi: stephg it works now ! | 10:41 |
| kaltsi | ok :) | 10:41 |
| DrIDK | kaltsi: I enable "Intel virtualisation" and disable "security stuff... " | 10:42 |
| kaltsi | ok good to know | 10:42 |
| DrIDK | but I don't know which one solve the problem | 10:42 |
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| DrIDK | now, I waiting the jolla device! And will makes several apps :D | 10:43 |
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| kaltsi | :D | 10:43 |
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| DrIDK | If you plan to deploy Jolla in France, choose the "Free" company! They are using Qt everywhere inside the "freebox". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETlPTUsHOjA | 10:48 |
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| stephg | DrIDK: if you have access to a Nexus 4 you can also play with Sailfish on that too | 10:53 |
| stephg | (whilst you're waiting) | 10:53 |
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| meek_geek | sup | 11:56 |
| stephg | werd! | 11:57 |
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| Trizt | maybe a stupid question, when is update in the SDK supposed to work? It seems still just break the SDK completely | 13:21 |
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| meek_geek | hi | 13:31 |
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| Trizt | grrr... now I can't even start the VMs from the qtcreator, this been fixed in next version | 13:55 |
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| kimmoli_sailing_ | ot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlAQld4kx3M | 13:58 |
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| cos- | kimmoli_sailing_: thanks for link.. i ordered one for our hacklab | 14:31 |
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| kaltsi | Trizt: what kind of problems do you see with the update? | 15:22 |
| Trizt | kaltsi: update starts with failing to update the VMs, so the mer and emulator vm are broken. After full reinstall the project will not work any more, can't compile missing headers | 15:24 |
| Trizt | creating a new project works | 15:24 |
| kaltsi | Trizt: you'll be better off reinstalling the whole thing | 15:24 |
| Trizt | yes, full reinstall is reinstalling everything | 15:25 |
| kaltsi | did you happen to have the old VM's running when you started the update? | 15:25 |
| Trizt | kaltsi: nope, I had turned them off | 15:25 |
| kaltsi | what's your host machine | 15:25 |
| Trizt | Linux amd64 gentoo | 15:25 |
| kaltsi | so how are the VM's broken now? | 15:26 |
| kaltsi | what's your virtualbox version too btw? | 15:26 |
| Trizt | kaltsi: no, as I have made a full reinstall | 15:26 |
| Trizt | 4.2.16 | 15:27 |
| kaltsi | ok so VM's work but projects won't? | 15:27 |
| Trizt | no, don't have the options to start build nor emulator vm | 15:27 |
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| kaltsi | ok.. let's try this.. close qtcreator | 15:28 |
| kaltsi | then rm -f ~/.config/SailfishAlpha4 | 15:28 |
| kaltsi | rm -rf | 15:28 |
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| kaltsi | then start qtcreator again.. | 15:28 |
| kaltsi | then try opening one of your projects and if it say 'No' if it asks if you want to apply some settings | 15:29 |
| kaltsi | you may need to reconfigure your old project to use the sailfish kits.. that happens from the project tab where you should be able to select Sailfish arm/i486 kits | 15:30 |
| kaltsi | "Projects" tab on the left side of qt creator window | 15:30 |
| Trizt | still same result | 15:30 |
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| kaltsi | what kind of a project was it.. did you do it from scratch or based it on the template app? | 15:31 |
| Trizt | it's a the default template which was the base for the project | 15:32 |
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| kaltsi | and how do you open the project btw? I've never seen this so all I can do is imagine what you could be doing | 15:32 |
| Trizt | ctrl-o and then select the .pro file | 15:33 |
| Trizt | same issues when I updated from release 2 to release 3 | 15:33 |
| kaltsi | where have you installed the sdk? | 15:33 |
| kaltsi | into which path | 15:33 |
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| Trizt | ~/arch/SailfishOS | 15:34 |
| kaltsi | is your home dir /home/username or symlinked somewhere? | 15:34 |
| Trizt | yes a /home/username | 15:34 |
| kaltsi | ok.. and username does not have spaces? | 15:35 |
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| Trizt | no, it's not ms-windows | 15:35 |
| kaltsi | could you open the 'options' from qt creator and tell me how the Build & run -> Kits tab looks like | 15:36 |
| kaltsi | it shoud have two auto-detected kits named MerSDK-Sailfish* | 15:36 |
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| kaltsi | if you see those, do you see any warning symbols or error messages there | 15:37 |
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| Trizt | A wraning sign on the ARM | 15:38 |
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| kaltsi | that's probably because you may not have defined an arm device for the kit, but the i486 seems fine? | 15:38 |
| Trizt | yes | 15:38 |
| kaltsi | ok let's go back to your opened project.. what does the qt creator left side toolbar look like when you have your project opened | 15:39 |
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| kaltsi | what's above the run button which usually should be green | 15:39 |
| kaltsi | between the help and the run buttons.. don't know what to call that button | 15:40 |
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| kaltsi | if you click it what does it tell you about the project.. it should list its name and the kits available | 15:40 |
| Trizt | the debug item (sailfish icon and project name) | 15:40 |
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| kaltsi | if you click it, does it list kits or does it say something like 'configure project'? | 15:41 |
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| Trizt | No, it lists some desktop kit but I have selected the mer 486 kit | 15:43 |
| Merbot` | Mer bug 486 in tzdata "outdated tzdata package." [Task,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486 | 15:43 |
| DevBot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486 task, High, ---, not-taken, NEW, outdated tzdata package. | 15:43 |
| DevBot | Bug 486: task, High, ---, not-taken, NEW, outdated tzdata package. | 15:43 |
| kaltsi | lol | 15:44 |
| kaltsi | Trizt: lists some desktop kit? explain | 15:44 |
| kaltsi | Trizt: to me it sounds that your project is configured for 'desktop' meaning your host compiler => no mer stuff => no virtual machine buttons etc | 15:44 |
| kaltsi | Trizt: now if you click on the'projects' button in the same row of buttons on the left side of qt creator.. you should see a window where you can 'add kit' to your project | 15:45 |
| Trizt | yes, but it don't regard what I have choosen | 15:45 |
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| Trizt | a new project everything is as expected, you can choose debug or release from the "debug" icon | 15:47 |
| kaltsi | perhaps you could take some screenshots of what's there .. I've never seen it not use a kit that's available and selected | 15:47 |
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| Trizt | I'll do that | 15:47 |
| kaltsi | Trizt: one mor thing you could try.. close your project, and go and rm the projectname.pro.user file in the project dir.. then reopen it | 15:48 |
| kaltsi | it should ask you for the kits when you open it and you should select just the mer kits | 15:48 |
| Trizt | tried that one but didn't make any difference | 15:48 |
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| Titan_Arum | is there any way to raise call volume on the nexus 4 release? | 15:49 |
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| kaltsi | Trizt: did it start working or .. if not, let's see pics :) | 16:04 |
| Trizt | https://together.jolla.com/question/40997/sdk-automatically-update-projects/ | 16:08 |
| kaltsi | Trizt: if you press 'add kit' what does it show | 16:08 |
| Trizt | mer for arm and 486 | 16:09 |
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| kaltsi | and if you select one of those | 16:09 |
| kaltsi | it should appear next to that 'desktop' with build|run | 16:09 |
| Trizt | okey, not the buttons for the VMs appears, but still the same error message for build directory | 16:10 |
| kaltsi | and if that happens, then you should be able to select that from the selector | 16:10 |
| kaltsi | ok what .. ah that message, you can ignore it | 16:10 |
| Trizt | okey | 16:10 |
| kaltsi | it appears there even when everything is fine | 16:10 |
| Trizt | okey | 16:10 |
| Trizt | thats not so good | 16:11 |
| kaltsi | hmm well I was wrong.. it doesn't | 16:11 |
| kaltsi | I think it's there for you now since you've tried building it with the desktop kit? | 16:11 |
| Trizt | yes, I have tried | 16:12 |
| kaltsi | so before building anything, choose 'clean project' from the build meny | 16:12 |
| Trizt | okey | 16:12 |
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| kaltsi | you should now be able to build the old project too.. | 16:18 |
| kaltsi | I'll just answer something to that together post so that others don't start debugging it | 16:19 |
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| Umeaboy | sledges: You around? | 18:47 |
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| kimmoli | is there a way to tell QtCreator wizard that i want to retain line endings "LF" (for .spec file) even i'm working on windows platform ? | 19:20 |
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| ln- | are you sure it isn't your version control system's responsibility? | 19:24 |
| Acce | hmm.. I'm not sure, but at least some editors (notepad ++) give you option to choose unix / dos end-of-line characters | 19:24 |
| Acce | maybe qt creator has that option too? | 19:24 |
| Nicd- | hmm, isn't .spec autogenerated? | 19:25 |
| Acce | yeah it is, from yaml | 19:26 |
| Acce | but there is some way to stop it too I guess? since some people need to tweak it by hand | 19:27 |
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| Acce | why is the events view just black in the emulator packed with the new sdk? | 19:29 |
| kimmoli | i want to use only spec (no yaml here) | 19:29 |
| kimmoli | i could add binary=true to the wizard.xml, but then it does not process it (replace %Projectname% with given value etc...) | 19:30 |
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| kaltsi | kimmoli: I think spec file will not accept CRLF | 20:25 |
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| kimmoli | kaltsi: I know. I'm making my own wizard, and having LF -endings there, but when creating new project based on that wizard, it will change eol to CRLF (in Windows) | 20:28 |
| kaltsi | hm strange.. | 20:29 |
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| kaltsi | does the yaml file from the sailfish wizard get CRLF in windows? | 20:33 |
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| kimmoli | yes | 20:38 |
| kimmoli | but the created spec file gets LF | 20:38 |
| kaltsi | it's created in the linux vm | 20:38 |
| kaltsi | so specify (tool that converts yaml -> spec) can handle CRLF, but rpmbuild (which uses the spec) can't | 20:39 |
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| kimmoli | yes, that i have seen before... getting strange errors from tmp-files; file not found etc when building spec with crlf | 20:40 |
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| kaltsi | I don't know if it would be possible to use the <generatorscript> thingy to convert the line-endings to unix http://qt-project.org/doc/qtcreator-2.8/creator-project-wizards.html | 20:54 |
| kimmoli | tried, but got "crashed", "can't start cmd...;putty..." kind things | 20:56 |
| kaltsi | meh | 20:56 |
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