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| keithzg | Actually really like the implementation of the LPM screen concept on the Moto X, although the N9 is still better by virtue of being *always* on and being customizable via Billboard and such. | 00:43 |
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| keithzg | I really, really hope such a thing becomes possible with Sailfish on AMOLED devices. | 00:43 |
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| william_gen | hi,guys | 02:23 |
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| ericcc | HELLO | 05:14 |
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| Nicd- | how can I mage pageStack available in my javascript library? | 07:17 |
| Nicd- | or do I have to reroute my page creations through a qml page? | 07:17 |
| Nicd- | I may have found it | 07:18 |
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| Nicd- | hmm. it's supposed to be in ApplicationWindow.pageStack | 07:22 |
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| Nicd- | but it's undefined for me in Javascript... maybe I'll just give it to the library from a QML file | 07:23 |
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| Acce | Nicd-: did you try this http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtqml-javascript-imports.html#importing-a-qml-module-from-a-javascript-resource | 08:07 |
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| Nicd- | Acce: I got it working already, thanks :) I just passed the pagestack from a QML page | 08:18 |
| Acce | oh, ok ː) | 08:19 |
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| william_gen | hi,who know when next EA(EA3) for nexus4 will pubilish? | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | hmm not yet at least | 08:31 |
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| william_gen | :( | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | what in particular are you waiting for | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 08:32 |
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| william_gen | fix more bugs in EA2 | 08:48 |
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| william_gen | such as bug in fingertrem | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 08:51 |
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| tbr | but fingerterm you can just take RPMs from OBS | 08:58 |
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| william_gen | fingerterm NOW display text only on the left half screen to me.this is a bug | 09:02 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, was that the chinese characters problem? | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | / symbols | 09:02 |
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| william_gen | i dont know if or not | 09:12 |
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| william_gen | i dont know the reason | 09:18 |
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| vgrade | morning | 09:41 |
| coderus | hello | 09:42 |
| vgrade | hi coderus | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: did you ever get SFOS on joggler? | 09:42 |
| vgrade | of course | 09:43 |
| vgrade | can't leave that one out | 09:43 |
| coderus | i finally hacked Dialog externally and intercepted page feedback when trying to accept dialog with negative canAccept state, and now i can inform user what is wrong :) | 09:43 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: was X though as I racall | 09:44 |
| vgrade | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4bj2Dcvw9I | 09:45 |
| coderus | http://paste.kde.org/pmzyc1g0f | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: gah, no microphone.. | 09:50 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: ? | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | i had a usecase for it :P | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | hmm .. http://www.familie-kirchhofer.de/android/ | 09:51 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: wonder if it supports egl | 09:53 |
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| Stskeeps | prolly not | 09:55 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: does not look like it from screen shots | 09:55 |
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| Stskeeps | i kinda wonder why they don't use llvmpip | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | e | 10:00 |
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| coderus | Can anyone with facebook page help me to debug "right" avatar? https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues/78 | 10:15 |
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| coderus | nobody interested? :) | 10:45 |
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| SmarteX | hi | 11:16 |
| Waitee | hi | 11:16 |
| Nicd- | SmarteX: I have the jolla, not mako | 11:17 |
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| SmarteX | ah | 11:17 |
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| leszek | hi | 12:08 |
| SaaM | hi | 12:08 |
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| stephg | hi | 12:29 |
| meek_geek | hi | 12:34 |
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| ericcc | HI | 12:50 |
| ericcc | the http://www.romso.net/samsung/SCH-I679/ can run the sailfishos? | 12:50 |
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| tbr | ericcc: hmmm, looks interesting, probably the same CPU as in the Jolla phone | 13:00 |
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| ericcc | GOOD NEWS?@tbr | 13:05 |
| tbr | ericcc: if you are willing to put the work in, it should be possible. | 13:05 |
| tbr | ericcc: is there cyanogenmod for it? | 13:06 |
| ericcc | @tbr not , it is Custom machine in china | 13:06 |
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| tbr | ericcc: is that the 3G or the LTE model? | 13:09 |
| tbr | ericcc: can you confirm if this one has the Broadcom or the Qualcomm cpu? | 13:10 |
| tbr | as only the Qualcomm version would work | 13:11 |
| ericcc | it is Qualcomm | 13:13 |
| tbr | if the china version of this is qualcomm, then it should be possible. | 13:14 |
| ericcc | 3G model | 13:14 |
| tbr | the 3G model is listed as Broadcom on wikipedia | 13:14 |
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| ericcc | must be LTE? | 13:15 |
| ericcc | in china people have a lot Custom machine | 13:16 |
| nh1402 | ericcc: I'm assuming this is an android device, why don't you download CPU-Z for android to confirm which processor your phone is | 13:17 |
| tbr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Ace_3 | 13:17 |
| tbr | nh1402: he might not have one | 13:17 |
| tbr | "the LTE model[2][3] features a Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8930 SoC, whereas the 3G model features a Broadcomm BCM21664 SoC with a 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and a Broadcomm VideoCore IV GPU" | 13:17 |
| tbr | so make suuuuper sure, that it's a Qualcomm device | 13:18 |
| ericcc | cpu :arm cortex a5 | 13:22 |
| tbr | that's something completely else | 13:23 |
| meek_geek | does jolla phone use open baseband | 13:24 |
| tbr | meek_geek: what is an open baseband? open source or some product named open baseband? | 13:24 |
| meek_geek | tbr, Its open source baseband - the communication radio your mobile devices man | 13:25 |
| tbr | meek_geek: then the answer is no, there is no way to certify an open source baseband software to my knowledge | 13:25 |
| meek_geek | tbr, Ya its illegal cuz its open and then government cannot spy on ya .. just you can! heh | 13:26 |
| tbr | blabla | 13:26 |
| tbr | I think not even the RIL is open source, just the ofono parts on top of that | 13:26 |
| meek_geek | tbr, Sir are you a dev of Sailfish OS ? | 13:26 |
| cos- | hm, just experienced reboot when an incoming call rang. even the caller was not saved in log so i have no clue who it was. | 13:26 |
| tbr | meek_geek: I do $things around sailfish | 13:26 |
| meek_geek | jolla phone is not available in here | 13:27 |
| cos- | i'm at a place with poor cell reception, could be related | 13:27 |
| meek_geek | so I am thinking about buying a Geeksphone Revolution | 13:27 |
| meek_geek | I have heard it is in talks with Jolla Team to get Sailfish OS on it | 13:27 |
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| nh1402 | not that its going to do much, but in the adaptations/libhybris, someone could put N/A for the home key button for Nexus 5 | 13:35 |
| tbr | submit a fix | 13:36 |
| Umeaboy | The translations I made on transifex for Sailfish, will that be implemented with an upcomin update? | 13:36 |
| Umeaboy | I'm almost done. | 13:36 |
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| nh1402 | alright, I've submitted the fix. | 13:43 |
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| Stskeeps | Umeaboy: there's a item on the next community meeting on community localization/etc | 13:44 |
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| Umeaboy | OK. ;) | 13:45 |
| Umeaboy | They need to be reviewed by someone as well. | 13:46 |
| Umeaboy | I think I have some minor typos and I might've missunderstood some sentances. | 13:47 |
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| nh1402 | vgrade: Did you try using the ubuntu touch kernel, when porting Sailfish to the Nexus 5? | 14:08 |
| vgrade | nh1402: nope, just used stock CM11 + config mods for mer/sailfish | 14:09 |
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| nh1402 | interesting | 14:11 |
| vgrade | nh1402: any particular reason? | 14:11 |
| nh1402 | just wondering if more or less thing would work with that kernel | 14:12 |
| tbr | I'd expect the diff to be fairly small anyway | 14:12 |
| tbr | it's all descendant from some QC frankenkernel, I bet. | 14:13 |
| vgrade | \o tbr | 14:13 |
| vgrade | well most if not all things work with cm kernel + cm userspace | 14:14 |
| vgrade | so I'm happy to use that as a base | 14:14 |
| vgrade | work is needed in the sailfish hardware adaptation layer | 14:15 |
| vgrade | just looking at wlan now | 14:15 |
| vgrade | nh1402: do you have a link for that kernel | 14:16 |
| tbr | lo vgrade | 14:17 |
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| vgrade | hi meetingcpp | 14:19 |
| nh1402 | vgrade: well its available through the multirom app , not so sure about a specific link for just the kernel, I could extract it from my phone and upload it for you if you'd like | 14:19 |
| vgrade | github would be best | 14:19 |
| tbr | sourcessss or it didn't happen | 14:21 |
| vgrade | tbr: correct | 14:21 |
| vgrade | btw, nexus 5 stuff is at https://github.com/siteshwar?tab=repositories | 14:22 |
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| nh1402 | I'm sure its on github somewhere, but here is where I first came across it. http://goo.gl/dWO3iP | 14:24 |
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| vgrade | nh1402: so its the CM11 kernel + some config changes (mostly same as mer/sailfish) to suit ubuntu touch | 14:26 |
| tbr | biiig surprise, right there | 14:26 |
| tbr | not | 14:27 |
| nh1402 | I was just trying to help, I understand, that wlan works with ubuntu touch | 14:27 |
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| nh1402 | as you can probably tell, I'm not a kernel developer, although I would like to get into it. | 14:28 |
| vgrade | nh1402: thanks, it also works with cm11 as well so its as I said the bit between the kernel and sailfish | 14:30 |
| vgrade | which needs work | 14:30 |
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| vgrade | for example on N4 there has been an adaptation added to load thw wlan firmware | 14:31 |
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| vgrade | and this adaptation will be different for each device | 14:32 |
| vgrade | see the different device config directories here https://github.com/siteshwar/droid-hal-device | 14:33 |
| vgrade | eg the N4 wlan loader https://github.com/siteshwar/droid-hal-device/tree/hybris-11.0/device-lge-mako-configs/usr/bin/droid | 14:34 |
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| vgrade | same goes for audio config | 14:34 |
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| Venemo | hey | 14:50 |
| Venemo | is there a gyroscope (angular speed sensor) in the Jolla? | 14:51 |
| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.6-7 released. Download: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu Changelog: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.6-7 | 14:53 |
| kimmoli | Venemo: yes | 14:56 |
| Venemo | does this work? http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtsensors-gyroscope.html | 14:56 |
| kimmoli | i haven't tested that... the corresponding acceleromenter if works | 14:57 |
| Venemo | okay :) | 14:58 |
| kimmoli | dont know is this any help ?? or does it use dedicated stuff... /usr/share/csd/pages/testToolPages/VerificationGyro.qml | 14:59 |
| kimmoli | prop not helping | 14:59 |
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| kimmoli | this works in siika, import QtSensors 5.0 | 15:01 |
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| M4rtinK | well, I've been playing with an Android planetarium app and it seemed to work quite nicely | 15:12 |
| M4rtinK | so maybe the magnetometer output is already fused with the gyroscope data | 15:13 |
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| meek_geek | can sailfish battle tizen ? | 15:21 |
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| Venemo | thanks kimmoli I'll look into it | 15:21 |
| Umeaboy | It's a little bit shame that I can't help develop an image for my Samsung Galaxy Tab P1000. I wish I had the knowledge. | 15:22 |
| Umeaboy | It IS unlocked when it comes to the bootloader. | 15:22 |
| meek_geek | I think Sailfish OS needs to release its stuff on more devices | 15:23 |
| meek_geek | for people who want to flash | 15:23 |
| Waitee | meek_geek: guess what jolla is busy doing :D | 15:24 |
| meek_geek | Waitee, what ? | 15:24 |
| meek_geek | What is Jolla busy doing ? | 15:24 |
| meek_geek | It cannot even ship stuff to China and more Asian Countries | 15:25 |
| meek_geek | You know wwhat i am doin g? | 15:25 |
| meek_geek | Waitin for Geeksphone phone to port Sailfish OS to their Revolution phone before I buy it | 15:25 |
| meek_geek | I love Jolla in the videos | 15:25 |
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| Waitee | you must take into account that jolla has a staff of 100 engineers where samsung and others have several tens of thousands | 15:25 |
| meek_geek | But sad part is .. i cannot feel it yet | 15:25 |
| meek_geek | Waitee, I know Sir | 15:26 |
| meek_geek | But fuck Samsung try Moto Q | 15:26 |
| meek_geek | Moto X | 15:26 |
| meek_geek | Nexus | 15:26 |
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| Waitee | havent tried moto Q or X | 15:27 |
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| meek_geek | Waitee, I think Samsung = more prop. stuff | 15:27 |
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| Umeaboy | I would like to see the CM-phone Oppa to get an image for Sailfish. | 15:27 |
| meek_geek | Waitee, Jolla's target has to be shipping Jolla worldwide | 15:27 |
| Waitee | jollas target is having sailfishos available worldwide | 15:28 |
| Waitee | not necessarily the jolla device itself | 15:28 |
| meek_geek | I am going to buy Oppo 7 or One plus one | 15:28 |
| Umeaboy | It would be nice to have a program that automates the build of an image. | 15:28 |
| meek_geek | Oppa N1 is outta my budget | 15:28 |
| Waitee | they told in a press release their target for 2014 is half a million devices running sailfishos | 15:28 |
| lbt | Umeaboy: ? | 15:28 |
| lbt | we have a service called IM | 15:29 |
| lbt | IMG even | 15:29 |
| Umeaboy | You only need to connect the device when it's rooted and then the program just builds the image & flashes it. | 15:29 |
| lbt | "Image Me Give" ... it was aimed at the less advanced devs... | 15:29 |
| Waitee | okay now it's time for sauna | 15:29 |
| Umeaboy | Really? | 15:29 |
| vgrade | \o lbt , good trip | 15:30 |
| meek_geek | I want to donate Sailfish OS | 15:30 |
| meek_geek | 200 Dollars | 15:30 |
| meek_geek | how can I do it ? | 15:30 |
| lbt | hey vgrade | 15:30 |
| lbt | Umeaboy: not quite at the burn level - but yeah | 15:31 |
| meek_geek | i think ubuntu touch would kill tizen and sailfish | 15:31 |
| lbt | vgrade: too few people in the ELC world know about us | 15:31 |
| nh1402 | Canonical stopped official development of Ubuntu Touch for Android devices, Sailfish is about to start | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | nono, that's not what they did | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | canonical stopped their ubuntu inside android work, not ubuntu touch on android devices | 15:32 |
| Eztran | Ubuntu for Android was discontinued, =! Ubuntu Touch. | 15:32 |
| nh1402 | my bad | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | they really screwed up at marketing if that's what people think.. | 15:33 |
| Eztran | Not that they look any closer to actually releasing anything final, anyway... | 15:33 |
| meek_geek | Ubuntu TOuch would kill it | 15:33 |
| Eztran | Emphasis on 'would'. Jolla shipped a product. | 15:33 |
| locusf | https://img.merproject.org/img/queue/ <- is this still active? | 15:33 |
| meek_geek | Jolla = rocks | 15:33 |
| meek_geek | Ubuntu Touch = make others kick rocks | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | locusf: shoould be | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | else prod jetlagged lbt | 15:34 |
| lbt | locusf: yes | 15:34 |
| lbt | locusf: very limited access though | 15:34 |
| locusf | lbt: oh ok | 15:35 |
| lbt | (I think you're on the list fwiw) | 15:35 |
| locusf | yeah I got logged in :) | 15:35 |
| meek_geek | Chrome OS + Firefox OS would be on mobile platforms for web lovers | 15:36 |
| meek_geek | and Android vs Tizen or Sailfish wud be mainstream | 15:36 |
| locusf | someone has really given IMG some steroids :p | 15:38 |
| nh1402 | what is so good about tizen?, I've seen one video, and the UI looked more or less the same with Android, and the icons were beyond hideous | 15:38 |
| locusf | we could use this for Nemo images | 15:38 |
| lbt | meek_geek: seriously ... buy a jolla phone ... sailfishos isn't the kind of project to take donations (though Mer is :) ) | 15:38 |
| lbt | locusf: you should, yes | 15:38 |
| vgrade | lbt: was your talk filmed as I know there was a mess up in that regard this year | 15:38 |
| Eztran | lbt: think the device is not available where they are, hence wanting Jolla to release further afield. | 15:39 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, did they actually ever release any code or binaries for the Ubuntu for Android project ? | 15:39 |
| M4rtinK | or was it another paper project like Ubuntu TV ? | 15:39 |
| meek_geek | I want Jolla on Geeksphone Revolution or Oppo 7 | 15:40 |
| lbt | vgrade: I don't know - we'll find out. I didn't notice cameras but you tend not to | 15:40 |
| lbt | vgrade: there's audio :/ | 15:40 |
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| Eztran | Ubuntu for Android was basically a chroot IIRC? Saw it running somewhere, was horribly slow. | 15:40 |
| lbt | well, there will be one day - this is LF after all ;) | 15:40 |
| locusf | lbt: I'd need more tokens to build nemo images, we are using NEMO_RELEASE and SSU_RELEASE_TYPE | 15:41 |
| lbt | locusf: we can update it | 15:41 |
| locusf | lbt: that'd be great, thanks :) | 15:42 |
| locusf | --tokenmap=MER_RELEASE:latest,NEMO_RELEASE:latest,SSU_RELEASE_TYPE:rnd,FLAVOUR:devel | 15:42 |
| locusf | lbt: are the extra repos linked to build.merproject.org? | 15:43 |
| M4rtinK | Trizt: was it you who wanted the python3-debus package ? | 15:43 |
| locusf | I only see Community MeeGo and MeeGo and openSUSE | 15:43 |
| M4rtinK | Trizt: so here it is: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/MartinK:/sailfish/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/armv7hl/dbus-1-python3-1.2.0-10.3.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 15:44 |
| lbt | locusf: done | 15:45 |
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| lbt | locusf: extras? | 15:45 |
| locusf | lbt: in the submit page? | 15:45 |
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| locusf | lbt: Extra repositories and packages | 15:46 |
| lbt | no - they should be | 15:47 |
| locusf | thanks for the tokens | 15:47 |
| locusf | lbt: ok thanks | 15:47 |
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| SmarteX_ | Hi | 15:49 |
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| SmarteX_ | is there any fix for thr low volume in call | 15:49 |
| locusf | lbt: one more, FLAVOUR :) | 15:52 |
| meek_geek | SmarteX_, wait for another phone and switch to it | 15:54 |
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| lbt | locusf: done | 15:56 |
| locusf | lbt: thanks a bunch :) | 15:56 |
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| SmarteX_ | what, meek_geek ? | 16:02 |
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| M4rtinK | hmm, the Python 3 dbus module seems to be working | 16:15 |
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| M4rtinK | or at least does not crash during import in the Python 3 shell :) | 16:15 |
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| Trizt | M4rtinK: sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone else | 16:35 |
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| M4rtinK | Trizt: ok :) | 16:35 |
| * Trizt just idles here most of the time | 16:35 | |
| M4rtinK | there was someone working on a Python 3 & PyOtherSide project and wanted Python DBUS bindings | 16:36 |
| M4rtinK | maybe fawzi ? :) | 16:36 |
| M4rtinK | or some similar name | 16:36 |
| Trizt | :) | 16:40 |
| * Trizt tries to populate a drop down list with data from db, but it seems like all qml examples won't work in sailfishos as "model" don't seem to be supported | 16:41 | |
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| M4rtinK | I think it should work | 16:42 |
| M4rtinK | if you have a repeater in the combobox/drop down menu | 16:43 |
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| kkruglov | when the next build for nexus 4 comes?) | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | probably with next update | 18:27 |
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| kkruglov | and what about the date of next update? | 18:27 |
| kkruglov | and some people got store working on this build | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | well, we update sailfishos monthly ish i think it was | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i'm sure | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | it'll be a mess to clean up :) | 18:28 |
| kkruglov | :)) | 18:28 |
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| kkruglov | after a day of use, I'm really thinking of buying jolla in future | 18:29 |
| stephg | kkruglov: do it, you know you want to :) | 18:29 |
| kkruglov | but there are really small amount of apps in store, which is small disappointment | 18:30 |
| tbr | given that the native SDK is still _alpha_, I'm surprised how many there are | 18:31 |
| kkruglov | yeah, especially 2 feedly clients | 18:31 |
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| Nightmare__ | go make your own :D | 18:32 |
| kkruglov | xdd | 18:32 |
| kkruglov | how are the notifications of android apps looks on sailfish? | 18:33 |
| M4rtinK | kkruglov: depends on the store :) | 18:33 |
| M4rtinK | kkruglov: quite a lot of stuff in OpenRepos :) | 18:33 |
| stephg | a bit hit and miss, but they work ← with Play Store | 18:33 |
| kkruglov | yeah, I saw openrepos, it really looks more filled than harbour | 18:34 |
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| tbr | no surprise as everybody can upload whatever there :) | 18:36 |
| tbr | harbour does actual QA | 18:36 |
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| M4rtinK | tbr: well, once final Qt 5.2 is in & more Nemo APIs are stabilized | 18:39 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: I expect the store/OpenRepos application availability should equalize | 18:40 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: or at least improve | 18:40 |
| tbr | let's hope so | 18:40 |
| M4rtinK | also once chum gets going | 18:40 |
| tbr | yeah, that will now need some work | 18:40 |
| M4rtinK | it will provide a nice alternative to both | 18:40 |
| tbr | it's not meant as an alternative | 18:41 |
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| M4rtinK | well yeah, it is more of an extension | 18:41 |
| * Stskeeps sips some coffee and works on slides.. | 18:42 | |
| M4rtinK | but I guess we will only see how it develops for real once people actually start using it | 18:42 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: situ: http://source.android.com/devices/graphics/architecture.html | 18:53 |
| situ | Looking at it. | 18:54 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: thanks, I was wanting to understand more and maybe add some diagrams including qpa | 18:56 |
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| coderus | kkruglov: android notifications wrapped into sailfish notifications and visible in events/notifications feed | 18:58 |
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| Stskeeps | does anybody have a list of the various TOHs that's been made up to now? | 18:59 |
| tbr | nope, if only there was an official sailfish wiki... | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 19:00 |
| tbr | oh wait, everything gets shoehorned into tjc, the new tmo | 19:00 |
| tbr | *snerk* | 19:00 |
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| * tbr knows about iq-charleast 5 versions, solar, oled, mytoh (devboard), tohiri | 19:01 | |
| Stskeeps | .. iri? | 19:02 |
| * Stskeeps looks that one op | 19:02 | |
| Stskeeps | ah, thermal imager | 19:02 |
| tbr | yeah | 19:02 |
| M4rtinK | +keyboard | 19:11 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: there is a nice slide deck about TOH from xmlich02: http://www.slideshare.net/leonanavi/2014-jollatoh | 19:16 |
| M4rtinK | short but concise :) | 19:17 |
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| meek_geek | hi | 19:30 |
| kimmoli | familiar things me see there | 19:37 |
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| kimmoli | there is also skvarks powertoh, and rgb-led-chameleon | 19:39 |
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| meek_geek | hi | 19:43 |
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| lbt | locusf: fwiw you don't seem to have uploaded a ks ? | 20:05 |
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