Monday, 2014-05-05

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chriadamcos-: what the...00:38
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basscatazis there any way to raise the nexus 4 call volume through pulseaudio or alsa?03:55
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Juubaanyone have the "Phone" app, or it's "call log" get stuck06:28
Juubareboot fixed it06:28
cos-haven't seen that06:29
rauzJuuba: i had the same problems a number of times in the last week06:30
Juubabrowsing atm06:31
Juubamaybe this?
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rauzthat's from me i still have this problem :)06:35
Juubaalso, phone reboot clears the log for me06:35
Juubahow do you look inside the commhistory.db?  just some text-editor?06:35
rauzconsole on the phone and sqlite commandline06:36
rauzbut i'm to busy at work in the moment to deal with the problem06:36
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Juubayeah, and I don't have the knowhow, I just report bugs when I see them :D06:39
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Venemo_jkimmoli: how do you decide on a vendor id and such stuff in uinput?08:16
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stephgStskeeps, got round to getting sp-endurance on my n4 and now learning my way around timedclient-qt, what's a suitable runinterval for this? 24h seems long? 6? 12?08:41
Stskeepsno clue if timedclient would be the right thing08:41
Stskeepsi would just sleep 8640008:42
stephgI thought about sleep, but isn't sleep going to suffer from the OS deep sleep stuff and end up sleeping rather longer?08:42
stephgtho I suppose timed isn't immune from that either...08:43
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m4g0gI need checkbox in silica. Is it textswitch component?08:48
kimmoliVenemo_j: i did just put something there... ascii :) KL, OH08:49
m4g0gI made  property alias exclusive: exclusiveSwitch.checked08:50
m4g0gbut my switch hasn't switch icon08:50
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kimmoliis it left edge? padding missing?08:51
m4g0gthis my code08:52
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kimmolicheck the componengallery example, copy it under w08:55
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kimmoliobviously you have08:56
Venemo_jkimmoli: so you're free to choose whatever you want?08:56
kimmoliVenemo_j: i did took the liberty08:56
Venemo_jkimmoli: and what's the bus_virtual thing?08:56
kimmolim4g0g: is there something else wrong with that page? run your app from terminal to get warnings.08:57
kimmoliVenemo_j: it meanss that there is no physical interface beihnd, like usb or bluetooth08:58
Venemo_jbut there is, isn't there?08:58
m4g0gkimmoli: there is no any warnings08:59
kimmolithere is i2c... but as i dont use any kernel drivers, i dont really connect it there08:59
kimmoliso i decided virtual is close enough for me08:59
kimmolim4g0g: strange. so you dont seen the ball there, sa in here?
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m4g0gkimmoli: no. It's strange. Only text. But in components app I see all as needed09:04
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kimmolitry to add x: Theme.paddingLarge09:05
kimmoliis the text on left edge of screen, or is the text in correct place, but just the "radiobutton" missing?09:06
kimmolidoand you have:  import QtQuick 2.0 and import Sailfish.Silica 1.009:06
m4g0gkimmoli: yes. There is no radiobutton09:07
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m4g0gkimmoli: x property doesn't help09:08
Venemo_jkimmoli: ok09:10
Venemo_jkimmoli: next question: what is that sync method and what do you use it for?09:11
m4g0gkimmoli: - this is my page09:13
kimmoliaa on emulator. someone did wonder similar issues few days ago, logs say walokra  ?09:15
walokrayep, it was me but now I don't have that issue09:17
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walokrait was something with the checked property of textswitch09:18
kimmolim4g0g: can you test on phone?09:19
walokraI didn't have it on phone09:20
m4g0gi don't remember how to deply to device but I try09:22
kimmolii don't use emulator at all...09:24
m4g0git's not very comfortable to test all on phone09:26
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netzviehStskeeps: regarding the meeting tomorrow, does "Security Model" include privacy related things?09:33
Stskeepswell, you can discuss things, it may just be introductionary to talk about things09:34
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m4g0gkimmoli: yes. on phone all right09:39
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walokrainteresting. my app hasn't changed regarding basic functionality but now it was rejected from harbour due "too high power consumption"11:30
kenguit seems harbour rejects almost everything11:32
fluxwalokra, what kind of app was that?11:32
tbrmaybe they missed something the first time around?11:33
walokraampiaiskala: app which gets atom feed from url and shows it11:33
fluxis there a chance there's a bug that triggers power consumption?11:33
flux(ie. an animation that is updated too frequently, an infinite loop, etc..)11:34
walokrathere are some timers so it's possible11:34
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sharpneliHow often do you update it while on background?11:34
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coderusMitakuuluu v0.6-8 update. Changelog: Download:
walokrasome ui related timers11:35
fluxwalokra, have you tested cases where you have none or bad network connectivity..11:35
walokraflux: good point11:36
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walokrahow do I run powertop as root?11:40
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fluxI just installed sudo, it's more convenient11:43
fzki thought everyone always ran as root11:49
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Nicd-fzk: android used to, even if you didn't have any shell open all your input went into a root shell11:51
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fzkNicd-: i was being ironic, but thats good to know11:53
Nicd-you just had to be careful not to write 'reboot' into an SMS for example :P11:54
fzkwonder if killall works the same way there as on solaris.. :-)11:54
sharpneliSolaris killall <311:55
Raimhehe, you only make that mistake once11:55
walokrathe harbour message about power usage is too vague about it. of course it's not they're job to debug it but some pointers would be good11:56
cos-the power issues are a pain to debug11:57
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sharpneliWith bad luck the tester device had an unrelated power consumption bug11:58
cos-i ran the idle consumption test myself and got passing result while harbour testers got different numbers11:59
walokracos-: is there some specific test? other than the tips in tjc12:00
m4g0gfuck. In emulator all  will be fine but when I launch app on device it becomes awful. Small font, small height of items and others. ((12:01
Nicd-m4g0g: did you use something other than Theme for your font sizes?12:02
cos-walokra: i ran powertop via ssh. that's what testers do afaik12:02
walokrayep, that's what tjc says12:02
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m4g0gNicd-: no12:22
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walokraand if I don't find any power issues on my app how should I resend it to harbour? there's no explanation field?12:36
walokra"here's it again. try not to find the issue this time" :)12:37
BlueMagmaI don't understand what's going on on the store12:38
BlueMagmaI submitted my app12:38
BlueMagmaon harbour12:38
BlueMagmaIt was accepted today12:39
BlueMagmaand there was no way of installing it12:39
BlueMagmaafter some comment on the fact that you couldn't install the app12:39
Nicd-which app?12:39
BlueMagmaIt was removed12:39
Nicd-yeah, can't see it12:40
Nicd-some problem on their end I think12:40
BlueMagmaYou could have about half an hour ago12:40
BlueMagmathat's what I thought, but I got no info12:40
BlueMagmathat is really weird12:44
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sharpneliAnd now for something completely different: I can hardly wait for first AArch64 version of Sailfish.12:51
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m4g0gdoes qml has bool type?13:18
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Nicd-m4g0g: yes13:19
m4g0gQObject::connect: No such signal ApplicationWindow_QMLTYPE_11_QML_68::requestAddBooksShelf (QString, bool, bool, bool)13:20
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sublinhadoHi, I subscribed to receiving the e-mails for Sailfish OS some weeks ago, but never got any. How should I proceed?14:13
Stskeepswell, you want for nexus 4?14:14
sublinhadoThis is a copy of the e-mail? Thank you14:19
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SmarteXHas anyone got some informations about the EA3?14:46
Stskeepsno news, probably waiting for next jolla update14:46
Stskeepson the plus side, we prolly found out why call audio is wonky14:46
SmarteXWhy is it?14:46
Stskeepsbad calling conventions between sailfish side and android hal side14:47
Stskeeps(long story)14:47
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Stskeepsbasically something we forgot when we enabled audio, but that our jolla device has in it's headers14:48
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* netzvieh had no problems with call audio on EA2, though I read some people complaining the volume is too low14:49
cvp_yeah , my is lower than the updates before14:50
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SmarteXIs there any ready fix for this?14:59
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cvp_volume on 1.0.4.xx is loud enough, after 1.0.5.xx... very low15:00
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cvp_o2 1.0.3? ... cant remember15:01
SmarteXYeah. I don't think a rpm pkg can fix the hardware abrstraction later15:01
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netzviehwell I never used calls on my jolla so can't say nothing about the switch from 1.0.3/4 to, but on EA2 on the mako I think it's loud enough, even in a pub (most important location :))15:05
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Guest91125Is there coming a SailfishOS programming meeting nearby Helsinki?16:22
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AcceGuest91125: there was going to be, but no-one got up to make it happen in the end17:20
Acceyou could be the one to make it happen though!17:20
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fzkhmm, what is the latest sailfish image for n9?17:22
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fzklatest im able to find is
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Eztranfzk: post- are quite broken, last I saw.17:23
fzkEztran: ok, how stable would be?17:24
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EztranUsable, apparently. Whether you could use it daily mainly depends on what you need working.17:26
fzkwell, mostly wanna try it out17:26
EztranMight wanna have a look through
fzkthere seems to be a for n95017:27
Eztran1.0.3.7 had serious issues IIRC.17:27
fzkyeah, looking at that thread atm17:27
Nicd-wasn't it
EztranThe Jolla version was, there was certainly some thing going around on N9/50 though.17:28
fzkhm, how tedious would it be to build an image?17:32
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EztranWell, kickstarts are available.17:34
fzkalso wondering a bit about what implications it would have if i skipped flashing the harmattan image17:35
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fzkand just install the openmode kernel directly17:36
EztranShould work, I guess? Certainly not sure on that, though.17:38
fzksure, perhaps the aegis stuff would be bork17:38
fzkbah, lets do this :-)17:42
EztranGood luck :)17:43
fzkbut still would want to build the latest sailfish, if that even is possible?17:44
Yanielyou can build parts of it17:44
Yanielsee the mer and nemo projects17:45
YanielI'm pretty sure you could build some packages and replace stuff from the image with them17:46
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fzkyeah, i was just looking at the mer wiki17:48
SmarteXAnyone got video playback support on mako? I managed to get audio only (from video and mp3 files)17:50
Eztrannon-free codecs aren't included with the mako release AFAIK, any chance it could be those?17:52
SmarteXI've managed to install the MP3 codec, but on the web... Well I couldn't find any codec for mp4 playback17:52
meek_geekCan anyone gimme a link on how to rebuild packages from source in Sailfish OS ? and what all packages can be build ?17:52
YanielSmarteX: mp4, you probably mean H.26417:53
SmarteXYaniel Yeah, sorry17:53
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SmarteXSo... Has anyone got a package with the codecs?17:55
Eztranthe sailfish_lib repo on OpenRepos seems to have some (gst-plugins-ugly/bad-extra et al). Might be worth a look?17:55
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SmarteXEztran: It won't install. I tried it.18:09
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EztranWhat won't install, exactly? A package? The repo itself?18:10
SmarteXAny of the packages18:10
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Eztranwhat does pkcon say?18:11
SmarteXActually, I downloaded the rpms from openrepos18:11
SmarteXAnd used a file manager to install them18:11
SmarteXlet me try to install it via pkco18:11
Eztranpkcon install-local path-to-package, if they're on your system.18:11
EztranAlso possibly worth noting is - just seems to be a metapackage to pull all codec-related stuff off sailfish_lib, providing that repo is installed first.18:13
SmarteXIt seems pkcon worked... Maybe the issue was the file manager.18:14
SmarteXEztran: I was going to try that too18:14
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EztranBah, no solving an issue which disappears when you use terminal :)18:15
SmarteXAFK (dinner :O)18:16
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walokraaargh, can't find any reason my app could be power hungry. after gettin all data from network and minimized it doesn't ping up in powertop19:06
sharpneliWhat about if it's maximized?19:07
walokrait doesn't do anything if you don't touch it :)19:07
SpeedEvilDoes it eat CPU?19:07
SpeedEvilWhy do you think it is power hungfyr19:07
walokraI don't think. QA thinks19:08
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SpeedEvilDo they have any measurements?19:08
walokradidn't give any or any pointers. just "It seems that..."19:09
walokramuch helpful19:09
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M4rtinKwell, I would say just resubmit then19:15
M4rtinKcould be one of them was, lets say, "less competent"19:15
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walokrayep, turning to that solution but getting some data and researching the issuea19:17
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SmarteXMako has got a serious problem: it takes a lot of tries to wake it up19:33
SmarteXSometimes it doesn't even wake19:33
Stskeepsyou're on EA2 and only ever installed it?19:34
SmarteXI read that in the known issues19:34
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SmarteXBut I thought it was something... less problematic19:34
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SmarteXAt least, the phone is cold as a stone, unlike on KitKat19:35
Stskeepsmaybe some proximity sensor config got wiped out19:35
Stskeepsi need to try it better19:35
SmarteXGot any quick fix?19:35
SmarteXAhh. Do you know a way to turn it off (if I press Power Off in fastboot, it restarts.)19:36
Stskeepsthat somehow sounds alarm related19:37
Stskeepsusb plugged in?19:37
SmarteXAnd there's the massive UI (and apps) lag19:37
SmarteXBattery at 47% unplugged, WiFi on, Mobile Data off19:37
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Stskeepsdefine UI/apps lag?19:38
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SmarteXFPS drops to 3-4 (approx., haven't tried the lag graph). Imagine trying to run KDE on a raspiberry pi19:39
fzkso, if i modify an existing kickstart for n950 and build and sailfish image from it, and install nemo+the image, would that work or will it be totally bork?19:39
fzkwas thinking for latest19:39
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StskeepsSmarteX: KDE on a pi, ouch19:40
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StskeepsSmarteX: how many apps open? right after unlock?19:41
SmarteXStskeeps Happens even with Mitakuuluu and Settings app. But the lag can happen even with no apps running.19:41
SmarteXAnd if I try to open an app with the lag that's going on, the app just doesn't open. I have then to wait 30 seconds or more (even 2 minutes) to get a working Nexus 4 (no more lag).19:43
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Stskeepsokay, sounds like i need to start using it as a daily device..19:44
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Stskeepsi've seen that problem fwiw19:48
Stskeepsbut i wonder what causes it19:48
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SmarteXIt really bugs me19:53
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SmarteXHas anyone been able to link his/her FB account?20:01
stephgSmarteX: yep20:01
stephghang on20:02
stephgcan't remember20:02
stephgdef with Friends, not sure about FB itself20:02
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stephgyes with the integrated FB too20:02
SmarteXIf I try to add the account, I see a blank page (WiFi). If I add an account on 3G, I can't auth it20:04
SmarteXI want that damn fb chat xP20:04
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SmarteX(On 3g) when I tap "Login", it takes me to a page filled with random numbers/words (probably the engine not being able to handle the data)20:06
stephgeh? really?20:06
lbtSmarteX: I noticed mako being hard to wake up too. For you does the power button do wake/sleep just fine once it's come alive?20:06
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lbtI think it's going into a deep sleep and the power button interrupt is not waking it20:07
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SmarteXlbt: Yes, actually. The hardest part is waking it up, after that, it works pretty good (both wake/sleep). I'm starting to think it's a Cpu-going-too-much-on-sleep problem20:08
SmarteXLike going to very low freq.20:08
lbtI press power rapidly20:08
lbtfound this out last week at ELC :)20:08
slateHad that problem with Jolla-HW too. Dont know if the cause is same though.20:09
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walokrahmm, might be my app's power usage is due opening webkit (old discussion in sailfishdevel) and not popping the page when minimized20:10
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SmarteXwalokra: Isn't webkit very power hungry?20:13
walokrawhat else to use for opening webview in your app?20:14
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SmarteXYours is the only solution, AFAIK. Guess we'll have to wait until Jolla fixes this.20:15
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StskeepsSmarteX: check if there's anything interesting in 'dmesg' perhaps20:16
SmarteXStskeeps: Want a full copypaste of the file? (on pastebin)20:18
Stskeepsyeah, sure, but now i have to go to sleep :) mail me at carsten dot munk at jolla dot com20:18
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SmarteXOk, good night :-)20:19
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* keithzg debates whether it's worth trying to find a place that'll fix his Nexus 4, hmmm21:06
slatewhats wrong with it21:06
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keithzgBroke the screen yesterday on the silly concrete sidewalks they recently "renovated" my neighborhood with (before it was nice soft paving).21:09
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keithzgWent from avoiding ever even scratching it to completely useless in a single drop :(21:09
slatereplaced mine with a part from ebay, just under 100eur21:09
keithzgIs it actually that easy to replace a Nexus 4 screen? I've replaced an N9 screen but that's just two torx screwdrivers (and some sanding down of the plastic mounting bits, since the part I got was annoyingly off from the dimensions/mounting of the N9 in question).21:10
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slatethere are good instructions with pics / videos21:11
keithzgTempting then, although I hate working with shattered glass, and the screen is basically dust right now :(21:13
slateyou remove the digitizer + display in one piece.21:13
slatethen replace them with new ones.21:14
keithzgYeah, I do know that, just apprehensive about getting glass everywhere as I remove it.21:14
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keithzgheh fair enough21:15
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keithzgHmm, ifixit doesn't have a screen repair guide for the Nexus 4? Lame.21:19
keithzgI'm sure there are a bazillion video tutorials but I kindof loathe video tutorials.21:20
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fzklets see if i can boot this crap22:12
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fzkwhich package provides in sailfish?22:24
stephgfzk: libhybris-libGLESv222:26
fzkstephg: ok, thank you, will try22:27
fzkhard when i can search the package archive22:27
stephgwhat are you up to?22:27
fzkbuilding from scratch22:28
fzkhmm, couldnt find that22:29
fzkah, sbj22:29
fzki must have typo somewhere22:30
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fzk <- thats it i suppose22:31
stephglooks like it22:32
stephgthat's what's on my n4, my jolla isn't answering ssh (and I don't know where it is)22:33
fzki think i missed some repo22:33
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fzkah, i probably must jinx it22:34
fzknot very used to rpm packaging and repos formats :-)22:37
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plays2Anyone in here have experience building sailfish from a .ks file? I've never worked with sailfish before but i'd like to start. I have the kickstart file for Hammerhead and would like to compile an image. Ive been following this guide : and can't seem to get the bootstrap area setup correctly. when I run the command i get an error like this:
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fzkplays2: exactly what im doing atm23:00
plays2haa awesome. have you gotten the bootstrap area set up?23:01
fzkat first line you need to set target arch23:01
fzk--arch=armv7hl or your corresponding arch23:01
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fzklets see if it boots up23:57
fzkyup, latest sailfish seems to work so far23:58
plays2hahaa neat. could you upload it to zippyshare or something and let me give it a try?23:59
fzkfor n9?23:59
fzki first want to know that the ui etc works23:59
fzkits loading a lot now23:59

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