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pp | it's not really even the income taxes, it's the 24-25% VAT that kills you :-) | 05:03 |
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suosaaski | income tax is usually higher or as high as the VAT, at least in Finland. | 05:09 |
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jake9xx | suosaaski: true, but if you run positive cashflow you can take 50k from the profit annually | 07:17 |
jake9xx | suosaaski: in company mode, that is | 07:18 |
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coderus | is there any examples for accelerometer "shaking" event? | 07:27 |
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jake9xx | lbt: ^ | 07:30 |
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coderus | or at least replacement for QtMobility TapSensor? | 07:32 |
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coderus | oh, TapSensor seems to be there... | 07:33 |
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coderus | and SensorGesture should be able to detect shaking. Will try it soon :) | 07:40 |
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TheBootroo_work | iekku: hi ! | 08:01 |
TheBootroo_work | When will we finally have more than an empty shell on the dashboard websiet ? | 08:02 |
TheBootroo_work | at least download count, reviews and likes count with real values | 08:02 |
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TheBootroo_work | because opening Store almost every day to check my 4 apps is annoying, and as i plan to publish 4 other apps, it's gonna get more more and more annoying | 08:03 |
SK_work | TheBootroo_work: +1 | 08:03 |
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TheBootroo_work | shouldn't be so complicated to do ? what language is this ? PHP ? Java ? i can help if you want | 08:04 |
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TheBootroo_work | or at least a web interface for the store, that we can browse on a p | 08:05 |
TheBootroo_work | *PC | 08:05 |
iekku | TheBootroo_work, ahoy | 08:07 |
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iekku | TheBootroo_work, i hope soon. but we are currently really limited with work effort we can put to harbour. it's not a good experience for developers, so it's high prio in my list | 08:08 |
TheBootroo_work | iekku: can we help in any way ? | 08:09 |
TheBootroo_work | do you plan to open source at least the front end ? | 08:09 |
TheBootroo_work | there are a LOT of talented devs out there with some free time, that could help | 08:09 |
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iekku | good question actually! i need to talk with our service guys | 08:09 |
TheBootroo_work | thx, that would be nice | 08:09 |
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SK_work | iekku: o/ | 08:11 |
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TheBootroo_work | iekku: i'm asking for that because the reccurent issue is : @work i don't have much gsm signal, i can barely use phone calls, so surfing on 3G is utopic, and we don't have wifi in office, so i can't use the store client during the days because app on jolla is unusable without network, so if at least i could use it on pc, or dashboard had real data, that would help | 08:12 |
coderus | hah, SensorGesture.availableGestures is empty! | 08:13 |
iekku | TheBootroo_work, i pinged guys, let's see | 08:13 |
TheBootroo_work | cool | 08:13 |
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iekku | TheBootroo_work, might take some time to set things if we are about to open it | 08:13 |
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chem|st | Aard: please, would you mind to elaborate on the future partitioning and mounting? | 08:14 |
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TheBootroo_work | iekku: i was wondering : as Jolla Store app is a QML app, that means it uses some kind of REST api to get list of apps, or reviews and other metadata, some maybe we could simply request on this api while we still don't have ui for it | 08:15 |
TheBootroo_work | an url with 2 or 3 GET params would be sufficient to me | 08:15 |
TheBootroo_work | i would build a basic QML wrapper around it that i could use on PC | 08:15 |
SK_work | TheBootroo_work: I think that there is a need of logging in | 08:16 |
SK_work | (OAuth2 with Jolla account) | 08:16 |
TheBootroo_work | SK_work: login for Read only use ? i don't mean being able to post review or vote, just see basic data | 08:17 |
TheBootroo_work | not sure login would be needed for that | 08:17 |
SK_work | TheBootroo_work: don't know either | 08:17 |
Aard | chem|st: what's unclear still? | 08:17 |
TheBootroo_work | and even if needed, OAuth is not that hard to implement | 08:17 |
TheBootroo_work | i did it for Feedly without issue | 08:18 |
coderus | what ahppening with QtSensors? why it have no available gestures? | 08:20 |
lbt | coderus: I take it you know/can use the raw #include <QtSensors/QAccelerometer> ? You want a higher level API? | 08:25 |
chem|st | Aard: how do I get my 14GB of maps onto the device for example | 08:27 |
chem|st | why is android / needed as vfat subfolder of /home/nemo/ | 08:28 |
Aard | chem|st: officialy, right now you don't, and in the near future you don't. it's on our todo-list, but it'll take a while | 08:28 |
Aard | I said android sdcard, not android / | 08:28 |
chem|st | Aard: that is the same thing for me... semantics hit you in the face there... | 08:29 |
TheBootroo_work | how can i avoid that upgrade snapshot use all my memory | 08:30 |
Aard | chem|st: android apps have 3 areas where they can store data. app specific area, on the main filesystem. virtual sd-card, or real sd-card, if present. the move now is that the fake sd-card changes to fake-vfat, and is available under home | 08:30 |
TheBootroo_work | i have pretty no image/video/music on my device but disk usage is 10.3 of 13.7 GB | 08:30 |
chem|st | Aard: so /data/sdcard is getting fused to ~/ | 08:30 |
TheBootroo_work | i'm pretty sure snapshots are eating the space | 08:30 |
Aard | ~/android_data | 08:31 |
chem|st | ok | 08:31 |
Nicd- | TheBootroo_work: delete old backups? | 08:31 |
TheBootroo_work | Nicd-: where ? how ? | 08:31 |
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TheBootroo_work | (btw, i never do backups before upgrades) | 08:31 |
Nicd- | TheBootroo_work: settings -> system -> backup | 08:31 |
chem|st | where is the benefit from doing so? | 08:31 |
Aard | user finds his pictures? | 08:32 |
TheBootroo_work | omg, android storage is eating 7.8GB | 08:33 |
chem|st | TheBootroo_work: that is what I am on about atm! | 08:33 |
TheBootroo_work | well, in one word : Spotify | 08:34 |
TheBootroo_work | >.< | 08:34 |
TheBootroo_work | how didn't i see that before | 08:34 |
chem|st | Aard: if someone is using android as primary base for everything... despite the fact that they should use an android phone they are screwed with no-space-left-on-device | 08:35 |
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Aard | chem|st: same if you're using sailfish apps requiring lot's of data | 08:35 |
TheBootroo_work | chem|st: gimme SF apps for everything and i will be happy as hell to throw Alien from my device | 08:36 |
TheBootroo_work | but atm i can't live without Spotify at least | 08:36 |
SK_work | TheBootroo_work: you can write a spotify client isn't it ? | 08:37 |
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SK_work | IIRC there were many of them written for the N9 | 08:37 |
TheBootroo_work | and the CuteSpotify app on Warehouse is a shame | 08:37 |
TheBootroo_work | SK_work: i'm working on one, | 08:37 |
TheBootroo_work | but takes time | 08:37 |
SK_work | indeed | 08:37 |
TheBootroo_work | libspotify is hard | 08:37 |
chem|st | Aard: the problem was that I could not access the µSD from android, most heavy apps have settings for storage... | 08:37 |
TheBootroo_work | and crashes has hell | 08:37 |
TheBootroo_work | chem|st: i have a 64GB sdcard and most SF apps can't see it | 08:38 |
TheBootroo_work | even settings app doesn't count it in the disk usage diagramm | 08:38 |
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Aard | chem|st: the only thing changing for you is which directory you need to move to sd-card for what you're doing. we don't have an official support for sd-card in android apps for storing data (but neither do we have that for sailfish apps) | 08:38 |
TheBootroo_work | and i can't decide which filesystem is best for my SD card | 08:38 |
chem|st | TheBootroo_work: well, disk usage diagramm is / | 08:38 |
TheBootroo_work | 64GB class 12 | 08:38 |
TheBootroo_work | i want auto mount in jolla | 08:39 |
TheBootroo_work | without having to type CLI commands | 08:39 |
TheBootroo_work | i would like to use some linux FS, a ext4 but seems that Jolla phone won't automount it | 08:39 |
Aard | TheBootroo_work: it should | 08:39 |
TheBootroo_work | and most apps don't have switch in settings to use SD instead of mass memory | 08:40 |
TheBootroo_work | Aard: rly ? | 08:40 |
chem|st | Aard: so I need to fuse/vfat my btrfs/android/µSD to the new folder, you are moving all of it?! | 08:40 |
chem|st | TheBootroo_work: I have btrfs on if, works flawless | 08:40 |
TheBootroo_work | i can't use vfat on a 64 GB card with > 2GB files on it | 08:40 |
chem|st | *it* | 08:40 |
TheBootroo_work | chem|st: auto mounted | 08:40 |
chem|st | automounted | 08:41 |
Aard | chem|st: yes. your folder needs to be there _before_ alien starts up, and sets up the vfat mount for home | 08:41 |
TheBootroo_work | without having to tweak fstab by hand ? | 08:41 |
TheBootroo_work | well, will try brtfs then | 08:41 |
TheBootroo_work | since it's meant to be BetterFS than ext4 | 08:41 |
chem|st | Aard: so we are again at the mount-sd.sh is to late | 08:41 |
TheBootroo_work | chem|st: any particular option at format time for it to work better ? | 08:42 |
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TheBootroo_work | well after my SD card can be really used, i should be able to move and symlink the biggest folders on it | 08:42 |
chem|st | TheBootroo_work: I moved /data/sdcard to a btrfs/subfolder too, that one needs a trigger in mount-sd.sh | 08:42 |
TheBootroo_work | so that apps use it transparently | 08:43 |
chem|st | one sec | 08:43 |
chem|st | https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/ | 08:43 |
chem|st | but as Aard commented and we discuss currently, that won't work in the future | 08:44 |
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TheBootroo_work | chem|st: i don't need this trick i think | 08:47 |
TheBootroo_work | i only want the card ot be mounted by the phone, then i'll manually move some heavy files on it | 08:47 |
TheBootroo_work | and symlink the spotify cache so that i have more free space on my phone memory | 08:47 |
chem|st | I wanted to have it 100% clean without me taking care of how heavy android might be | 08:47 |
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chem|st | without files showing up in the mediaplayer or gallery | 08:49 |
TheBootroo_work | chem|st: for me android == Spotify client | 08:49 |
TheBootroo_work | so not a big deal | 08:49 |
TheBootroo_work | and as soon as my SF client is ready, bye bye alien | 08:49 |
chem|st | keep in mind that everything nemo sees will end up in your gallery/mediaplayer | 08:49 |
TheBootroo_work | chem|st: and that's exactly what i want | 08:49 |
TheBootroo_work | i want to put my music, pictures and videos on the card but still be able to see them with the gallery | 08:50 |
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TheBootroo_work | the rare android apps i'd like to use outside of spotify aren't on Yandex or Aptoide | 08:50 |
chem|st | yeah sure, but if any android cache holds thumbnails or icons you will see them too | 08:50 |
TheBootroo_work | so i simply can't install them | 08:50 |
TheBootroo_work | chem|st: no stuff like this | 08:51 |
TheBootroo_work | only binary cache encrypted files | 08:51 |
TheBootroo_work | kinda like git db objects | 08:51 |
TheBootroo_work | no risk it goes in the gallery | 08:51 |
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chem|st | just want to make you aware that usually hidden from nemo should stay hidden | 08:51 |
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Nicd- | btw, what's the point of having the phone search all paths for images? why can't it just search Pictures and Videos? | 08:51 |
Nicd- | I don't want any of my email attachments turning up in Gallery | 08:52 |
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chem|st | Nicd-: you are all alone... $people want everything show up | 08:52 |
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Nicd- | who are these people? I mean, now I have 15 google logos in my gallery just because they were attachments in emails | 08:53 |
kimmoli_sailing | so you did save them all? | 08:54 |
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chem|st | Aard: that sdcard stunt might give you exactly that... thumbnails and stuff in gallery and mediaplayer... | 08:54 |
chem|st | if maps have jpg tiles with calibration files you will have all tiles in the gallery^^ | 08:54 |
Nicd- | kimmoli_sailing: they appear if I happen to click on the attachment in the email to see what it is | 08:55 |
kimmoli_sailing | yes, clicking them downloads them... is it possible to disable folders which it scans? | 08:56 |
Nicd- | that is something I'd like to configure | 08:56 |
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Aard | chem|st: we're not indexing it yet, we're working on indexer rules. if maps behaves properly it marks the directory as "don't index it" | 09:30 |
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squidd | someone make me app or bash thingy that uploads stuff automatically to imgur and gives me the link to clipboard! | 11:37 |
squidd | ty | 11:37 |
Nicd- | I'm planning to, as a part of my next app | 11:37 |
Nicd- | but it's a long time away so it would be nice if someone implemented it in the meantime :P | 11:38 |
squidd | plz to do, I dont want to have to do it myself | 11:40 |
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coderus | lbt: well, i just thought it shoul dwork because exists. i only tried qml sensors. none of TapSensor and SensorGestures working | 12:32 |
lbt | ok - I only played in c++ | 12:33 |
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adrutz | how to register as early adopter? | 12:43 |
cos- | hmm.. any comments on this? http://www.jollausers.com/2014/05/want-a-snappier-jolla-you-have-one-line-of-command-to-enter/ | 12:43 |
Stskeeps | cos-: we opted for a different approach, but it's still interesting | 12:43 |
Nicd- | adrutz: /msg sledges with your email and list of devices | 12:43 |
adrutz | thank you! | 12:44 |
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Sail0r | cos-: was longtime ago mentioned by Stskeeps | 12:44 |
Sail0r | :) | 12:44 |
cos- | is there any good reason _not_ to enable performance mode? | 12:46 |
SK_work | cos-: battery usage | 12:47 |
SK_work | ? | 12:47 |
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TheBootroo_work | Stskeeps: which is ? | 12:47 |
cos- | SK_work: the blogger says it didn't affect battery usage too much. and i could compromise some for performance. | 12:49 |
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gexc_ | is this performance tweak still needed if qt5.2 is used? | 12:56 |
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coderus | lbt: so, in c++ TapSensor or Shake gesture working? i can't try it now, just asking for future :) | 13:56 |
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coderus | cos-: heat | 13:56 |
coderus | it will be very heat :) | 13:56 |
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sledges | Nicd-: thanks for redirects! | 14:03 |
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Nicd- | sledges: np :) | 14:30 |
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flux | has someone tried how hot it gets if you go into performance loop & infinite loop in your pocket?-) | 14:31 |
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sledges | my jolla once had two processes >40% CPU each, then GPS+3G and google maps live navigation with traffic data, also charging in-car, it felt like hot potato :D works fine to-date | 14:45 |
sledges | (don'ŧ do this at home :P) | 14:46 |
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tango_ | funny, can't send to channel from the mobile client | 16:35 |
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Stskeeps | good evening | 17:25 |
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ballock | Good evening, Stskeeps! How's your day? | 17:40 |
Stskeeps | i'm watching a good movie with friends and having icecream in 24 C in helsinki.. | 17:41 |
Stskeeps | all very unusual things for me to do | 17:41 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:41 |
faenil | 24C? ffs, that's hotter than here in Italy | 17:41 |
Stskeeps | yeah, it's shocking to me too.. | 17:42 |
Nicd- | it was 29°C yesterday | 17:42 |
ballock | I've got the same, no movies, though. | 17:42 |
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ballock | So, where's the good movie (link?) | 17:45 |
Stskeeps | well, "Her", imdb 8.2 | 17:45 |
Stskeeps | it's a bit unusual but interesting from a technological pov | 17:45 |
* w00t is dying from the heat | 17:49 | |
tbr | the harbour is not far from jollahq, just jump in. that's cold. | 17:49 |
Stskeeps | it's surprisingily close by this apartment | 17:50 |
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Stskeeps | tbr: hey, i'm in tampere tomorrow, would you perhaps be up for a coffee at some point afternoon-ish in center? | 17:50 |
tbr | absofunkinglutely-ish! | 17:50 |
Stskeeps | okiedokie | 17:50 |
javispedro | meh, global warming | 17:51 |
tbr | I'm flexible with my time. I'll be mostly bitching at debian packaging tomorrow, so might even relocate to a park at some point to keep me calm. | 17:51 |
Stskeeps | nod | 17:52 |
Stskeeps | debian packaging is about as fun as rpm packaging when it goes wrong | 17:53 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:53 |
tbr | yeah | 17:54 |
tbr | hopefully it's just a couple rebuild and test cycles | 17:54 |
Stskeeps | i hope it's colder up north.. | 17:54 |
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tbr | the temperature thingy on the balcony claims 20.4°C | 17:55 |
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Anz_ | hi, any tips on: how can i use an available maliit .xml vkb layout to make .qml file for Sailfish? | 18:16 |
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coderus | just found gconf /desktop/jolla/specials. i'm happy now :) | 18:21 |
coderus | Anz_: manually only :) | 18:22 |
coderus | afaik ;) | 18:22 |
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Stskeeps | coderus: specials? | 18:22 |
walokra | Her was a good but strange movie | 18:22 |
walokra | I wish that my Jolla would talk to me like that :) | 18:23 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 18:24 |
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coderus | Stskeeps: this group for handling dialer and launching desktop files. like *#*#310#*#* ;) | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | coderus: ah, right | 18:25 |
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coderus | added too much of secrets :D | 18:27 |
Stskeeps | gconf keys are probably the worst secrets in the world | 18:27 |
Stskeeps | as the schema will talk about it | 18:27 |
coderus | well, you catually know what i'm talking about ;) | 18:27 |
coderus | actually* | 18:28 |
Stskeeps | even in symbian people found field test displays in rom images.. | 18:28 |
Stskeeps | but i guess you know a lot about that | 18:28 |
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coderus | yeah, symbian :) | 18:28 |
coderus | i'd like to have field test on jolla | 18:28 |
coderus | andd manually switching between cells | 18:28 |
Stskeeps | i don't think we have that | 18:28 |
tbr | those times are long gone I fear | 18:29 |
coderus | just my dreams, nevermind :) | 18:29 |
Stskeeps | as our entry point to modem is RIL in practice | 18:29 |
tbr | probably would need a new modem fw and RIL | 18:29 |
tbr | or at the very least secret RIL incantations | 18:29 |
Anz_ | coderus: thanks. no problem, ready to copy manually :D And regarding the language code.. is there some sort of list mentioning standard codes.. does it require regional -suffix. Also any documentation to read on? | 18:30 |
Stskeeps | i guess it was easier with symbian as the OS was practically running on the baseband | 18:31 |
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coderus | Stskeeps: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/wildducks/index.php?title=Wild_ducks_project/Symbian | 18:33 |
coderus | Anz_: sorry i dodnt understood your question | 18:33 |
Stskeeps | coderus: i never understood that project.. :P | 18:33 |
coderus | nostalgy :D | 18:34 |
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Anz_ | all i understand is: the file name has to be xx.qml & xx.conf and a string "language=xx" inside the conf file. where xx is the language code (ee, de, es fr etc). i'm not sure of my languagr code. some language codes are of the format xx_yy.xml. where yy is the country code. | 18:39 |
javispedro | the current ofono version in jolla is "ofono-1.14+git13-1.5.1" -- what's the 1.5.1 part? | 18:40 |
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javispedro | and does it match with nemomobile-packages/ofono tag "1.14+git13" | 18:40 |
javispedro | ? | 18:40 |
VDVsx | from the builds, can be ignored | 18:41 |
javispedro | aha, thanks | 18:41 |
Stskeeps | javispedro: 1, checkin count, rebuild | 18:41 |
coderus | Anz_: you can probably find in in web | 18:42 |
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Stskeeps | javispedro: 1.14+git13 being the important part | 18:43 |
javispedro | yeah, so it matches what's on git then | 18:43 |
javispedro | want to see if I can get ofono's AT emulator working | 18:44 |
Stskeeps | DUN? | 18:44 |
javispedro | yep | 18:44 |
javispedro | (yes I know about PAN) | 18:45 |
Stskeeps | nod | 18:45 |
javispedro | still have some devices that won't work well with PAN | 18:45 |
javispedro | *cough* N810 | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | point | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | i have a hunch there's a AT thingiemabob somewhere.. | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | hang on | 18:46 |
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javispedro | well, for all I know, the only thing missing for DUN support is https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720 | 18:47 |
Merbot` | Nemo bug 720 in .Other "Ofono is not configured with Bluez4 support" [Enhancement,New] | 18:47 |
DevBot | Bug 720: enhancement, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Ofono is not configured with Bluez4 support | 18:47 |
DevBot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720 normal, Low, ---, jvihrial, NEW, Application output window contains non-useful urls | 18:47 |
Merbot` | Mer bug 720 in QtCreator Mer Plugin "Application output window contains non-useful urls" [Normal,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720 | 18:47 |
DevBot | Bug 720: normal, Low, ---, jvihrial, NEW, Application output window contains non-useful urls | 18:47 |
Stskeeps | O_o | 18:48 |
javispedro | ops. | 18:48 |
w00t | lol | 18:48 |
sledges | :D | 18:48 |
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javispedro | Clearly Dev_Bot has some infinite recursion prevention system, as it didn't show the URL the second time around | 18:49 |
javispedro | DevTeamThingsOfEverything | 18:50 |
javispedro | *Thinks :P | 18:50 |
walokra | MerBot vs. DevBot. Fight! | 18:50 |
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RobertMe | Hi, for my app I would like to use the volume buttons to control the app, I've gotten the part of acquiring the resource set for the buttons working, but I would need to release and reacquire those when the app becomes active and gets pushed to the background again, how would I be able to do this? (in C++) | 18:52 |
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RobertMe | I've installed the Qt object as eventFilter and tried to detect these switches by detecting the QEvent::WindowDeactivate and QEvent::WindowActivate event types, but those don't seem to be send | 18:53 |
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javispedro | hm, you didn't need to take care of that in meego times | 18:54 |
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Stskeeps | javispedro: i can't find the log but long story short one of the /dev/smd* speaks AT | 18:56 |
javispedro | that's interesting because it would be the real AT then | 18:56 |
javispedro | er.. the real modem I mean. | 18:56 |
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Stskeeps | well, real modem speaks QMI | 19:00 |
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Stskeeps | javispedro: smd7 | 19:03 |
Stskeeps | if it breaks you get to keep both pieces | 19:04 |
Stskeeps | javispedro: cat /dev/smd7 & echo -e 'AT\r' > /dev/smd7 | 19:07 |
javispedro | (I was building minicom =) )) | 19:07 |
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Stskeeps | hehe | 19:08 |
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javispedro | ah, the all knowing qualcomm modem even knows about the battery state | 19:11 |
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Stskeeps | that's .. frightening | 19:12 |
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javispedro | should have built socat instead of minicom | 19:17 |
Stskeeps | socat is awesome | 19:17 |
Stskeeps | difficult as hell to get right, but awesome | 19:17 |
Stskeeps | javispedro: did you know you can do screen /dev/ttyFOO 115200 btw? | 19:17 |
javispedro | not :) | 19:18 |
Stskeeps | ok, small circus trick that comes in handy at times | 19:18 |
javispedro | but now I just want to redirect it to PC to avoid having to build ppp on sailfish | 19:18 |
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Stskeeps | nod | 19:18 |
javispedro | uh | 19:19 |
Stskeeps | mm? | 19:19 |
javispedro | note stock udev rules allow access to most smd[0-9] files by nemo user | 19:20 |
Stskeeps | i'll make a note of that.. | 19:20 |
Stskeeps | Aard: ^ | 19:20 |
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Stskeeps | kinda wonder why | 19:20 |
javispedro | actually bluetooth gid | 19:20 |
Stskeeps | ah | 19:20 |
Stskeeps | how was it again, mobile phones are like sausages, you really don't want to see how they're made.. | 19:21 |
javispedro | bluetooth gid actually makes me think exporting this device via bt is how android does it =) | 19:21 |
javispedro | so that inspires some confidence | 19:21 |
Aard | Stskeeps: some funny ancient mer leftover? :) | 19:21 |
Stskeeps | perhaps | 19:21 |
Stskeeps | Aard: naah | 19:21 |
Stskeeps | probably a rash decision on my part in the droid-* stuff | 19:22 |
Stskeeps | sledges: can you make a bug for us to sort this out? | 19:22 |
Stskeeps | javispedro: grep smd7 /*rc | 19:22 |
javispedro | /ueventd.qcom.rc sets smd7 to bluetooth:bluetooth | 19:22 |
Aard | keep your skin problems out of your work | 19:22 |
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javispedro | (and 0660) | 19:23 |
RobertMe | would anyone be able to help me regarding my question in detecting the switch from the foreground to the background and the other way around? I've also found the applicationStateChanged signal on QGuiApplication, but this doesn't seem to be available yet in Sailfish' Qt version | 19:23 |
Stskeeps | RobertMe: maybe it'd come through silica? | 19:24 |
Nightmare__ | RobertMe: did you try to dedect it with an event in your qml file and call a c++ slot? | 19:24 |
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RobertMe | Nightmare__: that might be possible, but that would mean I'd have to expose the object to QML | 19:25 |
RobertMe | Stskeeps: you mean by detecting it using QML? (which would be Qt.application.active IIRC), but I'd like to avoid that, if it's possible in a pure C++ manner | 19:25 |
Stskeeps | RobertMe: else i would assume it'd come through qpa or whichever | 19:25 |
* sledges reads backlog | 19:27 | |
javispedro | Stskeeps: err... also missed this "important" bit: service bt-dun /system/bin/dun-server /dev/smd7 /dev/rfcomm0 | 19:32 |
javispedro | so yeah :) | 19:32 |
sledges | which device is it javispedro ? | 19:32 |
javispedro | exactly as it says on the tin :) | 19:32 |
javispedro | sledges: you mean device node for ..? | 19:33 |
sledges | hw phone i mean :) | 19:33 |
javispedro | /dev/smd7 | 19:33 |
javispedro | though it seems to be what they exposed to BT | 19:33 |
* sledges sigh | 19:33 | |
javispedro | so I guess it should be reasonably safe | 19:33 |
sledges | is it jolla phone or n4 | 19:33 |
javispedro | jolla | 19:34 |
sledges | thanks | 19:34 |
Stskeeps | jolla phone, but we have problem on dhd in general | 19:34 |
javispedro | dial home device? | 19:34 |
javispedro | too much stargate.. | 19:34 |
Stskeeps | droid-hal-device | 19:34 |
javispedro | well, gotta go now, will mention on whether it works but I think it will (I already got it to speak ppp 'hello') | 19:36 |
RobertMe | for future reference, if someone reads the logs, I can get it going by installing the eventFilter, check if it's type QEvent::ApplicationStateChange and then cast the event to QApplicationStateChangeEvent and read it's applicationState() | 19:36 |
javispedro | ty Stskeeps | 19:36 |
Stskeeps | javispedro: cya | 19:36 |
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Acce | what does devel-su -p do exactly? | 20:21 |
Acce | or is there man page or whatever for devel-su | 20:22 |
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zoldyck | we only know about devel-su that the source is not published yet and it's around 150 lines | 20:25 |
zoldyck | as was said on the mailing list :) | 20:25 |
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tigeli | Acce: it will give you "privileged" rights | 20:28 |
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Acce | tigeli: like the invoker? | 20:30 |
tigeli | yeah | 20:31 |
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Acce | ok | 20:32 |
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Acce | any ideas how I could let user type their password via qprocess when using "devel-su -c"? | 20:33 |
Stskeeps | Acce: what on earth are you doing.. | 20:33 |
Turski | sounds like really bad idea | 20:33 |
Acce | Stskeeps: just trying to give users of ShellEx some possibility to run commands as root without sudo | 20:35 |
Acce | so whether it's bad or not is up to the user | 20:35 |
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Acce | well.. guess it's better to leave it to sudo then | 20:50 |
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