Friday, 2014-05-23

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uvatvmwTo all the Sailors here: Thank you for everything you're doing. I don't think its being said enough: Thank you. I wouldn't go so far as to tell you to ignore the poisonous thread, but I'd definitely ask you to remember that there are a large number of non-vocal supporters happy with you.02:21
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Nicd-uvatvmw: +105:09
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jake9xxuvatvmw: Nicd- (plus others) tnx.06:07
jake9xxuvatvmw: no , but the build tool is non-jolla specific (to some extent) to make such thing fly you'd need to tweak that quite a bit but -- good news is that everything is available in repos etc..06:09
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matrixxcan someone tell which info the sdk installer uses on windows to find out if virtualbox is installed or not?06:48
matrixxI tried manually adding it to the path, rebooted, but no help, it doesn't find it :(06:48
matrixxI also tried to run installer while virtualbox was running, but it still didn't recognize it's installed06:50
Stskeeps32 or 64 bit?06:50
Stskeepsjake9xx: anything you can recognise?06:50
matrixxStskeeps: this is on win8, I know it's not fully tested, but I guess there could still be some pointers for me06:51
matrixxand even more weird is that my other laptop also having 64-bit win8 did not have any problems detecting06:52
matrixxmysterious are these windows's06:52
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Armadillogood morning07:02
Stskeepsgood morning Armadillo07:02
Armadilloist there any basic approach for escaping sql special characters for local storage queries?07:03
Nicd-use prepared queries07:03
Nicd-like this:
Armadillothanks :)07:05
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jake9xxmatrixx: it uses the VBox's registry settings07:12
matrixxjake9xx: anything specifig I should look for from registry?07:13
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jake9xxyes, hold on a sec07:16
jake9xxok, the key is:07:17
jake9xxand inside that the token you're looking is InstallDir07:18
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matrixxjake9xx: it's there, set07:20
jake9xxok.. hmm07:21
jake9xxlet me think about this after I throw my kids to backyard07:21
matrixxjake9xx: no hurry, I have the installation on my other laptop which I can use this weekend if this doesn't solve :)07:22
matrixxwe are having the Tuska Camp, where we make software for Tuska Festival and I got the honer to do the sailfish version ;)07:23
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jake9xxmatrixx: ok ,that gives good motivator to help you :) (metal fan)07:43
jake9xxmatrixx: ok, so which win8 do you have?07:44
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jake9xxdisclaimer: I don't have any deep knowledge of win8. Tried it once as dualboot but that killed my win7 partition from my asus although installer said "all your previous stuff stays intact"07:46
matrixxjake9xx: I don't like this either, but company laptop and haven't had time to install our official Tubuntu distro yet ;)07:46
matrixxjake9xx: it's 64bit win 8.107:47
matrixxactually I pretty much hate win8, had only negative experiences with it07:47
jake9xxTubuntu? ok.. so. You have VirtualBox installed right?07:47
matrixxyeah :)07:47
jake9xxyou can start 'Virtualbox' ui from start menu07:47
jake9xx(does it have any..?)07:48
matrixxalready have it running :)07:48
jake9xxok, shut it down07:48
matrixxheh, ok07:48
jake9xxthen open 'environmental settings' or what ever that thing is07:48
Nicd-tubuntu? :d07:48
jake9xxI'd like pubuntu, peelo-ubuntu07:49
jake9xxok, now you make a SYSTEM wide environment variable called 'VBOX_INSTALL_PATH'07:49
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jake9xxto that you put the path where VBoxManage.exe is found, you can see it from command prompt07:49
jake9xxcd \07:49
jake9xxdir /s /b VirtualBox.exe07:49
matrixxNicd-: not the same tubuntu :D07:49
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matrixxjake9xx: ok, just a moment07:50
matrixxjake9xx: haha, there actually is one, but it's called VBOX_MSI_INSTALL_PATH07:51
matrixxmaybe that's the issue07:51
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jake9xxis that using the same path for VBoxManage.exe ?07:52
matrixxthey are all in the same dir07:53
matrixxhehey, now it works :)07:53
matrixxjake9xx: thanks!07:53
matrixxhmm, might be that this is a difference between win8 and win8.1, that the env var name has changed07:54
matrixxbecause I had win8.0 on my other laptop which installed fine07:54
matrixxI can actually check that, I have my other laptop with me as well07:55
jake9xxmatrixx: thanks. I'll put this into our Queue for Win8.107:56
matrixxjake9xx: great if I could be as help :)07:56
jake9xxmatrixx: you sure would. If I arrive at Tuska, how can I find you ? ;)07:56
jake9xxmatrixx: there's a chance for friday. I'll be racing at Alastaro on sat and sun though07:57
matrixxjake9xx: we don't probably have our Tieto stand there, but I'm probably in the VIP beer tent :D07:57
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matrixxjake9xx: I also might have my "Tieto Lisää Tuskaa" t-shirt on, easy to spot ;)07:58
jake9xxis it black?07:59
matrixxofc ;)08:00
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jake9xxthere's good stuff on friday, might as well come08:03
jake9xxunless we cannot set up the car for saturdayt08:03
jake9xxbut - another story. So, all good onw?08:04
matrixxjake9xx: all good, with quick googling I found out that it's oracle who chanced the env var name, starting from version 4.3.1208:04
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matrixxjake9xx: so it's a problem now for all new installations :/08:05
jake9xxok. darn. we'll bundle that in asap08:05
matrixxthese are the reasons why it's great to have agile company :)08:06
jake9xxmatrixx: c'mon. shouldn't we have a change process, senior change process manager, and head of change processes who ultimately reads emails (from his team) every thursday. Then we'd have a release process manager, error process manager and alike08:07
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matrixxhaha :D08:07
jake9xxoneliner in installer script -> 3wk's of work for 30 people. Yeah!08:07
matrixxofc :D08:07
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SK_workhi guys :)08:18
SK_workreading backlog from 9:5908:19
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SK_workjake9xx: so, is there a release at some point ?08:19
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jake9xxSDK ?08:19
SK_workjake9xx: yep08:19
jake9xxyes, after u7 release yes08:19
SK_workjake9xx: and do you have news about harbour stats ?08:19
jake9xxwe're chained now to jolla release train08:19
SK_workjake9xx: cool :)08:19
SK_workjake9xx: this sounds awesome08:19
SK_workperfect :)08:19
jake9xxbouncing around behind it but holding tight08:19
jake9xxSK_work: that's the idea. Also we try to creeep out of Alpha badge but that needs big work..08:20
SK_workjake9xx: cool08:20
SK_workgood news from SDK front then08:21
SK_workthx <308:21
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jake9xxSK_work: for harbour, there are other dudes, I'm too busy to touch that topic too08:26
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SK_workjake9xx: np, don't blame you :)08:27
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ziggy42OOOH finally, I really really really want harbour stats :D08:38
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Waiteeoh man08:52
Waiteemitäkuuluu is crashing randomly :P08:53
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SK_workWaitee: mitäkuuluu  is huge08:56
SK_workit is quite likely to have bugs08:56
coderusyou mean crashing server?08:56
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Waiteeokay it goes like this:08:57
Waitee1: i notice there hasnt been any messages for an hour08:57
Waitee2: i disconnect and reconnect mitäkuuluu08:57
Waitee3: 150 new messages08:57
Waitee4: jolla blinking green light and black screen08:57
coderusi still have some problems in fast removing socket when connection destroyed/switched08:57
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TheBootroo_workjake9xx: hi !08:58
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TheBootroo_workwhat line should i add in /etc/hosts ? i did it yesterday on own PC, worked fine, i want to fo it too here at office08:58
coderus23:48 < jake9xx> add SailfishSDK to /etc/hosts in your host pc08:59
squiddWaitee: I have that too08:59
TheBootroo_workcoderus: thanks !!08:59
Waiteei know the connection dropping is a sailfish feature09:00
squiddbut that only seems to happen to me on wlan09:00
squiddon 3g I have no problems with mitakuuluu09:01
Waiteeim rarely on wlan with jolla09:01
squiddalways on wlan when I'm home09:01
TheBootroo_workcoderus: well, the trick didn't work at office09:03
coderusWaitee: so your problem is application doesnt respond after getting too much offline messages?09:03
TheBootroo_worki still can't deploy here09:03
coderusTheBootroo_work: same error or another?09:03
Waiteecoderus: apparently yea09:03
TheBootroo_workcoderus: Project ERROR: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.09:03
SK_workTheBootroo_work: can you SSH into your Mer virtual machine SDK ?09:04
TheBootroo_worki tried also the VM manage NAT dns resolver trick09:04
SK_workTheBootroo_work: you might be able to increase timeout09:04
TheBootroo_workSK_work: yeah i can login09:04
Waiteecould i write a script or something to automatically disconnect/reconnect once per hour or something?09:04
SK_workTheBootroo_work: IIRC in settings > Mer you can increase timeout09:04
SK_worktried ?09:04
TheBootroo_workSK_work: anyway, the SDK never worked at office09:04
TheBootroo_workSK_work: this param is ignored simply09:05
SK_workTheBootroo_work: anyway, you are not supposed to install SDK at office :P09:05
SK_workTheBootroo_work: :(09:05
TheBootroo_workSK_work: why not ?09:05
coderusWaitee: i can probably ignoge offline messages notifications and show only single notification "%n offline messages received"09:05
SK_workTheBootroo_work: hey, tried installing a linux box inside vbox and install sfsdk inside ?09:05
SK_work :D09:05
SK_workcoderus: could be better09:05
TheBootroo_workSK_work: i'm already on linux09:05
TheBootroo_worki never use windows09:05
SK_workTheBootroo_work: at work ?09:05
SK_workyou lucky09:05
SK_workTheBootroo_work: then linuxception please09:06
SK_workvbox on host linux09:06
TheBootroo_worklucky ? ubuntu 13.0409:06
SK_workthen vbox in client linux09:06
SK_workwith mer sdk09:06
SK_workTheBootroo_work: hey, Win7 here, 009:06
SK_work0 shell09:06
SK_work0 useful tools (grep / git)09:06
SK_work(well, there is cygwin so actually I'm not that sad)09:07
Nicd-ubuntu 14.04 here (at work)09:07
TheBootroo_workSK_work: IIRC, if you install git for windows, you get also grep, sed, find and a real terminal09:07
jake9xxTheBootroo_work: coderus tnx. I was out putting engine covers on my 928 - last night's debugging worked. She screams again :)09:08
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SK_workTheBootroo_work: I installed a nice cygwin instance09:08
jake9xxSK_work: if you run Windows , consider installing MobaXTerm. If gives you chance to run 'unix' inside Windows09:08
TheBootroo_workseems that Ubuntu + corporate proxy + MerSDK + Emulator = EPIC FAIL09:09
SK_workand mobaxterm that comes with ANOTHER cygwin instance09:09
SK_workand git that comes with YET ANOTHER cygwin instance09:09
jake9xxSK_work: no, mobaXterm has git plugin09:09
jake9xxsee here:09:09
SK_workjake9xx: yep but at first, I had 3 cygwin instances, now only 209:09
SK_workand 2 incompatibles ones09:09
jake9xxlose the std. cygwin. There's absolutely no need for it09:09
SK_workjake9xx: mobaxterm is fairly good, but sometimes it's a bit shit09:09
SK_workjake9xx: when you need python, the one shipped in mobaxterm is limited09:10
jake9xxSK_work: due to various reasons I don't do python much anymore ;)09:10
jake9xxbesides, on my Windows machine I do mostly only Android development09:10
SK_workjake9xx: why on windows ?09:11
TheBootroo_worki could deploy09:11
SK_workTheBootroo_work: you are lucky09:11
TheBootroo_workby turning off the NAT Dns Resolver trick in both VM, and simply adding the line in hosts file09:11
TheBootroo_workbut now, weird issue09:11
TheBootroo_worklemme explain :09:11
TheBootroo_worki have corporate HTTP proxy, with host/port, no password auth09:12
TheBootroo_workif i run the Qt code with GET request in it on the PC, it works, i get reply, if i try in Emulator i get no reply but also no error !09:12
TheBootroo_workweird O.o09:12
SK_workTheBootroo_work: :/09:13
SK_workssh into emulator and try curl some stuff ?09:13
SK_workat least it would help debugging09:13
TheBootroo_workSK_work: well, curl works09:14
TheBootroo_workif i pass proxy config, and if i don't, i got at least errors09:14
TheBootroo_workon my program, i got no reply and no error09:14
SK_workTheBootroo_work: you might need to configure the emulator proxy ?09:14
TheBootroo_workand whether i set proxy or not doesn't change anything09:15
SK_workTheBootroo_work: don't know how to do this though09:15
TheBootroo_worki have proxy settings in my Qt app09:15
SK_workand don't know if Qt recognizes proxies09:15
SK_workTheBootroo_work: ah :/09:15
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TheBootroo_worki set it manually09:15
TheBootroo_workbecause auto detect doesn't work anyway09:15
TheBootroo_workonce again, exact same code on PC give reply if proxy set, error if not set09:15
TheBootroo_worklogical, and expected result09:16
TheBootroo_work7 years of Qt dev, first time i see a QNetworkReply emitting no signal at all >;<09:16
TheBootroo_workbtw, same code works on device09:17
TheBootroo_workonly emulator fails09:17
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jake9xxSK_work: 1)it's my ASUS UX32VD 2)it's my most powerful machine with decent gfx adapter 3)it's my only "pc" at home09:20
Nc_small QML question: What is the earliest an app can push() a page onto the pagestack? am trying to do it on my initial page's onComplete(), which seems to be too early :(09:21
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jake9xxyes, there are linux trials to run on UX32VD but nothing that works like I want it to be. And I don't want to spend time on google for various linux tricks. I like to use stuff when I work.09:21
SK_workNc_: what do you get ?09:21
SK_workNc_: you can push pages without animations, if it's the case, there is no timing limit09:21
TheBootroo_workjake9xx: i have ASUS UX31A R4003C09:21
jake9xxNc_: when that page's componet.oncompleted has been fired09:22
TheBootroo_workwhat a beast !09:22
TheBootroo_workrocks the hell with ArchLinux09:22
jake9xxTheBootroo_work: ok ,might consider that. I swapped the drive to SSD and boosted memory banks to maximum with some fancy-ass kingston chips09:22
jake9xxI actually have one spare 70G partition for 'linux trials' but trust me, I cannot find time to do it09:23
jake9xxI might consult you in the future ;)09:23
Nc_SK_work, getting "Error: Cannot push while operation is in progress: push"09:23
Nc_but can try without animation :)09:23
TheBootroo_workjake9xx: IIRC UX32 as nvidia graphics09:23
TheBootroo_workjake9xx: mine is full Intel, that's why it works fine09:23
TheBootroo_workno GFX adapter issue09:23
jake9xxyes, that's one issue09:24
jake9xxthen there were something with bt or something. Don't recall09:24
TheBootroo_workjake9xx: maybe, i don't use BT on laptop anyway09:24
SK_workNc_: nope, you shouldn't push (even without animation) if the opêration push is in progress09:24
SK_workNc_: show some code09:24
jake9xxbut, gotta say. ASUS <309:24
Nc_show some code? Erhm, is pretty basic currently ... 2 sec09:25
SK_workNc_: basic code is still code :)09:25
Nc_in the main qml, am doing:   initialPage: Component { FirstPage {  } }09:26
Nc_in the FirstPage:09:26
Nc_pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("BulbListPage.qml"), { /*py: py*/})09:26
Nicd-Nc_: use a pastebin / gist09:26
Nc_hoped 4 lines was acceptable, but sure - will use pastebin in the future09:27
TheBootroo_workmy request having no reply sounds once again like a DNS resolving issue09:27
Nicd-Nc_: I was just anticipating there would be more coming :)09:27
Nicd-as there usually is09:27
Nc_:)  .. yeah, this is REALLY basic XD09:27
SK_workNicd-: use pastebin, or etc.09:27
TheBootroo_workNc_: actually you could have minified the code to 1 single line09:27
SK_workNc_: you need to watch the end of the FirstPage pushing09:28
Nc_so onComplete is before the page is actually pushed to the front :(09:28
SK_worklike onStatusChanged: if (status == PageStatus.Active) { push stuff }09:29
Nc_makes sense, yes09:29
Nc_Seems to work, cheers :)  (now to add code to keep it from looping between the 2 pages, but that's at least trivial)09:32
SK_workNc_: what do you mean09:32
SK_workwhat are you trying to do ?09:32
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SK_workNc_: maybe you are searching for pushAttached (that allows an attached page=09:33
ziggy42is there a way to add something to the emulator? I would like to have the store but ok that's must be impossible. However, it would be cool to have a terminal on it09:33
SK_workziggy42: ever tried sshing into it ?09:37
Nc_SK_work, it is looping, because when I leave the pushed page, the parent becomes active, and pushes the 2nd page immediately :)09:38
ziggy42SK_work: nope :D I should try...09:38
SK_workNc_: ah09:38
Nc_am working on forcing a settings-page on app-start, since the app has now way of having a sane state on start-up :)09:38
SK_workNc_: what are you trying to do ?09:38
SK_workNc_: then you shouldn't use initialPage09:39
SK_workor use it with condition09:39
SK_workpushing a second page on top of the first might not be the best idea09:39
SK_workstuff like this to push 2 different pages09:40
SK_workhere I push the login page if the user is not logged in09:40
SK_workfaenil: o/09:41
Nc_yeah, was pondering something similar, but as the 2nd page is also relevant during regular use (selecting which lightbulbs to work with), I prefer the experience of entering and leaving it stays the same no matter whether it is on app-start or during usage09:42
Nc_Eventually, might figure out a good way to have a semi-sane state on start-up, in which case I can make the initial push() optional09:42
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SK_workNc_: then you could still push it afterwards :)09:43
SK_workNc_: IMO, you should use push attached then09:44
SK_workand have an empty state page (in the first one) that says: hey, swipe right to access settings, nothing's configured09:44
SK_workNc_: what do you think ?09:44
Nc_Could work - will definitely try it out09:44
Nicd-SK_work: how do you keep the "panel" on the right side all the time in your app? do you just re-push it every time the page is changed?09:45
Nc_Should do another review of the iOS version - see how that behaves (even if I'm only peripherally following it)09:45
SK_workNicd-: read the code, it's a horrible trick :D09:45
SK_workwhat i do is: perform a clear of the stack (without animation), push the correct page (without animation), push the attached menu (without animation), move to the attached menu (without animation), and go back (with animation)09:46
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SK_workNc_: maybe you shouldn't, feel free to design something yourself,w ith sailfish components09:47
SK_workthey are different, have weakness and also strengths09:47
SK_workthe attached page is something you don't usuially find09:47
Nc_oh, SK_work, I'm definitely not following the iOS version particularly close XD  Am trying to do it 1) as simple as possible and 2) as "sailfish'ish" as I can figure out09:48
Nicd-SK_work: ok, thanks for the explanation09:48
SK_workNicd-: want to do the same ?09:48
SK_workNicd-: it's horrible, but works :)09:48
Nicd-wonder if there's a way to make a "carousel" of pages like flipping through images in the gallery09:48
SK_workNc_: mind telling what app are you working on ?09:49
SK_workNicd-: :D09:49
Nicd-SK_work: I don't know yet, I haven't planned my UI much09:49
SK_workNicd-: would say, easy with my trick09:49
Nicd-it would be nice to be able to flip through channel windows in an IRC client09:49
SK_work3 pages: when you enter in the next page relayout it without animation :D09:49
Nicd-in a carousel style09:49
Nc_is an unofficial LIFX app, using an unofficial python-api09:49
SK_workNicd-: better use the caroussel component from gallery then09:49
SK_workNc_: ie, SlideShowView09:50
SK_workNc_: LIFX ?09:50
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Nicd-SK_work: I'll note that down, thanks09:50
SK_workNc_: cute09:50
SK_workNc_: IMO a nice design is: main page (ie the one shown when app opened) shows a given bulb, while attached page show list of bulbs, with menus to add new bulbs and remove09:51
Nc_pretty close to how I did it09:51
SK_workif no bulb configured, use a to indicate that you should swipe right to add bubls09:51
Nc_main page shows basic controls, pull-down menu for selecting bulbs (and later group of bulbs)09:51
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SK_workNc_: no need for pulldown, use attached pages09:52
SK_work(cf email app, where inboxes are accessible from attached page too)09:52
Nc_cannot attach multiple pages, and there are multiple ways of selecting bulbs09:52
SK_workNc_: what kind of ways ?09:52
SK_workyou might want to select one bulb most of the time ?09:52
SK_workcan't the page of bulbs have more advanced ui, like checkboxes to define group ?09:52
Nc_individual bulbs (current), groups of bulbs (later)09:53
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SK_workNc_: honestly, for individual bulbs, go for an attached page09:54
Nc_might later add "scenes" of bulbs too ... but that depends on how these are stored (local or on the network)09:54
Nc_yeah, will review - need to figure out then, later, if people are more likely to go to the individual bulbs or groups, but that'll be trivial to change09:55
ziggy42I've never used SSH. I'm trying as written on the develop-faq page: "ssh -p 2223 nemo@localhost". I'm getting "The authenticity of host '[localhost]:2223 ([]:2223)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is blablabla. Are you sure u want to continue?"  is it normal? :D09:58
ziggy42Nicd: thanks09:59
Nicd-it means you have never connected to it before and it asks if you think it's trustworthy09:59
Nicd-you're supposed to verify it's the host you think it is by using the fingerprint but since you're connecting to localhost it doesn't matter09:59
ziggy42ok thank you :)10:05
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ziggy42Why if I install sailfish-browser in the emulator I don't get the icon?10:17
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WntI think it's a pretty strange decision to not allow Python applications on the Jolla appstore for only the reason that device still running update 1-3 would have couple of applications in the store that are broken10:26
SK_workWnt: well, it's all about user experience10:27
WntHow many users are still runnin those old updates? Do those users even have an interest in installing applications if they dont even bother to update their OS version to get more features to theri phone?10:27
SK_workand not allowuing pyton apps now don't mean not allowing ever10:28
Wntnow the highly guarded user experience means that users who want more applications need to resort to openrepos10:28
Wntand the developers who publish their applications there might even lose interest in to publishing their applications via harbour10:29
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ziggy42seems that all applications I install in the emulator come without icon. Is this normal?10:39
Wntziggy42: how do you install the applications? I remember that when deploying an application I was developing to the emulator or to the phone I had to choose deploy as install RPM package or something similar to get an icon10:44
ziggy42Wnt: yes, with mine applications the icon work. I'm installing some apps (browser and terminal) with "pkcon install app"10:47
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SK_workhi saber_11:22
saber_I want to know...11:23
saber_How to make a auto-start app in sailfish OS ?11:23
SK_worksaber_: what do you mean autostart ?11:23
SK_worka daemon ?11:23
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SK_worksaber_: what do you want to do ?*11:24
saber_it starts when the phone boot up11:24
saber_* when the system is loaded and ready11:25
saber_like *start-up program in windows11:25
SK_worksaber_: ah, so an application that actually shows something11:26
SK_workdo you want to write an app11:26
SK_workor just start some stock apps ?11:26
saber_write an app11:27
SK_worksaber_: what kind ?11:28
saber_some kinds of advertisement phone blocker11:28
SK_worksaber_: then I guess you want a daemon11:28
SK_workyou need to make systemd start it11:28
saber_Ops !11:28
saber_I think i know this11:29
saber_many system based application like input method, battery manager is loaded by this ?11:29
SK_worksaber_: this can help you11:29
saber_Thz !!!!11:29
SK_workit's the "init"11:29
SK_workit starts everything11:29
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SK_workcoderus use it to start mtakuuluu's daemon11:30
SK_workto receive messages11:30
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saber_another question lol11:32
saber_here is the chinese input method modified from Behold Japanese input method11:33
saber_Everything typing function works fine now but the copy function is missing11:34
SK_worksaber_: and ?11:34
saber_I cannot figure it why the default system copy & paste handler is missing in my keyboard lol\11:34
SK_worksaber_: I don't know either11:35
BeholdMyGloryThe input handler has to explicitly include a copy & paste QML item11:35
saber_Behold 0 v 011:35
SK_worksaber_: ask the dev11:36
SK_workwho modified this11:36
saber_include a copy & paste QML item ?11:36
SK_workthe code you sent ?11:36
saber_ <--- here is my modified version11:36
BeholdMyGlory This modification added copy & paste support to my Japanese input method11:36
saber_from Behold Japanese source11:37
saber_Thz So Much @Behold11:37
saber_i am a noob :(11:37
SK_worksaber_: and think about packaging it :)11:37
Nicd-hmm... looking at that repo, would it be possible to implement a custom keyboard layout for an app?11:37
SK_workNicd-: hum ... don't think so11:37
BeholdMyGlorysaber_: Are you arthurartoria on github? If you're the one behind that input method, also take a look at this change:
Nicd-SK_work: ok, have to do it in a different way11:38
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SK_workNicd-: what do you want to do ?11:38
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saber_Yes I am arthurartoria on github11:38
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saber_@Behold I just put all the handler.js into the .qml file  /  .  \11:39
Nicd-SK_work: in my IRC app I would like a tab key and a '/' key for example. but I'll probably add a custom row on top of the keyboard11:40
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saber_I am a noob11:40
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saber_Anthy is the database of japanese input method ?11:49
saber_it is .sqlite ??11:49
Nicd-that would be a great java annotation. @Behold private String foo;11:50
BeholdMyGloryAnthy is responsible for converting Japanese kana to kanji11:50
saber_I just curious11:50
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BeholdMyGloryI'm not sure how exactly it stores its data11:50
saber_are you japanese ?11:50
saber_this is so interesting :P11:51
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Armadillo1 hour from qa to pubslihed, nice guys! :D12:20
coderusSK_work: saber_: its systemd services12:21
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TMavicasaber_ here12:34
TMavicau contribute to quick im?12:34
TMavicasaber is artur..?12:36
Yanielthat's what he said ;)12:36
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saber_Here I am12:48
saber_@BeholdMyGlory Help me a lot thz him12:50
saber_@SK_work too :)12:50
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ArmadilloNicd- thanks, the prepared statements work very well. Do you know if there can be caused any side effects?12:56
Nicd-what kind of side effects?12:56
Armadillodon't know, maybe data inconsistency or something like that12:57
Nicd-why would there be?12:57
Nicd-that doesn't really have anything to do with prepared statements12:57
Nicd-I mean, you insert the same data anyway12:58
Armadillowell, anyway, thanks again ;)12:59
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Stskeepshello from helsinki airport13:22
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* Nc_ shivers uncomfortably13:25
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Nicd-Stskeeps: which one? ;)13:29
Stskeepswell, vantaa13:29
Stskeepsfinally going home13:29
Nicd-HEL is a nice airport13:30
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Stskeepssure beats lisbon airport..13:30
ln-SAS used to have this advertising campaign in turku and other places, saying "Why go through HEL?"13:31
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tbrStskeeps: have a pleasant flight! :)13:33
Stskeepstbr: thanks, looks like nice flying weather13:33
Nicd-yeah, have a good trip13:34
tbrthe weather is nice and the storms over central europe seem to have gone away too13:34
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rcgStskeeps, have a nice and good trip.13:54
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Stskeepswell, my plane isn't here13:55
Stskeepsso that kinda blows my plan of boarding so far ;)13:55
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SK_workStskeeps: late ?13:56
rcgaye, ic13:57
Stskeepswell, still within reason13:57
Stskeepsas in, we'd have to board and depart in 20 minutes, and offload people..13:57
Stskeepsso, possible, if you get a tiger to chase out the people from the plane..13:57
rcgwell, it'll come eventually13:57
Stskeepsby putting it through the rear door13:58
tbrstarts to be tight, but still possible13:58
tbrI thought it was a rabid badger? ;)13:58
Stskeepsthat's jyvaskyla airport13:58
rcghad a flight from jerez where the plane we were supposed to take landed about 5 minutes after the scheduled start time... so people getting off board, refueling, we getting on board etc. still to do and we still arrived as scheduled at the destination ;)13:59
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rcgstart time -> take off time13:59
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saber_How do you do debugging in writing the keyboard14:01
Stskeeps Helsinki Warsaw departure at 17:2014:01
StskeepsEstimated new departure time is: 23.05.2014 at 18:1514:01
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rcgget a beer then?14:03
Stskeepsi was thinking food14:03
Stskeepsbut the fun thing14:03
Stskeepsi received this on my e-mailt14:03
Stskeepsthe screens says absolutely nothing14:03
Nc_Stskeeps, from experience, screens in airports are ca the last thing to get updated with new schedule-details14:04
faenilwhen I'm at the railway station I use the mobile app to see the updated delays on trains instead looking at the screens in the station14:07
faenilinstead of*14:07
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Nc_hmm, there are no ways to blend a Rectangle into the background (translucent edges) ?14:15
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matrixxjake9xx: apparently the env var renaming is not the only issue with the newest version of virtualbox :/15:26
matrixxthe emulator does not start :(15:26
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kaltsimatrixx: if you set the old env variable in a cmd prompt and start qt creator from the cmd prompt, does it work? the env var is also used inside qt creator15:28
matrixxkaltsi: not sure if that's the issue anymore since the build machine starts fine15:29
kaltsiplease try, I'm fixing it based on observations15:29
matrixxkaltsi: I can try that15:29
kaltsiin my windows the path can be found from registry, others fall back to the env var.. dunno why15:30
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matrixxkaltsi: doesn't help.. the error I'm getting in the emulator is "SMBus base address unitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr"15:35
matrixxnot sure if it fixable by me15:35
kaltsithat's not an error.. it's supposed to be there15:36
matrixxbut it doesn't go forward15:36
kaltsiso the emulator sreen opens but you don't get a picture?15:36
kaltsior homescreen15:36
kaltsiok.. did it ever work for you?15:37
matrixxthis is a new install15:37
kaltsibut have you installed this SDK 1404 version successfully before?15:38
matrixxkaltsi: not on this laptop15:38
kaltsiit's probably an issue with the laptop's bioss.. the intel virtualization tech needs to be enabled15:38
matrixxkaltsi: oh, need to check that out15:39
kaltsiI had the same with my laptop and a couple of SDK users have run into this issue15:39
kaltsithe solution was to turn on the VT-x in bios.. let me check if I can find the exact details15:39
kaltsiuh I'm sure I wrote it down somewhere, but can't find it now :)15:41
kaltsithe has this entry15:42
kaltsiIf emulator fails to boot to user interface, the reason might be disabled virtualization technology settings in host computer's BIOS. By turning on virtualization technology settings from BIOS, the emulator should boot up to user interface.15:42
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kaltsimatrixx: the bios setting should help, and if not then it's some new problem I haven't seen yet15:51
tbrmhm, I think that laptop has a setting for it. As I run virtual machines on the same model with acceleration.15:53
kaltsiwhich laptop is it?15:55
tbrLenovo Yoga 2 Pro15:55
tbrIt has UEFI15:55
tbrI went through it once when I installed Linux and made sure to tick all the boxes15:55
tbrand VT-x is an important box for me to tick15:56
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matrixxkaltsi: that was it, now it worked16:01
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tortoisedocis it update time??17:16
tortoisedocfaenil thanks17:17
tortoisedocany news about qt 5.2 support in this next update?17:17
faenilnot happening in this update (otherwise it would be on that list I guess :D )17:18
faenilthere were some unseen difficulties it seems17:18
tortoisedochmm I see so there is not even development versions right?=17:19
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tortoisedocthanks Stskeeps17:28
tortoisedocStskeeps : I recall you mentioning overlays could come with qt 5.2....17:31
tortoisedocthis still the case?17:31
faenilwhat kind of overlays?17:32
tortoisedocfaenil : overlays / windows / popups / ...17:33
tortoisedoc(not video tho)17:33
faenilah ok17:33
tortoisedocsomething that I can pinch for an example on the lockscreen17:34
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tortoisedocbut I imagine that one is still far ahead in the road map as probably jolla wants to avoid abuse :)17:38
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tortoisedoccrappy windows crashing my firefox17:46
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coderuscan anoyone give me working video recorder example?18:39
coderusim getting [W 00:37:38] CameraBin error: "Internal data flow error."18:40
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Nc_trying to write a bit on my app, kids steal my phone to play it ... *grumble*18:55
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kimmolijake9xx: the hosts patch did not solve my issue of ":-1: error: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. The remote host closed the connection"19:56
jake9xxkimmoli: you can ssh to it from shell, right?19:57
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stephgquick noob question, building an rpm with the sdk that doesn't have a project?21:07
stephgrpmbuild or is there proper way?21:07
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kimmolii have done such things on the phone... (but afaik should be doable on sdk command-line)21:09
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stephgah someone did a howto for that on tjc, will have a hunt round there see if there's anything to glean21:12
stephgit was AL13N, who hasn't been in here in ages now that I think about it21:13
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stephglooks like it's rpmbuild, but is bed time21:28
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merlin1991stephg: mb2 build21:51
merlin1991just need a spec file in $currentworkdir/rpm/21:51
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saber_@Behold ?23:02
saber_I just update with the pasteButton Component23:02
saber_the copy and paste function just works fine23:03
saber_but the clear clipboard function is still missing lol23:03
saber_I just updated with this code for it23:06
saber_onPressAndHold: { Clipboard.text = ""; keyboard.expandedPaste = false }23:06
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