Thursday, 2014-05-29

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kimmoliärm. did i just imagine or not save my work... translations_xx.ts will be ripped out from xml comments <!-- --> when lupdate is run ??07:50
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kimmolicoderus: or someone - ping - what was that blog page with coding tips?08:28
faenilkimmoli, was it you the guy working on the speaker OH?08:31
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kimmolinot atm, i tried something08:33
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kimmolibut i made some bad component selections.. that needs extra isolated powersupply e.g. 2nd battery to work. used bluetooth to comms with phone. audio quality was - not quality08:35
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coderuskimmoli: wanna became an author?08:49
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kimmolicoderus: i only make bad code08:52
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kimmolibut i just figured out something for coveractions which could be useful.. .)09:07
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[deXter]w00t! I think I finally sorted out my usb0 / wifi conflict issue! :)09:22
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kimmolimur... pageStack doesnt want to play withme10:05
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stephgany bright ideas/is it worth me debugging my non-starting tweetian then?11:46
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situstephg: try to start it from fingerterm and check the logs ?11:55
stephgyeah so that's the thing situ, I can start it via fingerterm (and also via gdb) and it starts11:55
stephgbut as artemma said yest booster may be doing something funny with it11:55
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stephgonly thing I have in the journal is that it launched it11:56
stephgnothing else11:56
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situdid a process for tweetian actually start ?11:57
Stskeepsstephg: n4?11:58
stephgnope, jolla11:58
situI have been using it on N5. I haven't encountered any such problems yet.11:59
stephgI suspect if I reboot it may go away but that's not the point is it ;)11:59
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stephgsitu: doesn't look like it does launch12:00
stephgnemo      2142     1  0 May27 ?        00:00:00 invoker --type=silica-qt5 --single-instance harbour-tweetian12:01
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situso it's already running12:01
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specialstephg: situ: that process is not actually tweetian12:03
situspecial: right :)12:04
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stephgso someone tell me if I'm talking nonsense: if I kill that invoker everything should be happy on next start?12:11
specialwell, if the invoker is running and the actual process is not, that's a bug12:11
stephgand what probably happened is it crapped itself in some way yesterday that the invoker didn't notice?12:11
specialbut that wouldn't affect the single instance behavior, either.12:12
stephglet me see if the journal goes far enough back12:12
stephgboo beginning of the journal is only some 2 hours ago :/12:13
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marxistvegancoderus: so I am in a pickle...on sailfish whatsapp works well but now on meego side i need to re-register but it fails saying it is an old method, is there a way to hack the meego side with config stuff from the sailfish side?12:58
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coderusmarxistvegan: you can get password from mitakuuluu in .config/coderus/mitakuuluu2.conf13:13
marxistvegancoderus: and then in say persecute I can enter it into that?13:13
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coderusin .whatsapp/whatsapp.db13:22
coderususing sqlite313:22
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marxistvegancoderus: oh ok thanks I will try to work on that later today13:37
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pa4wdhI noticed that if i create a ComboBox with 7 menuItems the onClicked event is not executed when the menuItem is chosen, is that a bug or a feature ? :-)14:01
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jaloWhen I launch stocqt from SDK, I get white screen and message that OtQml.Models is not installed.14:06
jaloAny idea what should I install?14:07
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jaloI got it. If I deploy it as RPM Package, it works.14:31
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kaltsijalo: the RPM package contains package dependency information.. the other deploy method doesn't.14:39
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jaloYes. It is written in README file, too.14:42
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jaloI installed qt5-qtdeclarative-import-models214:43
jaloAnd now it runs with binaries too.14:44
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coderusits sad Sailfish doesnt show all installed applications with versions and doesnt check foor updates. it breaks linux mind...14:53
coderusand users can't check if latest version is installed14:54
ballockcoderus: ? what about rpm and pkcon?14:57
kaltsisounds sad, care to elaborate?14:57
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coderusballock: its not about me, its about regular users15:09
coderuskaltsi: what you mean?15:10
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MSameercoderus: he is asking about the problem with package management15:11
coderusjust implemented rpm -qa --queryformat '%{version}-%{release} packagename call in my application...15:11
coderusMSameer: kaltsi: harmattan have nice Applications window with versions, package information showing many useful information from package details, uninstall/upgrade buttons. Sailfish lost it.15:12
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MSameercoderus: that's easy to solve by a 3rd party app15:12
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coderusbut who will install that app if even harbour can't allow it to publish?15:14
coderusi'm really sad when i see how os losing good essential platform things15:15
coderusbut it seems to be "Jolla plan"15:15
MSameerafter bundling 49+ libraries with my app, I started to believe everything is possible :p15:15
coderusMSameer: of course i can fool Harbour QA and publish this app, but should i/15:16
MSameercoderus: I am sure it's possible to get it inside harbour15:16
MSameercoderus: you are not fooling QA. it's the way to go15:17
MSameerand no I am not happy about it and yes I understand the pain15:17
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coderusHarbour not accepting applications managing packages, repositories and so, not accepting at all. with any implementation.15:17
coderusthey rejecting app just after seeing "package management" "repositories" in descriptions :D15:18
MSameerI did not know that15:18
coderusi can make MLP app with nice cartoons managing your apps :D15:18
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SfietKonstantiniekku:  ^^^^15:21
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coderusSfietKonstantin: btw, patchmanager sources are open? i can contribute interested parts of it myself15:24
SfietKonstantincoderus: check my github15:24
SfietKonstantinor the TMO thread15:25
SfietKonstantinyes, it's opened15:25
coderusso, json is ausmt part?15:25
SfietKonstantincoderus: json ?, no, patchmanager part15:26
coderusokay, thanks15:26
SfietKonstantindon't know how to parse json from shell :D15:26
SfietKonstantincoderus: thinking about the rebot system ?15:26
SfietKonstantinrestart stuff ?15:26
SfietKonstantinbecuse you might prefer to use the category / specific category tag to identify the app15:27
coderusprocess_to_kill and kill_method15:27
SfietKonstantincoderus: please use systemctl instead15:27
coderussure, if possible15:27
SfietKonstantincoderus: or maybe a standard list of stuff15:27
SfietKonstantinlike telephony UI will kill voicecall-ui15:28
SfietKonstantinplease do an implementation, and I will review it15:28
MSameer15 downloads and not a single question about the app? either it's flawless or it's total crap and there is no way to tell :(15:28
coderusMSameer: what app?15:29
coderusSfietKonstantin: i'm not doing anything now, relax :)15:29
MSameercameraplus for sailfish15:29
kimmoli_sailingi think people are muted due that goldie lux avatar of yours ?15:35
kimmoli_sailingnext, download your app...15:36
* MSameer checks15:38
kimmoli_sailingnot working for me, cameraplus i mean...15:38
coderusMSameer: and now my jolla camera not working at all and i need to reboot device to make it working again15:39
kimmoli_sailingsays "problems with store"15:39
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MSameercoderus: well, I warned that it's a pre-alpha (but it should not affect jolla camera)15:39
kimmoli_sailingmy jolla camera works still15:39
MSameercoderus: but seems invoker does something15:39
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MSameercoderus: thank you for trying15:42
coderusMSameer: another try:
coderusand it started with no invoker15:45
MSameercoderus: it will not start15:45
iekkucoderus, oh?15:45
MSameerinvoker seems to do something with my LD_LIBRARY_PATH15:45
MSameercoderus: and I have no idea how i missed testing with invoker15:45
MSameerthp: do you know why doing setenv("LD_LIBRARY_PATH", ...) does not work with invoker?15:46
coderusMSameer: i always adding invoker launch options with my qtc parameters :)15:46
coderusiekku: ah?15:47
specialMSameer: setgid might break that.15:47
specialnot sure15:47
iekkucoderus, about harbour15:47
MSameerspecial: any workaround ? :/15:48
coderusiekku: just tell, if you have something to say :)15:48
specialMSameer: do you absolutely require LD_LIBRARY_PATH?15:48
coderusMSameer: afaik thp told about using rpath15:48
specialrpath would be a better solution, yes15:48
MSameerI can't rebuild everything with rpath :'(15:48
iekkucoderus, i will check your case15:48
MSameermy main app has rpath15:48
MSameerbut it does dlopen() other stuff15:49
MSameerso I need to set ld_library_path for them15:49
specialonly for dlopen?15:49
specialor do you need it for linked dependencies as well15:49
MSameerI dlopen() stuff which link against other libraries15:49
specialwould setenv() in your main or something similar do the trick?15:49
MSameerso main app with rpath -> dlopen a library without rpath15:50
MSameerspecial: I do setenv() already15:50
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coderusiekku: well, actually we're not tried to publish anything to harbour about forst rejections of prm and repos stuff in past, and after mystic rejections of normal app caused by app name similar with "rpm" or something. i can't remember exact situation right now, it was in mailing lists15:50
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coderusbut all these apps are odd, because nobody will install and use it, it should be build in os, its essential things all other os'es have, but not sailfish :D15:52
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iekkucoderus was it after or before we got setting to allow 3rd party installations?15:53
iekkuJonni might know reasoning bit better15:54
coderusiekku: before15:54
coderusprobably if next meeting can bring software sources problem i can act15:56
faenilcoderus, did you write it in the piratepad agenda?15:56
coderusfaenil: no15:56
iekkucoderus, please add it to agenda?15:56
thpMSameer: possibly because the LD_LIBRARY_PATH parameter is only used at the beginning of the process loading and with invoker, the process (=booster process) has already started, so you can't "go back in time" so to speak15:56
coderusi dint visited any of meetings and have no iddea how it happening :D15:56
faenilyou write your proposed topics there, along with your name15:57
iekkucoderus, people propose topics to agenda, have short description, then we have conversation15:57
locusffaenil: should we raise the custom images issue there, for discussion?15:57
iekkucoderus, if you check full meeting log you get idea easily15:58
faenillocusf, nah, I don't think it would help, but if you have something to discuss feel free to add it15:58
locusffaenil: ok15:58
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coderusfaenil: iekku added. check please if i did it okay?16:08
faenilcoderus, yes it's ok ;) maybe add in the topic that you added a longer description at the bottom of the page16:09
coderusfaenil: edited16:10
faenilit's ok ;)16:10
faenilthank you :)16:11
coderusso, when next meeting?16:11
faenilread the page :P16:12
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coderusok i''ll do16:12
MSameerthp: mmm16:14
MSameerthp: the results are a bit confusing but I guess I have a workaround16:14
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faenilphdeswer, any news? :D16:20
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phdeswerfaenil: well some progress but it is a lot harder than expected16:23
faenilI expect at least a post about it :P16:23
ln-is it normal that an SDL2 application works nicely in the emulator, but all i get is a black screen on the actual phone? (event handling seems to work though)16:23
Stskeepshmm, thp might know16:24
phdeswerfaenil: tbr has already take care of that ;)16:24
faenilcool :)16:24
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thpln-: do you ues GL ES 1.1 or GL ES 2.0?16:28
thpln-: if you are using GL ES 1.1, you have to request an ES 1.1 context from SDL16:29
thpln-: SDL_GL_SetAttribute(SDL_GL_CONTEXT_MAJOR_VERSION, 1); and SDL_GL_SetAttribute(SDL_GL_CONTEXT_MINOR_VERSION, 1);16:30
thpln-: see also
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thpit might work on the emulator, because iirc mesa is used there, and GLES1 might be implemented on top of GLES2, so even with a GLES2 context, GLES1 drawing works16:31
ln-thp: actually i'm not using any kind of GL, at least not explicitly. the flags to SDL_CreateWindow() are SDL_WINDOW_SHOWN | SDL_WINDOW_FULLSCREEN.16:31
thpln-: how do you do rendering then? using SDL surfaces?16:32
thpwith SDL_CreateRenderer and friends?16:33
thphave a look at this example:
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ln-that's right. SDL_CreateRenderer, SDL_CreateTextureFromSurface, SDL_RenderCopy, etc.16:34
Morpog_PCMSameer, well here camperplus launches, but i don't get a working viewfinder16:34
MSameerMorpog_PC: yes there is a problem with bundling libraries16:34
MSameerI am rebuilding the whole gstreamer stack now with rpath16:34
MSameerand I hope it will work16:34
Morpog_PCgreat, will try again later then :D16:35
MSameerMorpog_PC: will ping you too when I get it working16:35
Morpog_PCnice, thx16:35
MSameeri tried patchelf and it caused a SIGILL in gst plugins scanner :p16:37
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Morpog_PCMSameer, you seem to fix the app in landscape orientation, but the closing gesture seems to stay at portrait orientation.16:42
MSameerMorpog_PC: really? not here at least16:42
Morpog_PCwait, wrong told16:43
Morpog_PCother way around16:43
Morpog_PCor, wait, could be a feature of sailfish16:43
Morpog_PClet me try with another app16:44
MSameeri really should copy all the bundled dependencies from the build root16:45
Morpog_PCok, it's a sailfish feature :)16:45
MSameerMorpog_PC: what is it?16:45
Morpog_PCI never use locked orientation, thats why I was puzzled16:45
MSameeri don't have portrait mode support yet16:46
Morpog_PCI thought that when you hold the phone in portrait but the app is locked in landscape, that the closing gesture follows the physical orientation of the device16:46
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MSameerit's not like harmattan16:48
MSameerok so i think now it should work16:48
MSameerbuilding the final RPM16:48
Morpog_PCyep, used harmattan way too long :)16:48
MSameerMorpog_PC: I still use harmattan until now :p16:49
Morpog_PCOnly as alarm clock :D16:49
MSameeras a primary phone :/16:49
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Morpog_PCMaybe as nemomobile target in the future, if the adaption gets better and kernel updated....16:50
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MSameersailfish is missing a good camera app :p16:50
MSameerIMHO of course16:50
MSameerjust note that i am still in pre-alpha state so don't expect much16:51
Morpog_PCI have seen worse apps :)16:52
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MSameerMorpog_PC: coderus
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coderusits working now :)16:55
ln-thp: also getting a black screen with that example code. (using some bmp of my own instead of hello.bmp). i'll try to debug further. and i'll let you know if i find a reason.16:55
MSameercoderus: thank you :D16:56
MSameercoderus: ignore those warnings.16:56
MSameernow we are rolling16:57
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* coderus trying to use SeasideCache instead of QContacts ...16:59
MSameerincremental improvements and fixes should start to flow in ;)17:00
Morpog_PCstrange, my pc doesn't see my jolla on usb anymore :(17:03
* MSameer hides17:04
Morpog_PCnot your fault :)17:04
MSameerwhy is it that my first release is always a failure17:05
MSameerhappened for harmattan as well17:05
Morpog_PCwas my monitors usb hub17:05
MSameerand had to sit down and hack a fix :p17:05
Morpog_PCfinally, can ssh in again :)17:06
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Morpog_PCthere we go, working viewfinder17:07
coderustoo lazy for changing backends... LD17:08
MSameerit's the same harmattan app. nothing fancy17:08
coderusMSameer: well, i not used your app on harmattan :D17:08
Morpog_PClooking dood already. the icons are great for sailfish17:08
coderusi used rawcam on harmattan :D17:09
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MSameercoderus: not my fault that you are a hardcore guy :P17:10
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MSameerand I don't use QtMultimedia :p17:13
* MSameer LARTS QtMultimedia17:13
Morpog_PCwith settings opened you cannot capture an image MSameer17:15
Morpog_PCtaken picture woth front camera is 180 degrees rotated17:16
MSameerwhich settings?17:17
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MSameerfront camera is broken here too17:18
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Morpog_PCthe bottom ones in viewfinder17:18
Morpog_PCstrange, now it works17:18
MSameeri have them open and it works ...17:19
Morpog_PCi can reproduce it17:19
Morpog_PCchange to front camera and back to rear camera and leave the settings open, tehn try to capture an image17:19
Morpog_PConly works if you close the settings17:19
MSameerstill works fine here :/17:20
Morpog_PCnow it worked too but segfaulted after :D17:20
MSameeroh crap17:21
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MSameerand keep killing mm-qcamera-daemon17:21
MSameeruntil you get no such process17:21
Morpog_PCbut hey, pretty stable and nice working for an early release17:21
MSameerthat might revive your camera without having to reboot17:21
MSameerI'd not call it stable now that there is a crash :(17:22
Morpog_PCMSameer, I didn't need to, everything still works17:22
MSameerI expect crashes to be honest17:23
MSameerI have shiny new gstreamer layer so bugs will be there17:23
Morpog_PCbtw, is it a touch focus or an exposure setting when typing on the viewfinder?17:23
MSameerI did a fair amount of testing but that's always not enough17:23
MSameerMorpog_PC: I think it's touch focus17:23
MSameerandroid camera has exposure points too but I did not add that yet17:24
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Morpog_PCbut isn't touch focus and caf at the same time pretty stupid?17:25
MSameeri have not tested that part as my development phone has broken focus :p17:25
MSameerMorpog_PC: why? you set the focus point but that point can move so camera still tries to ficus17:25
Morpog_PChmmm true17:26
Morpog_PCbut with caf you could let it do the focusing and just touch to only do exposure setting17:26
MSameerbut what if you want to focus on something different?17:27
MSameerin case you disagree with camera's decision17:27
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Morpog_PCstill would he handy in sunny areas where exposure in touched area is too bright or too dark17:28
MSameeri am planning to do it so that if you long tap then you set the exposure point (or something else I am not sure about yet)17:28
Morpog_PCthat would be great17:28
coderusplease someone tell me what SeasideCache better that QContactsManager and i'll start migrating it now...17:28
MSameerwe will get separate focus and exposure areas since android camera hal (which we use) supports it17:28
MSameercoderus: wish I'd know :/17:28
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Morpog_PCMSameer, really nice working so far, I expected much less from first release17:32
Morpog_PCGood job!17:32
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SfietKonstantinBasilSemuonov: you wrote quite a lot in the agenda for SFOS meeting17:51
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BasilSemuonovSfiet_Konstantin, ;)17:51
MSameerMorpog_PC: thank you for testing too17:53
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tortoisedoc oo18:31
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tortoisedocI do not remember18:39
tortoisedocis there a list of NONOs for the harbour?18:40
Nicd-yes, look at the harbour faq18:40
kimmoliheh, i was just reading that list
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tortoisedocthat's a fa18:41
tortoisedoca simple list would be easier to read18:41
kimmoliat the end18:41
tortoisedoc(ofc there is also the tool heh)18:41
kimmolie.g. 'will be available for Harbour apps with one of the next updates." ... would like to know when this was written there ...18:42
kimmolithat is kinda obfuscated18:42
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MSameertortoisedoc: build the RPM, run it against the validator then start fixing18:45
MSameerthat's what I do18:45
MSameeryou will mostly end up either 1) shipping your own private copies of libraries or 2) finding alternative ways to implement what you want18:46
MSameerMorpog_PC: I'd be extremely thankful if you can reproduce the crash. perhaps I can fix it then18:50
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Morpog_PCMSameer, will try later :) Was about to start watching Gravity on Blu-ray in 3D18:51
MSameerMorpog_PC: enjoy :D18:51
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stephgtortoisedoc: whatever you were talking with kaltsi about18:56
stephgtwo days ago18:56
stephgjust as you left18:56
stephghe had a solution18:56
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coderusi cant find packages managing in SDK Control Center18:57
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stephgtortoisedoc: fwiw18:59
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tortoisedocstephg : thanks19:15
tortoisedocfigured it out the next day :P19:16
tortoisedocMSameer : the implementing workarounds is my planned way19:16
tortoisedocstephg : the documentation on the is misleading19:18
tortoisedocit refers to "size"19:18
tortoisedocso I automatically associated it to QSize :|19:18
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stephgaha, cool well glad you managed to sort it out19:24
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tortoisedocandroid app launches are not handled by libcontentaction, right?19:24
stephghey Stskeeps how'd your talk go?19:25
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Stskeepsgreat, thanks19:27
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stephgany slides or anything (or was it stuff that we've seen before)19:28
stephgwicked thx19:29
stephgnice flow chart, not seen that before19:29
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tortoisedocnow that's what I call a building infrastrucutre :D19:35
Stskeepsit's horridly outdated19:35
coderusreally. i dont see in SDK Control Center anything related to packages control. And i cant sync newly installed packages with SDK, because i dont see button for this :D19:36
tortoisedocout of curioustiy19:36
tortoisedocdo you use buildbot?19:36
coderusin Targets tab i only see Add New Target19:36
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tortoisedoccan a qmlviewer get focus events ? i.e. for example if you click outside of it?19:50
tortoisedocin applicationwindow19:51
tortoisedocI found onActiveFocusChanged19:51
tortoisedocbut it is not triggered when the focus changes to another app?19:51
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tortoisedoc(or am I using the wrong one here again)19:51
kaltsicoderus: sdk control center => manage a target.. there you can install and sync packages19:57
kaltsicoderus: if you don't see any targets in targets tab then .. well something's wrong19:58
kaltsibut I thought you don't use that stuff, but work in a chroot or something? maybe it was someone else20:01
tortoisedocqml qml qml20:01
tortoisedochow comes me & you never get along?20:01
matrixxshould emitting dataChanged in my custom model be enough to trigger update in SilicaListView?20:02
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matrixxnever mind, got it working20:09
coderuskaltsi: i'm working in chroot for a long time20:10
coderusand control center worked well20:10
coderusmatrixx: dont use dataCHanged everywhere20:11
coderusseparate for rowsAdded and rowsRemoved actions20:11
coderusalso use resetModel for cleaning and so20:11
coderususe dataChanged only if no rows added/removed when data is changed20:12
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* coderus trying to test SeasideCache in cli app, but it seems require to be used in QObject class20:12
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matrixxcoderus: I'm just changing one property in one item20:15
matrixxcoderus: not removing/adding any items20:15
matrixxI found dataChanged would be most lightweighted for that action20:15
coderusmatrixx: its for this action for sure :)20:16
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coderuskaltsi: seems just a bug in Matrix, restart Puma fixed everything :)20:35
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coderusSeasideCache seems doesnt like me...20:38
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coderusha, pushing commit to git with desctiptin "Should fix #issue" automatically closint this #issue :D20:53
M4rtinKcoderus: well, actually many projects do that20:55
M4rtinKwe have something similar, if (#bug id) is in the commit message20:56
M4rtinKand the bug is changed to modified, the QA guys are automatically notified :)20:56
M4rtinKbut haven't known Github has something similar :)20:56
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