Thursday, 2014-06-12

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squiddhow do I share internet connection over usb.. is there app for it04:18
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Nicd-squidd: there's an app called tethering in the store04:33
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tbralso it's as easy as issuing the iptables nat command04:54
Nicd-"as easy as iptables" sounds like a paradox to me :D04:56
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tbrNicd-: I know the essential commands by heart now for $reasons. :-S05:05
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kakosAnyone know if the Sailfish for Android devices ROM will run on a Galaxy Note?05:21
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tbrthere is no port to any of the note devices, yet. if you are asking that.05:26
kakosThat's what I wanted to know. :)05:27
kakosIs there a port to any phablet form device?05:27
tbrnot that I know of05:29
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coderusfinally solved that tricky (unexpectedly) videoRecorser settings :D05:45
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gabriel9|workif my app is named Foo, where should i make changes to mage it harbour-foo06:54
gabriel9|worklast night i tried to fix it for release, and i got alot of red stuff in IDE :D06:54
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stephggabriel9|work: ultimately in your yaml/spec file06:58
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gabriel9|workin spec i can see there is Do NOT Edit the Auto-generated Part!07:02
gabriel9|workwhat parts are auto generated?07:02
Nicd-all of it I think07:02
Nicd-based on the yaml07:02
gabriel9|workso i just edit yaml07:02
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Nicd-edit all appropriate stuff in the yaml file and then check the spec file afterwards07:02
gabriel9|worki changed Name and Version07:03
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gabriel9|workFatal: Too many spec files - please use -s to identify which one to use07:03
Nicd-you can use my sailtime app as a guide and see where it says SailTime and where it says harbour-sailtime07:03
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gabriel9|workyou changed .pro file also07:05
Nicd-that app was generated with the official sdk template07:05
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gabriel9|workFatal: Too many spec files - please use -s to identify which one to use07:07
Nicd-how many spec files do you have?07:08
gabriel9|workand foo.spec07:09
Nicd-drop the foo.spec07:09
gabriel9|worki did, now file:///usr/share/harbour-paradajz/qml/harbour-foo.qml: File not found07:10
gabriel9|worki did, now file:///usr/share/harbour-paradajz/qml/harbour-paradajz.qml: File not found07:10
gabriel9|workparadajz is the real project name07:10
Nicd-have you renamed the folder where your project is?07:10
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gabriel9|workshould i rename .pro file also07:11
Nicd-because it's looking for folder harbour-paradajz07:11
Nicd-follow my SailTime example07:11
gabriel9|workok i will try07:12
gabriel9|workthis is strange, in .rpm i have /usr/share/harbour-paradajz/07:12
gabriel9|workbut main QML file is stil named Paradajz.qml and he search for harbour-paradajz.qml07:13
Nicd-the paths that are searched for are autogenerated07:13
Nicd-you need to rename your main QML file07:13
gabriel9|workit works but now i have Two entries paradajz on launcher07:15
gabriel9|workone is with icon other is not07:15
tachikomamaybe a stupid question but i tried to install mutt from openrpos and that got a depemdency for gpgme - which i can't f7nd anywhere..07:16
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Nicd-gabriel9|work: the old one is from before the rename07:16
Nicd-you may need to manually remove it07:16
gabriel9|worki did, when i run again there is again two of them07:17
tachikomaany ideas where the gpgme paclage might be hiding?07:17
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tachikomathere is one in openrwpos but only as deb package07:17
Nicd-gabriel9|work: how many .desktop entries do you have in your yaml?07:18
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gabriel9|workin yaml there is only one line with   - '%{_datadir}/applications/%{name}.desktop'07:28
gabriel9|worki deleted all, do all changes and now app starts from IDE but on icon click it does not work07:28
Nicd-check what the .desktop file contains07:29
gabriel9|workmy bad, Exec needs to be: Exec=harbour-paradajz07:29
gabriel9|workit was Paradajz07:30
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gabriel9|worknow its ready for release :D07:34
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gabriel9|workValidation succeeded07:37
gabriel9|workchears Nicd07:37
faenilo/ guys07:38
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gabriel9|workThere is no Productivity category07:59
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SK_workgabriel9|work: Jolla is not about productivity :P08:04
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fluxhow about "Time wasting" category? "Open source"? "Love"?08:05
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gabriel9i dont have website08:57
gabriel9what to add there?08:58
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gabriel9it does not allow me to submit08:59
gabriel9Contact is not checked08:59
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Nicd-is your code public?09:00
Nicd-then put in that09:00
Nicd-your harbourized version is not public?09:01
gabriel9yes it is09:01
Nicd-but that's not harbour-paradajz09:02
Nicd-that's before the rename09:02
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kenguwhat is this tomato-app?09:03
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gabriel9|workNicd can i use your licance?09:06
Nicd-of course, it's not my licence :)09:06
Nicd-the MIT licence is quite popular09:07
gabriel9|workthis whole mess about licences is too much for me09:09
Nicd-MIT is pretty much "do whatever you like"09:09
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gabriel9|workthat is ok09:16
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tortoisedocjake9xx : good luck for your new ship trip :)09:18
NokiusHi just saw a few new features in like the cp alias but how I can start a script in fingerterm in pre is works fine with  Exec=fingerterm -e "./usr/bin/" but this fails now09:18
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tachikomamy favourite license ist the WTFPL license09:26
gabriel9|workhow much time QA needs to check my app09:26
Nicd-tachikoma: sadly it probably wouldn't fly in court09:27
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Nicd-gabriel9|work: usually a couple of days09:28
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tachikomaNicd-: it has not been tested yet, fsf says it is a valid license09:29
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tachikomathe faq is really funny to read :)09:30
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gabriel9|workis there a way to remove app from harbour? I have one in draft which is just test.09:38
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kaltsiNokius: fails how? the "./usr/bin/" path looks strange.. why the '.' ?09:40
Nicd-gabriel9|work: nice catch, there is no delete button09:40
Nokiuskaltsi: Oh I don't know why but it works with the dot removed it and Boh it works ah was tring and wondering THANKS!09:42
kaltsiNokius: I believe earlier when you started fingerterm it defaulted to the root dir /  and then you can call ./usr/bin/ but in update7 it defaults to user's home directory where you probably don't have the usr/bin/ directories?09:43
mfulzdoes someone know if editing /opt/alien/system/build.prop is working?09:43
mfulzseems like the changes are not working09:43
Nokiuskaltsi:  yes in U7 few things change like the cp alias09:44
kaltsihmm cp alias.. you means an alias for it in shell? I don't have one myself09:45
Nokiuslooks like that cp is now cp -i iirc had no cp questions before like u realy like to overwritte? unalias work so :) there is something new in the hut09:46
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tortoisedocrepetitive question ahead10:00
tortoisedoc(since I am extremely slow today)10:01
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tortoisedocthere is this dbus signal which states ulocking of lockscreen10:01
tortoisedoccan I unlock the lockscreen by sending it as well?10:01
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wazdpeople, are there any svg examples of sailfish UI icons?11:00
wazdI'm talking about actions, not app icon itself11:00
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kimmoliwazd: afaik there is no such available, i did make some icon-m- sized by my self. transparent with size of 64x64, with white or white+50% alpha as symbol itself within area of ~42x42 pix centered to transparent.11:58
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wazdkimmoli: well that's a fail, thanks :)11:59
kimmoliseems i did publish only png versions...
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marxistveganoddly need to reflash harmattan darn thing fails to boot now12:49
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gabriel9anyone have simple example with oAuth and qml?13:00
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gabriel9thinking to start new app for sailfish13:00
HtheBdoes anyone know how I can achieve this:
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SK_workHtheB: do you assume that you are not connected to the internet ?13:10
SK_workor do you want to show the panel even if you are ?13:11
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Nicd-would make sense to show it even if connected13:12
Nicd-because it's the only way to switch between wlans13:12
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SK_workHtheB: qdbus com.jolla.lipstick.ConnectionSelector / have interesting stuff13:14
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HtheBSK_work: indeed13:16
HtheBSK_work: but how can we add such action within the "Shortcuts puley menu" in the lockscreen?13:17
SK_workHtheB: create an icon in /usr/share/applications that invoke qdbus as exec13:18
SK_workdon't bother adding Icon, only Name is enough13:18
SK_work(not an icon, but a desktop file in /usr/share/...)13:18
HtheByeah I get the point I guess13:18
SK_workhide it in one folder13:18
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HtheBany idea what the whole command is to bring up that screen?13:19
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HtheB(is it possible to create a simple script without needing a PC/SDK?)13:20
Nicd-of course13:20
Nicd-at the simplest you can just have one .desktop file13:21
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HtheBThen the question still remains: Which command triggers the mobile data/wlan selection screen13:23
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SK_workHtheB: qdbus didn't you give anythin ?13:35
Turskiwhy does the kernel spam journal with proximity sensor readings?13:35
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Turskisomeone did debug build? :)13:37
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HtheBSK_work: haven't looked at it because... I have no clue :D13:40
SK_workHtheB: it's basically a dbus call13:41
SK_workHtheB: qdbus tool13:41
SK_workzypper in qt5-qtbase-qdbus (or something like that)13:41
HtheBlet me try it13:42
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SK_workHtheB: qdbus com.jolla.lipstick.ConnectionSelector / com.jolla.lipstick.ConnectionSelectorIf.openConnection wlan works13:43
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stephg_n4sledges: will chat later but 95% convinced it's the wlan not 3g13:44
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sledgesstephg_n4: cool, thanks13:46
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*** kaltsi changes topic to " - Alpha Qt5 SDK 1406 SDK out now for linux/mac/win - MD5s: - | For friendly Jolla mobile device community: #jollamobile | SDK together:"13:49
kaltsiyay new sdk :)13:52
kaltsinothing major in it now.. bugfixes and most importantly for the developers, up-to-date build targets13:54
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coderusAard: upgraded to hotfix, what regressions can happen?14:01
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Aardcoderus: not connecting to networks it used to connect, or dropping out of networks that were fine. on the other hand, this can be exactly the issues it may fix, depending on your setup14:02
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coderusAard: so, if my 3G connects okay and data working, it means hotfix didnt break anything? :)14:05
Aardwell, use it a bit and see :)14:05
coderusAard: OKAY :)14:05
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coderusupgrade sdk or not upgrade?14:10
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coderusis there any new features? or just rootstrap updated?14:10
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kaltsicheck the releasenotes.. not many updates, mainly fixes14:10
coderusmeans if everything works fine for me i can stay with current version :)14:11
coderusthanks :)14:11
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coderuswill upgrade sdk when it will be required :)14:12
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kaltsiit's a nice sdk.. shiny and new, worth upgrading 8)14:13
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kimmoli_sailing_yay, rpm crlf fixed14:27
stephg_n4cool kimmoli14:28
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locusfdo I really have to reopen all of my projects after each update?15:37
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coderuskaltsi: just i'm using chroot, you know. rsyncing everything again... ehh...15:49
coderuslocusf: just remove .pro.user file15:50
locusfcoderus: from where?15:50
coderusit's generated near your project .pro file :)15:51
locusfhmm now I didn't have to open up all my files15:52
locusfapparently Qt Creator didn't update today15:52
kaltsisure it did15:52
kaltsicheck help/about to see the build date?15:52
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kaltsithat's not the date, but seems like the correct git sha :)15:53
locusfJune 5th at 19:48:1015:53
kaltsithis time we didn't change the config directory, so it read your old settings from under the SailfishAlpha4 dir maybe15:53
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kaltsiif you had a device configured, you will probably need to remove and re-add it though15:53
kaltsidevice = phone15:54
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locusfok did so15:54
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raa70did you mean quality? =)16:37
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SK_workcoderus: :D17:08
* marxistvegan keeps failing on the moslo part of the install 17:10
coderusmarxistvegan: use gparted and repartition manually17:11
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marxistvegancoderus: i will try I have to go on a call now, but everytime I flash the zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix it fails to boot17:12
coderusis there QR app for sailfish available? Or what is the best QR app for android?17:13
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marxistvegancoderus: i get "Boot menu script not found"  on boot17:16
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tortoisedochi all!17:18
tortoisedocFatal error: File './qt/i486/qt5-qttools-5.1.0+git6-1.5.10.i486.rpm' not found on medium ''17:18
tortoisedocseems to happen when trying to install qdbus17:18
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coderusmarxistvegan: please read ubiboot readme properly and carefully :)17:22
coderustortoisedoc: you need qdbus on emulator? :)17:23
coderustortoisedoc: did you updated repos?17:23
coderusspecial: ping17:23
tortoisedoccoderus no, just realized as well that it might be the reason :)17:23
tortoisedoc(the repos)17:23
coderusspecial: is there ETA for allowing nemomobile-qml imports?17:23
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specialcoderus: not that I'm aware of. It's mostly a matter of API stability afaik?17:25
specialwhich one(s) in particular?17:25
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coderusspecial: thumbnailer, contacts and dbus :)17:33
specialthumbnailer and dbus just need documentation and polishing, thp is doing some work on dbus17:34
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specialcontacts ..the brisbane guys should comment on; it's a stable API, and some contact data is available to unprivileged applications now, but I don't know details or what the plan for third parties is17:34
special"patches welcome"? :p17:36
coderusspecial: i made one patch for contacts :P17:36
specialI'll file a few more bugs and hopefully we can make things move. I don't have the time and motivation to handle it personally right now17:40
specialif I don't write more code I'm going to go insane17:40
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Price15quick question if I want to be a part of the Early Adopter, then what must I do?17:42
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StskeepsPrice15: msg sledges17:43
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Price15Stskeeps: should I email him?17:44
Stskeepsno /query sledges, tell him your email and devices and why you'd like to17:44
Stskeepsand name if possible17:44
tortoisedocwhat's the early adopter? :)17:45
specialcoderus: large piles of emails generated, we'll see what comes of it17:47
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tortoisedocsledges : thanks17:51
wixit_Can Sailfish OS be installed on HTC Intruder (also known as Aria)?17:51
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sledgeswixit_: what's the latest android/cyanogen mod for it?17:52
wixit_I have managed to install a Cyanogenmod version of Android 4.1.2 to it , if that helps ...17:52
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sledgeswixit_: is that officially supported cm for it?17:53
wixit_but its not an official version of CM17:53
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sledgesthere :)17:53
wixit_but it works great without any issues ...17:53
sledgescongrats on launching it!17:53
sledgesare kernel/cm sources available for it?17:54
wixit_It should be ... let me check ...17:55
wixit_this is the model I mentioned -
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sledgescan't see kernel souces..17:59
sledgesbut it's 2.6.29..18:00
wixit_I got the rom from the XDA developers forum ...
wixit_But I can't seem to find the version I installed ... On the plus side, they seem to have experimented with an18:01
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wixit_unofficial CM of Android 4.4.318:02
sledgeswixit_: would this help: ?18:02
coderusspecial: ping me if any help needed. i have a lot of free time to code something :)18:04
marxistvegancoderus: you were correct...I was flashing the wrong kernel at the wrong time18:05
wixit_Yeah, I think this was the version I installed -
Price15Why is sailfishos rom flashed on cm and not directly on nexus aosp?18:08
specialcoderus: documentation, API review, and the changes from API review are most relevant, I guess.18:09
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netzviehiekku: did you send out the call for ML-moderators? (I might be blind though ;))18:10
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sledgesPrice15: because that sailfish port is based on CM18:10
wixit_Any idea when Jolla phones will be launched in India?18:11
coderusspecial: can you point me how to write docs in right format>18:11
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specialcoderus: heh. That is kind of undefined, too18:16
specialqdoc is used in some places, other things are used in others18:16
wixit_If an official CM version exists for a phone, can it be assumed that a SailfishOS port also existsfor it?18:17
wixit_Or that it can be made easily available?18:17
sledgessadly wixit we don't support <4.2 android versions :(18:18
sledgesyour cm10 port is 4.1.218:18
coderusspecial: i mean at beginning. how do peoples create Qt docs?18:19
coderusafaik qdoc is compiled html pages :)18:20
wixit_Yes, mine is 4.1.2, but I was asking in general ... to possible test SailfishOS with other phones ...18:20
wixit_possible = possibly18:20
coderuskaltsi: about new SDK. is there possibility to turn on dploying and install debuginfo rpms? ;)18:20
sledgeswixit_: any phone with >=cm10.1 or >=aosp4.4.2 is a good candidate18:21
wixit_Oh you only support phones that can run versions above Android 4.2?18:21
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wixit_oh ok18:21
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wixit_Well, as you can see there are new unofficial ports for my HTC that run Android > 4.2 ...18:22
wixit_so could that be used?18:22
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kaltsicoderus: I forgot about that.. no, other than editing the mb2 script run_deploy function where it copies the packages18:22
coderuskaltsi: i'll wait for next update ;)18:23
wixit_What are the minimum specs for Sailfish OS to run smoothly?18:23
sledgeswixit_: great! yet the fact it's not official CM will put hurdles in your way of porting18:24
sledgeswixit_: have you seen sailfishOS on Nexus One?18:24
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kaltsicoderus: :) got to think how to do it nicely.. may or may not end up in next rel18:24
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wixit_No. Actually I have just began exploring alternate OSes for mobile phones ...18:25
kaltsicoderus, I made a bug about it for myself18:25
wixit_I had privacy concerns about Google and Android18:25
sledgesso there ya go, it runs pretty well considered it's a >4yo phone18:25
wixit_and thus installed C, but I would prefer to completely shift to tizen or sailfish ... or something that is not tied with Google in any way ... :)18:26
wixit_C = CM18:26
sledgeswixit_: your phone is of similar age so :) i would like to see how kitkat runs on your phone first (you'll have to launch it anyway should you/community decide to port SF to it)18:26
wixit_What are the current phones on which SailfishOS has been successfully ported and runs perfectly?18:28
netzviehwixit_: nope. it runs reasonably well on the nexus 4 (mako) but other than that ...18:29
coderusPlease beta-test new Mitakuuluu build in one hour: Connection issues should be fixed.18:30
netzviehnot sure what's the status of the sgs3lte build18:30
wixit_hmm ...18:30
sledgeswixit_: nothing is perfect :)
sledgesit actually ran very smoothly on Nexus718:30
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sledgesnetzvieh: the lag on mako is actually thanks to Qt, not the hardware, and hopes up to get rid of it ;)18:31
wixit_on Nexus 7, doesn't SMS / Voice / Data work?18:32
wixit_The wiki page says N/A18:33
raa70nexus 7 has only wifi and lte versions18:33
Waitee1st gen nexus 7 has also 3g version18:34
wixit_So with SailfishOS it becomes more like an Ipod? :)18:34
Waiteenexus 7 is a tablet18:34
Waiteenexus 4 and 5 are phones18:34
wixit_Ah, my mistake!18:34
Waiteeno problem :)18:35
wixit_Why don't you guys tie up with XDA Developers and get official forum for Sailfish OS too? Involving that community should greatly speed up the porting effort18:36
wixit_on many phones ...18:36
Waiteeiirc there's actually an area for sailfishos on xda-developers forums18:37
sledgesgiven the release of hadk, this will accelerate18:37
Nc_Slightly off-topic: Anyone seen anything noting the max speed on the 4G LTE on the Jolla phones (was playing around with and Proximus LTE)18:37
sledgesporting manual18:37
sledgesNc_: less offtopic on #jollamobile :)18:38
Nc_There are too many IRC channels ;)18:38
wixit_@Waitee: where on xda?18:38
Waiteewait, i'll try to find it18:38
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sledgeslulz :))18:39
sledgeswe scared them :)))18:39
sledgesohnoez :)18:39
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wixit_Ah ok ...18:39
netzviehsledges: well this is the "official support channel", #jollamobile ist just inofficial (and should be prob ##jollamobile) :D18:40
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wixit_Well, thanks for all your time and patience.18:41
wixit_I certainly hope you guys do well. There is definitely a market for you, especially in asia, and hope you will tap it well.18:42
sledgesnetzvieh: interesting point, yet does it support Jolla phone? :)18:42
sledgeswixit_: thanks! (did you receive xda link btw? :)18:42
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netzviehsledges: well that was said in a meeting ;) but the topic here still states jolla phone -> #jollamobile :D18:43
wixit_Yes, I checked it out ... While I would love to help you guys with your porting effort, I am still a "web" developer and haven't explored18:43
wixit_mobile applications development ...18:44
sledgesnetzvieh: true that :D18:44
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netzviehmaybe we could ask Stskeeps if he had time to read up/do something about this ^^18:44
wixit_got to learn a lot ...18:45
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wixit_Thanks again. Take care.18:45
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nh1402something that i've been curious about is using Dalvik/ART from the CM kernel directly, for the Android compatibility layer, would that be possible?, or is there some licensing thing that comes with that18:58
tortoisedocquick question18:59
tortoisedochow to disable packaging of .qml files?18:59
tortoisedoci.e. if i place them in .res files instead18:59
Price15 I was curious as well, if sailfish is based on CM then what are the conflicts that prevent apk installations.19:00
tortoisedocI do not want them to be deployed on the side of hte exe as well19:00
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HtheBWnt: hi again19:10
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HtheBsomeone replied on my topic at tmo,
HtheBwhat would be the difference between your command and his?19:10
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ouafnicois someone know if there is a version for Nexus 4 ?19:16
HtheBnot yet...19:16
piggzn9? :D19:16
ouafnicodo you know when it can be out ?19:16
HtheBpiggz: n9? sure...19:16
ouafnicohope it will be soon19:17
ouafnicoseems to be a good release19:17
HtheBouafnico: why not just BUY a jolla?..19:17
ouafnicobecause my nexus is not old :s19:17
HtheBSell it?19:17
vgradepiggz: I'm working on it but not many hours to spend atm19:17
piggzvgrade: really? awesome19:18
HtheBby the way, can someone create a package for me? (RPM)19:18
piggzi thought everyone had given up!19:18
ouafnicoyes I know, but I like trying first :)19:18
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ouafnicothe 1.0.5 is quite good19:18
HtheBouafnico: what I have heard, they will release a special launcher for android19:18
piggzvgrade: is the kernel still the bloker?19:18
kimmoliHtheB: can you put you nice icon somewhere, it wants to download it as jpg from tmo .. :(19:18
HtheBkimmoli: really? I uploaded it as png19:19
HtheBcan you package it for me kimmoli ?19:19
kimmolii can19:19
vgradepiggz: there has been great work in that area, I think I saw some sucess stories on camera and modem from filippz19:19
HtheBlet me give you the files19:20
filippzvgrade: I saw build log of kernel-adaptation-n950 - I think n9_mer_defconfig is not used, so it errors out19:21
vgradefilippz: yea, I've not had time to progress.  Just managed to get the webhook working19:22
filippzOK, I'm just finishing adding few things to n9_mer_defconfig as reported by mer_verify_kernel_config19:23
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vgradefilippz: ok, I'll make a PR once I have the packaging19:24
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filippzGreat, thanks! I'm off to see THE game now :)19:25
vgradefilippz: same here19:26
* tbr just lost THE game ;)19:26
filippzYou'll be cheering for CRO I hope!19:27
vgradefilippz: on the fence19:28
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marxistvegancoderus: fyi I am completely back up and running harmattan and sailfish19:39
piggzvgrade: what version is that kernel?19:39
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piggzi really ought to set up a build system for nemo and test this stuff out19:40
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Nightmare__did anyone install the current sdk update on win8?19:41
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stephggood evening folks19:44
Price15can someone tell me how to keep the phone on when I am using ssh in developer mode19:45
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stephgPrice15: what do you mean by keep it on? (also which phone)19:46
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Price15stephg: I am on the nexus 4 EA 2 and I use the ssh to send files and install apps etc. I dont want the device to sleep when transferring19:47
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stephgah, it sleeps somewhat less deeply if it's plugged into USB19:48
stephgso that may help, but beyond that at the moment keeping the display on really helps19:48
Price15cool havent had much luck with the USB, so generally try Wifi. I just wish there was an option to keep display on indefinitely19:49
vgradepiggz: 3.5.319:49
kimmolithat is strange, i have no issues using ssh to phone19:49
stephgby USB I meant charging (but if you have it plgged intoa computer you may as well transfer that way)19:50
stephgkimmoli: the n4 doesn't behave as well as the jolla :(19:50
kimmoliaa n4, ofc.19:50
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stephgPrice15: if you have lots to transfer, go into settings and change the display timeout to 10 mins19:52
stephgthat will probably set something by dbus and there should be a way to disable it completely but I've not looked19:52
Price15cool. Also ssh wifi doesnt work when connected with usb19:54
stephghm Price15 that doesn't sound right, ssh should work regardless19:55
stephgif you can reproduce it, that's a bug :)19:55
Price15well I tried it a couple of times. I have to remove the usb cable only then it connects (using terminal lubuntu)19:56
stephgah so that may be something else19:57
stephgso the n4 has the adb-like dhcp daemon running19:58
stephgso when you plug the USB in your PC behaves like a DHCP client and gets assigned a 192.168.0/24 address19:59
Price15yup will try and check on other systems as well. But if there is a bug do I report on TJC or somewhere else?19:59
stephgwhenever that happens on my kubuntu that stops all streams dead (e.g. radio/youtube etc.)19:59
stephgreport it here, and TJC incase folks miss it19:59
stephgI'd test it now but I'm not allowed in the livingroom and want to watch the football online ;)20:00
Price15Not sure how to report bugs, I'm kind of a noob here20:00
Price15cool coo20:00
stephgdon't be afraid :)20:00
stephgeveryone here is friendly, say what you've found, they'll ask you questions and help you work it through20:01
kaltsicoderus: should I be able to build mitakuuluu2 without changes if I just clone the git repo from github?20:01
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coderuskaltsi: no20:02
coderusi didnt pushed androidhelper component20:02
kaltsiright.. that's what I was wondering about :)20:02
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coderusyou need to remove it from root pro file to compile20:03
kaltsinod.. btw it seems to be "andriodhelper"20:03
stephgPrice15: keep playing though; is this your first linux-ish device?20:03
coderuskaltsi: this component using dark magic for getting whatsapp account credentials from dalvik whatsapp :)20:03
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Price15stephg: yeah first time with everything linux, irc, opensource, qt even programming language20:04
jukenhi! i wanna become an early adopter too20:05
stephgjuken: welcome20:05
stephgPrice15: but you must have a bit of an interest, I mean you have an n4 and you have a linux desktop20:06
coderuskaltsi: commented this line to make it compile :)20:06
MSameercoderus: stop stealing my users :D20:06
coderusMSameer: :D20:06
Price15stephg: yup very excited wanted to contribute back to community and fan on Richard stallman. So trying new things taking risks20:07
jukenmay i know what are the android devices supported as of now?20:07
stephgPrice15: hehe cool, well tinker, and you're in the right place20:07
kaltsicoderus: cool :) btw I can't seem to start the build with 'mb2 build' .. I had to run qmake -r manually from sb2 session20:07
stephgjuken: at the moment only the nexus 420:08
stephgthe S3 4G should be very soon20:08
stephgand there are others in the works20:08
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stephgjuken: the hard work can be seen here:
stephgjuken: what device do you have at hand?20:09
SkorpyHey, are the Silica components yet tweakable in anyway? (would like to tweak flickable a bit)20:09
jukeni have only note 2 n710020:10
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jukenwill this be supported as well?20:10
stephgso the way jolla said thing would work was: n4 initially, then i9305 (the S3 4G)20:10
leszekSkorpy: they aren't directly but you could ship your own flickable based on the SiliciaFlickable I guess.20:11
stephgwhilst that was going on, they were going to be working on the Hardware Adaptation Development Kit (HADK)20:11
jukeni see may i know the specific model of nexus 4 that is supported at the moment?20:11
Skorpyleszek: darn. I was hoping I could tweak it system-wide.20:11
stephgwhich would basically be instructions on what's needed to adapt the low-level stuff so Sailfish will run20:12
leszekSkorpy: I think you can do this manually if you have developer mode on. You just need to find the qml file for it :)20:12
stephgjuken: I think any n4?20:13
leszekSkorpy: and I guess it should be somewhere on the phone20:13
stephgjuken: the HADK should be out soon20:13
* stephg is just community so doesn't know20:13
jukencan you give the instructions on how to install it? i will look for nexus 4 here hehehe20:14
Skorpyleszek: yeah, I'm trying to find them, but I quess they're hidden like the lipstick specific were first20:14
stephgjuken: looking, one sec20:15
jukenok im waiting20:15
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kaltsicoderus: the mitakuuluu2 specfile does not have the %qtc_qmake5 macro before %qtc_make which means that it can't be built with mb2.. qmake is never called20:17
jukenthanks a lot20:17
stephgdoes your note 2 have a cyanogenmod 10.1 port?20:17
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jukenyeah there is20:19
kaltsicoderus: one more thing.. the spec file wants to install bindir/harbour-mitakuuluu2-helper but that binary is never built20:19
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kaltsibut if this is not meant to be an buildable-to-rpm project, then no prob :)20:20
jukenwill it be possible to install it on my note 2 if i run cyanogenmod?20:21
Price15stephg: bro thanks for all the help. I am going to get some sleep.20:22
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stephgg'night Price1520:22
coderuskaltsi: thats helper is a part of androidhelper...20:22
coderuskaltsi: any ideas how to disable it without breaking my builds? :)20:23
coderuskaltsi: and what about %qtc_qmake5 ? how qtc builds then? its not using mb2?20:23
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kaltsicoderus: hmm you're missing that line, it's required.. qtc does use mb2 and this project does not build in my qtc or from command line with mb220:24
jukenwill it be possible to install it on my note 2 if i run cyanogenmod?20:24
kaltsiif you haven't done a git clean -xdf in your source tree, then maybe you could try it (but be careful if you have any uncommitted files)20:24
coderuskaltsi: i'm building it with qtc every time and its fine for me :)20:24
stephgjuken: eventually, but it'll require work I'm afraid20:24
kaltsicoderus: I suspect that you have a Makefile there?20:24
coderuskaltsi: no20:25
kaltsiumm.. well how would it build without a makefile?20:25
coderuskaltsi: i can remove whole shadow build dir and successully compile project20:25
stephgjuken: I don't know how much, we're waiting for the HADK20:25
jukeni see20:25
kaltsicoderus: but believe me, I know the sdk, and I know how to clone a git repo.. this does not build :)20:25
kaltsiif you want to check.. clone it to some other directory for yourself20:26
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coderuskaltsi: doing it now :)20:28
jukennexus 4 with 8gb rom is supported right?20:28
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coderuskaltsi: interesting. it doesnt compiled :)20:30
stephgjuken yes, I don't think there are differences20:30
coderusjust add that %qtc_qmake5 before %qtc_qmake ?20:30
kaltsicoderus, yep20:30
kaltsithat makes it call qmake which creates the Makefile which is used by %qtc_make20:30
* stephg is allowed in the living room, bbl20:31
coderuskaltsi: how i did compiled it before then :D20:31
coderuskaltsi: always used qtc20:31
kaltsicoderus: is it possible that something in the missing android thingy adds something?20:31
kaltsior perhaps you did have a Makefile lying around somewhere20:31
coderuskaltsi: adds %qtc_qmake5 to spec? :D20:32
coderusno it just compiling one binary20:32
jukeni see thanks a lot for your help stephg i'll go too sleep now. thanks and God bless20:32
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coderuskaltsi: having %attr(4755, root, root) %{_bindir} in spec is okay20:32
kaltsihmm or wait.. what's the 4 there? :p20:32
kaltsiright.. I think there was some harbour rule against that20:33
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coderusits not for harbour, you know :)20:33
kaltsispecfile ok, harbour not :)20:33
coderuskaltsi: commited, thanks20:35
kaltsiI'm trying to think how to make the -helper optional20:36
kimmolipackaged internet connection shortcut thing by HtheB - get it here
coderusi'm using setuid nemo setgid privileged for binaries, it works with invoker without setuid bit, only androidhelper using setuid 0 for dark magic :)20:36
coderuskaltsi: i just commented out helper from pro20:36
HtheBkimmoli: this should be actually set as default for Sailfish OS like Harmattan and Fremantle has....20:36
coderuscommited it by mistake, ot wanted to publish it sources, i dont remember i tnow20:37
coderusbut i dont want to publish it sources for now, while it working :D20:37
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coderusdont want to force whatsapp to change aes keys. it's so hard to hack this obfucsated classes to find it20:38
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iekkunezticle, unfortunately not yet. i hope it's first thing tomorrow morning.20:41
kaltsicoderus: I can confirm it builds now without changes :)20:44
kaltsicoderus: but change the 4755 bindir line to:20:45
kaltsi%attr(4755, root, root) %{_bindir}/*20:45
kaltsinow without the /* the package claims to own /usr/bin and wants to put suid bit on the directory too20:46
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kaltsibtw starting from today libdl is an allowed dependency in harbour.. in case someone is bundling that with their package20:49
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coderuswhat is libdl? :D20:50
coderusah, ld :D20:51
kaltsibasic glibc provided library, which provides dlopen() and dlsym() for dynamically opening libs from your code20:51
coderusstupid me :D20:51
coderusaha, got it, thanks :D20:52
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wazdcheck, one two20:53
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stephgvgrade (if you're still here) how's youre n5?20:54
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marxistvegancoderus: one issue...after install I cannot install the warehouse it tells me aegis rejecting and I am not sure the notes on that21:01
marxistveganthough I have n9 tweaks installed and working21:01
marxistvegani did the Inception removal and added coderus-aegis21:01
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coderusmarxistvegan: i think you choosed wrong channel for asking :)21:17
coderustry #harmattan21:17
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coderuskaltsi: can i do sync sdk -> qtc manually cnd check it progress?21:26
kaltsithat's in the sdk-manage script where it calls rsync and it doesn't give the verbose option, so no progress.. otherwise there would be "too much" progress, since there are so many files :)21:27
coderusrsync have no small verbose options? like percentage or so?21:28
kaltsi/usr/bin/sdk-manage --target --sync <name>21:28
coderuskaltsi: i just did zypper ref && zypper up in sb2 ... let's see what happens :D21:28
kaltsihmm if it has a small verbose option I'd be interested in that too21:28
jokke_hey is there any reasonable tutorial to get up to speed with the app development?21:30
coderusjokke_: what you want to acheve?21:30
jokke_I'm really python guy and backend/middleware dude, so I'm having hard time to get a grasp of the QML/C++ interactions etc.21:31
coderusso, what is the stop-factor for you?21:32
jokke_coderus: Was planning to do something simple interacting with network to get understanding of the lifecycle. My ultimate goal is to write a controller app for my home automation system21:32
coderuswith python you should yse PyOtherSide QML bindings21:33
jokke_coderus: pretty much really get the data flowing a) from user interactions to the C++ code and ofc the responses back ... So if I write a function into the C++ sources do I need to do some black magic to access it or can I just call it from the QML side?21:33
Morpog_Jolla_jokke_: you could like www.qmlbook.com21:34
coderusjokke_: the best way is registering C++ types to qml with qmlRegisterType21:35
coderusjokke_: then you'll just create MyNewClass { id: test123 }21:35
coderusjokke_: and  then test123.call123() will execute your call123 from C++21:35
jokke_ok cool21:35
coderusreceiving signals is just onSignal: { // do something }21:36
jokke_Morpog_Jolla_: will have a look on that, thanks!21:36
jokke_coderus: cheers ... that looks like it should get me started (and that PyOtherSide might be just what I needed to get comfy) :)21:37
jokke_Thanks guys ... I think this just got me over my plank page syndrome. Just didn't know where to start from21:38
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jokke_Morpog_Jolla_: the does not look of too much ... just site construction placeholder21:40
Morpog_Jolla_oh :(21:40
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Morpog_Jolla_jokke_: gpodder is an app using pyotherside btw21:41
coderusjokke_: first you should decide: python or C++ as backend :)21:47
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jokke_coderus: actually one more question before going that far ... what's the dependency policy ... as in if I go for python can I just put like stuff from the pypi as dependency and get them installed, do I need to bndle all I need into the rpm or what's the deal?21:49
jokke_because if pypi is fair game, I have no problem to decide :D21:49
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coderusjokke_: you can check if it available in repos21:50
coderusjokke_: but afaik no pypi21:50
* HtheB looks to WC1421:50
coderusjokke_: only generic components are there. you need to bundle all stuff you need21:51
fzkHtheB: and im only looking at berget 12 :(21:52
HtheBlol :P21:52
piggz_time for zzzzz21:53
HtheBif it was b12>wc14, then you wouldn't be the only one looking at it :)21:53
fzkim glad wc14 is going to be at the same time, lots of enemy troops are gonna watch football instead so my team gets more time for infiltration21:53
fzki just wonder how they are gonna act if i walk into their camp and say to their general "knife-kill"21:55
jokke_coderus: thanks ... is it mer project repos I should be looking for stuff I want to utilize?21:55
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coderusjokke_: yes21:56
coderusjokke_: you can just open SDK Control Center in QtCreator and search packages there21:57
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coderusspecial: thanks for pointing me. added keepalive stuff. will test how it works in real life :D22:04
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coderusMitakuuluu v0.8.0 can record and send video messages now! DL: LOG:
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sledgescoderus: \o/23:58
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