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squidd | how do I share internet connection over usb.. is there app for it | 04:18 |
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Nicd- | squidd: there's an app called tethering in the store | 04:33 |
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tbr | also it's as easy as issuing the iptables nat command | 04:54 |
Nicd- | "as easy as iptables" sounds like a paradox to me :D | 04:56 |
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tbr | Nicd-: I know the essential commands by heart now for $reasons. :-S | 05:05 |
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kakos | Anyone know if the Sailfish for Android devices ROM will run on a Galaxy Note? | 05:21 |
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tbr | there is no port to any of the note devices, yet. if you are asking that. | 05:26 |
kakos | That's what I wanted to know. :) | 05:27 |
kakos | Thanks | 05:27 |
kakos | Is there a port to any phablet form device? | 05:27 |
tbr | not that I know of | 05:29 |
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coderus | finally solved that tricky (unexpectedly) videoRecorser settings :D | 05:45 |
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gabriel9|work | if my app is named Foo, where should i make changes to mage it harbour-foo | 06:54 |
gabriel9|work | last night i tried to fix it for release, and i got alot of red stuff in IDE :D | 06:54 |
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stephg | gabriel9|work: ultimately in your yaml/spec file | 06:58 |
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gabriel9|work | in spec i can see there is Do NOT Edit the Auto-generated Part! | 07:02 |
gabriel9|work | what parts are auto generated? | 07:02 |
Nicd- | all of it I think | 07:02 |
Nicd- | based on the yaml | 07:02 |
gabriel9|work | so i just edit yaml | 07:02 |
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Nicd- | edit all appropriate stuff in the yaml file and then check the spec file afterwards | 07:02 |
gabriel9|work | i changed Name and Version | 07:03 |
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gabriel9|work | Fatal: Too many spec files - please use -s to identify which one to use | 07:03 |
Nicd- | you can use my sailtime app as a guide and see where it says SailTime and where it says harbour-sailtime | 07:03 |
Nicd- | https://bitbucket.org/Nicd/sailtime/src | 07:03 |
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gabriel9|work | you changed .pro file also | 07:05 |
Nicd- | that app was generated with the official sdk template | 07:05 |
gabriel9|work | ah | 07:05 |
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gabriel9|work | Fatal: Too many spec files - please use -s to identify which one to use | 07:07 |
Nicd- | how many spec files do you have? | 07:08 |
gabriel9|work | two | 07:09 |
Nicd- | whY? | 07:09 |
gabriel9|work | harbour-foo.spec | 07:09 |
gabriel9|work | and foo.spec | 07:09 |
Nicd- | drop the foo.spec | 07:09 |
gabriel9|work | i did, now file:///usr/share/harbour-paradajz/qml/harbour-foo.qml: File not found | 07:10 |
gabriel9|work | i did, now file:///usr/share/harbour-paradajz/qml/harbour-paradajz.qml: File not found | 07:10 |
gabriel9|work | paradajz is the real project name | 07:10 |
Nicd- | have you renamed the folder where your project is? | 07:10 |
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gabriel9|work | nop | 07:10 |
gabriel9|work | should i rename .pro file also | 07:11 |
Nicd- | because it's looking for folder harbour-paradajz | 07:11 |
Nicd- | yes | 07:11 |
Nicd- | follow my SailTime example | 07:11 |
gabriel9|work | ok i will try | 07:12 |
gabriel9|work | this is strange, in .rpm i have /usr/share/harbour-paradajz/ | 07:12 |
Nicd- | yes? | 07:12 |
gabriel9|work | but main QML file is stil named Paradajz.qml and he search for harbour-paradajz.qml | 07:13 |
Nicd- | the paths that are searched for are autogenerated | 07:13 |
gabriel9|work | ah | 07:13 |
Nicd- | you need to rename your main QML file | 07:13 |
tachikoma | moin | 07:14 |
gabriel9|work | it works but now i have Two entries paradajz on launcher | 07:15 |
gabriel9|work | one is with icon other is not | 07:15 |
tachikoma | maybe a stupid question but i tried to install mutt from openrpos and that got a depemdency for gpgme - which i can't f7nd anywhere.. | 07:16 |
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Nicd- | gabriel9|work: the old one is from before the rename | 07:16 |
Nicd- | you may need to manually remove it | 07:16 |
gabriel9|work | i did, when i run again there is again two of them | 07:17 |
tachikoma | any ideas where the gpgme paclage might be hiding? | 07:17 |
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tachikoma | there is one in openrwpos but only as deb package | 07:17 |
Nicd- | gabriel9|work: how many .desktop entries do you have in your yaml? | 07:18 |
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gabriel9|work | in yaml there is only one line with - '%{_datadir}/applications/%{name}.desktop' | 07:28 |
gabriel9|work | i deleted all, do all changes and now app starts from IDE but on icon click it does not work | 07:28 |
Nicd- | check what the .desktop file contains | 07:29 |
gabriel9|work | my bad, Exec needs to be: Exec=harbour-paradajz | 07:29 |
gabriel9|work | it was Paradajz | 07:30 |
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Nicd- | yeah | 07:31 |
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gabriel9|work | now its ready for release :D | 07:34 |
Nicd- | yaay | 07:34 |
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gabriel9|work | Validation succeeded | 07:37 |
gabriel9|work | chears Nicd | 07:37 |
Nicd- | good! | 07:37 |
faenil | o/ guys | 07:38 |
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gabriel9|work | There is no Productivity category | 07:59 |
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SK_work | gabriel9|work: Jolla is not about productivity :P | 08:04 |
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flux | how about "Time wasting" category? "Open source"? "Love"? | 08:05 |
gabriel9|work | :D | 08:09 |
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gabriel9 | omg | 08:57 |
gabriel9 | i dont have website | 08:57 |
gabriel9 | what to add there? | 08:58 |
Nicd- | nothing | 08:58 |
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gabriel9 | it does not allow me to submit | 08:59 |
gabriel9 | Contact is not checked | 08:59 |
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Nicd- | is your code public? | 09:00 |
gabriel9 | yes | 09:00 |
gabriel9 | https://bitbucket.org/gabriel9/ | 09:00 |
Nicd- | then put in that | 09:00 |
gabriel9 | ok | 09:01 |
Nicd- | your harbourized version is not public? | 09:01 |
gabriel9 | yes it is | 09:01 |
gabriel9 | https://bitbucket.org/gabriel9/paradajz | 09:01 |
Nicd- | but that's not harbour-paradajz | 09:02 |
Nicd- | that's before the rename | 09:02 |
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kengu | what is this tomato-app? | 09:03 |
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gabriel9|work | Nicd can i use your licance? | 09:06 |
Nicd- | of course, it's not my licence :) | 09:06 |
Nicd- | the MIT licence is quite popular | 09:07 |
gabriel9|work | thanks | 09:07 |
gabriel9|work | this whole mess about licences is too much for me | 09:09 |
Nicd- | MIT is pretty much "do whatever you like" | 09:09 |
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gabriel9|work | that is ok | 09:16 |
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tortoisedoc | jake9xx : good luck for your new ship trip :) | 09:18 |
Nokius | Hi just saw a few new features in 1.0.7.16 like the cp alias but how I can start a script in fingerterm in pre 1.0.7.16 is works fine with Exec=fingerterm -e "./usr/bin/awesomescript.sh" but this fails now | 09:18 |
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tachikoma | my favourite license ist the WTFPL license | 09:26 |
tachikoma | http://www.wtfpl.net/ | 09:26 |
gabriel9|work | lol | 09:26 |
gabriel9|work | how much time QA needs to check my app | 09:26 |
gabriel9|work | ? | 09:26 |
Nicd- | tachikoma: sadly it probably wouldn't fly in court | 09:27 |
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Nicd- | gabriel9|work: usually a couple of days | 09:28 |
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tachikoma | Nicd-: it has not been tested yet, fsf says it is a valid license | 09:29 |
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tachikoma | the faq is really funny to read :) | 09:30 |
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gabriel9|work | is there a way to remove app from harbour? I have one in draft which is just test. | 09:38 |
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kaltsi | Nokius: fails how? the "./usr/bin/awesomescript.sh" path looks strange.. why the '.' ? | 09:40 |
Nicd- | gabriel9|work: nice catch, there is no delete button | 09:40 |
Nokius | kaltsi: Oh I don't know why but it works with the dot removed it and Boh it works ah was tring and wondering THANKS! | 09:42 |
kaltsi | Nokius: I believe earlier when you started fingerterm it defaulted to the root dir / and then you can call ./usr/bin/foo.sh but in update7 it defaults to user's home directory where you probably don't have the usr/bin/ directories? | 09:43 |
mfulz | does someone know if editing /opt/alien/system/build.prop is working? | 09:43 |
mfulz | seems like the changes are not working | 09:43 |
Nokius | kaltsi: yes in U7 few things change like the cp alias | 09:44 |
kaltsi | hmm cp alias.. you means an alias for it in shell? I don't have one myself | 09:45 |
Nokius | looks like that cp is now cp -i iirc had no cp questions before like u realy like to overwritte? unalias work so :) there is something new in the hut | 09:46 |
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tortoisedoc | hmm | 10:00 |
tortoisedoc | repetitive question ahead | 10:00 |
tortoisedoc | (since I am extremely slow today) | 10:01 |
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tortoisedoc | there is this dbus signal which states ulocking of lockscreen | 10:01 |
tortoisedoc | can I unlock the lockscreen by sending it as well? | 10:01 |
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wazd | people, are there any svg examples of sailfish UI icons? | 11:00 |
wazd | I'm talking about actions, not app icon itself | 11:00 |
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kimmoli | wazd: afaik there is no such available, i did make some icon-m- sized by my self. transparent with size of 64x64, with white or white+50% alpha as symbol itself within area of ~42x42 pix centered to transparent. | 11:58 |
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wazd | kimmoli: well that's a fail, thanks :) | 11:59 |
kimmoli | seems i did publish only png versions... https://github.com/kimmoli/paint/tree/master/qml/icons | 12:00 |
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marxistvegan | oddly need to reflash harmattan darn thing fails to boot now | 12:49 |
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gabriel9 | anyone have simple example with oAuth and qml? | 13:00 |
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gabriel9 | thinking to start new app for sailfish | 13:00 |
HtheB | does anyone know how I can achieve this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1429299#post1429299 | 13:00 |
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SK_work | HtheB: do you assume that you are not connected to the internet ? | 13:10 |
SK_work | or do you want to show the panel even if you are ? | 13:11 |
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Nicd- | would make sense to show it even if connected | 13:12 |
Nicd- | because it's the only way to switch between wlans | 13:12 |
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SK_work | HtheB: qdbus com.jolla.lipstick.ConnectionSelector / have interesting stuff | 13:14 |
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HtheB | SK_work: indeed | 13:16 |
HtheB | Hmmm | 13:17 |
HtheB | SK_work: but how can we add such action within the "Shortcuts puley menu" in the lockscreen? | 13:17 |
SK_work | HtheB: create an icon in /usr/share/applications that invoke qdbus as exec | 13:18 |
SK_work | don't bother adding Icon, only Name is enough | 13:18 |
SK_work | (not an icon, but a desktop file in /usr/share/...) | 13:18 |
HtheB | yeah I get the point I guess | 13:18 |
SK_work | hide it in one folder | 13:18 |
SK_work | :) | 13:18 |
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HtheB | any idea what the whole command is to bring up that screen? | 13:19 |
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HtheB | (is it possible to create a simple script without needing a PC/SDK?) | 13:20 |
Nicd- | of course | 13:20 |
Nicd- | at the simplest you can just have one .desktop file | 13:21 |
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HtheB | Then the question still remains: Which command triggers the mobile data/wlan selection screen | 13:23 |
leszek | hi | 13:23 |
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SK_work | HtheB: qdbus didn't you give anythin ? | 13:35 |
Turski | why does the kernel spam journal with proximity sensor readings? | 13:35 |
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Turski | someone did debug build? :) | 13:37 |
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HtheB | SK_work: haven't looked at it because... I have no clue :D | 13:40 |
SK_work | HtheB: it's basically a dbus call | 13:41 |
SK_work | HtheB: qdbus tool | 13:41 |
SK_work | zypper in qt5-qtbase-qdbus (or something like that) | 13:41 |
HtheB | let me try it | 13:42 |
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SK_work | HtheB: qdbus com.jolla.lipstick.ConnectionSelector / com.jolla.lipstick.ConnectionSelectorIf.openConnection wlan works | 13:43 |
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stephg_n4 | sledges: will chat later but 95% convinced it's the wlan not 3g | 13:44 |
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sledges | stephg_n4: cool, thanks | 13:46 |
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kaltsi | yay new sdk :) | 13:52 |
SK_work | :):) | 13:53 |
kaltsi | nothing major in it now.. bugfixes and most importantly for the developers, up-to-date build targets | 13:54 |
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coderus | Aard: upgraded to hotfix, what regressions can happen? | 14:01 |
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Aard | coderus: not connecting to networks it used to connect, or dropping out of networks that were fine. on the other hand, this can be exactly the issues it may fix, depending on your setup | 14:02 |
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coderus | Aard: so, if my 3G connects okay and data working, it means hotfix didnt break anything? :) | 14:05 |
Aard | well, use it a bit and see :) | 14:05 |
coderus | Aard: OKAY :) | 14:05 |
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coderus | upgrade sdk or not upgrade? | 14:10 |
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coderus | is there any new features? or just rootstrap updated? | 14:10 |
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kaltsi | check the releasenotes.. not many updates, mainly fixes | 14:10 |
coderus | means if everything works fine for me i can stay with current version :) | 14:11 |
coderus | thanks :) | 14:11 |
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coderus | will upgrade sdk when it will be required :) | 14:12 |
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kaltsi | it's a nice sdk.. shiny and new, worth upgrading 8) | 14:13 |
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kimmoli_sailing_ | yay, rpm crlf fixed | 14:27 |
stephg_n4 | cool kimmoli | 14:28 |
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locusf | sigh | 15:36 |
locusf | do I really have to reopen all of my projects after each update? | 15:37 |
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coderus | kaltsi: just i'm using chroot, you know. rsyncing everything again... ehh... | 15:49 |
coderus | locusf: just remove .pro.user file | 15:50 |
locusf | coderus: from where? | 15:50 |
coderus | it's generated near your project .pro file :) | 15:51 |
locusf | hmm now I didn't have to open up all my files | 15:52 |
locusf | apparently Qt Creator didn't update today | 15:52 |
kaltsi | sure it did | 15:52 |
locusf | oh | 15:52 |
kaltsi | check help/about to see the build date? | 15:52 |
locusf | c0a991f-jolla | 15:52 |
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kaltsi | that's not the date, but seems like the correct git sha :) | 15:53 |
locusf | June 5th at 19:48:10 | 15:53 |
kaltsi | this time we didn't change the config directory, so it read your old settings from under the SailfishAlpha4 dir maybe | 15:53 |
locusf | nice | 15:53 |
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kaltsi | if you had a device configured, you will probably need to remove and re-add it though | 15:53 |
kaltsi | device = phone | 15:54 |
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locusf | ok did so | 15:54 |
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coderus | http://sailfishdev.tumblr.com/post/88580476192/changing-video-recorder-qualtiy-c | 16:32 |
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raa70 | did you mean quality? =) | 16:37 |
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coderus | :D | 17:05 |
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leszek | :P | 17:06 |
coderus | http://sailfishdev.tumblr.com/post/88580476192/changing-video-recorder-quality-c | 17:06 |
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SK_work | coderus: :D | 17:08 |
* marxistvegan keeps failing on the moslo part of the install | 17:10 | |
coderus | marxistvegan: use gparted and repartition manually | 17:11 |
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marxistvegan | coderus: i will try I have to go on a call now, but everytime I flash the zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix it fails to boot | 17:12 |
coderus | is there QR app for sailfish available? Or what is the best QR app for android? | 17:13 |
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marxistvegan | coderus: i get "Boot menu script not found" on boot | 17:16 |
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tortoisedoc | hi all! | 17:18 |
tortoisedoc | Fatal error: File './qt/i486/qt5-qttools-5.1.0+git6-1.5.10.i486.rpm' not found on medium 'http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/jolla/i486/' | 17:18 |
tortoisedoc | seems to happen when trying to install qdbus | 17:18 |
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coderus | marxistvegan: please read ubiboot readme properly and carefully :) | 17:22 |
coderus | tortoisedoc: you need qdbus on emulator? :) | 17:23 |
coderus | tortoisedoc: did you updated repos? | 17:23 |
coderus | special: ping | 17:23 |
tortoisedoc | coderus no, just realized as well that it might be the reason :) | 17:23 |
tortoisedoc | (the repos) | 17:23 |
coderus | special: is there ETA for allowing nemomobile-qml imports? | 17:23 |
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special | coderus: not that I'm aware of. It's mostly a matter of API stability afaik? | 17:25 |
special | which one(s) in particular? | 17:25 |
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coderus | special: thumbnailer, contacts and dbus :) | 17:33 |
special | thumbnailer and dbus just need documentation and polishing, thp is doing some work on dbus | 17:34 |
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special | contacts ..the brisbane guys should comment on; it's a stable API, and some contact data is available to unprivileged applications now, but I don't know details or what the plan for third parties is | 17:34 |
special | "patches welcome"? :p | 17:36 |
coderus | special: i made one patch for contacts :P | 17:36 |
special | I'll file a few more bugs and hopefully we can make things move. I don't have the time and motivation to handle it personally right now | 17:40 |
special | if I don't write more code I'm going to go insane | 17:40 |
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Price15 | quick question if I want to be a part of the Early Adopter, then what must I do? | 17:42 |
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Stskeeps | Price15: msg sledges | 17:43 |
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Price15 | Stskeeps: should I email him? | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | no /query sledges, tell him your email and devices and why you'd like to | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | and name if possible | 17:44 |
tortoisedoc | what's the early adopter? :) | 17:45 |
special | coderus: large piles of emails generated, we'll see what comes of it | 17:47 |
sledges | tortoisedoc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51974871&postcount=250 | 17:48 |
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tortoisedoc | sledges : thanks | 17:51 |
sledges | np | 17:51 |
wixit_ | Can Sailfish OS be installed on HTC Intruder (also known as Aria)? | 17:51 |
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sledges | wixit_: what's the latest android/cyanogen mod for it? | 17:52 |
wixit_ | I have managed to install a Cyanogenmod version of Android 4.1.2 to it , if that helps ... | 17:52 |
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sledges | wixit_: is that officially supported cm for it? | 17:53 |
wixit_ | but its not an official version of CM | 17:53 |
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sledges | there :) | 17:53 |
wixit_ | but it works great without any issues ... | 17:53 |
sledges | congrats on launching it! | 17:53 |
sledges | are kernel/cm sources available for it? | 17:54 |
wixit_ | ? | 17:54 |
wixit_ | It should be ... let me check ... | 17:55 |
wixit_ | this is the model I mentioned - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Aria | 17:55 |
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sledges | wixit_: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Liberty_Info | 17:59 |
sledges | can't see kernel souces.. | 17:59 |
sledges | here: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/htc-kernel-liberty | 18:00 |
sledges | but it's 2.6.29.. | 18:00 |
wixit_ | I got the rom from the XDA developers forum ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-aria/development | 18:01 |
wixit_ | But I can't seem to find the version I installed ... On the plus side, they seem to have experimented with an | 18:01 |
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wixit_ | unofficial CM of Android 4.4.3 | 18:02 |
sledges | wixit_: would this help: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unofficial_Ports#HTC_Aria_.28Liberty_.2F_Gratia.29 ? | 18:02 |
coderus | special: ping me if any help needed. i have a lot of free time to code something :) | 18:04 |
marxistvegan | coderus: you were correct...I was flashing the wrong kernel at the wrong time | 18:05 |
wixit_ | Yeah, I think this was the version I installed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826894 | 18:05 |
Price15 | Why is sailfishos rom flashed on cm and not directly on nexus aosp? | 18:08 |
special | coderus: documentation, API review, and the changes from API review are most relevant, I guess. | 18:09 |
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netzvieh | iekku: did you send out the call for ML-moderators? (I might be blind though ;)) | 18:10 |
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sledges | Price15: because that sailfish port is based on CM | 18:10 |
wixit_ | Any idea when Jolla phones will be launched in India? | 18:11 |
coderus | special: can you point me how to write docs in right format> | 18:11 |
coderus | ? | 18:11 |
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special | coderus: heh. That is kind of undefined, too | 18:16 |
special | qdoc is used in some places, other things are used in others | 18:16 |
wixit_ | If an official CM version exists for a phone, can it be assumed that a SailfishOS port also existsfor it? | 18:17 |
wixit_ | Or that it can be made easily available? | 18:17 |
sledges | sadly wixit we don't support <4.2 android versions :( | 18:18 |
sledges | your cm10 port is 4.1.2 | 18:18 |
coderus | special: i mean at beginning. how do peoples create Qt docs? | 18:19 |
coderus | afaik qdoc is compiled html pages :) | 18:20 |
wixit_ | Yes, mine is 4.1.2, but I was asking in general ... to possible test SailfishOS with other phones ... | 18:20 |
wixit_ | possible = possibly | 18:20 |
coderus | kaltsi: about new SDK. is there possibility to turn on dploying and install debuginfo rpms? ;) | 18:20 |
sledges | wixit_: any phone with >=cm10.1 or >=aosp4.4.2 is a good candidate | 18:21 |
wixit_ | Oh you only support phones that can run versions above Android 4.2? | 18:21 |
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wixit_ | oh ok | 18:21 |
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wixit_ | Well, as you can see there are new unofficial ports for my HTC that run Android > 4.2 ... | 18:22 |
wixit_ | so could that be used? | 18:22 |
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kaltsi | coderus: I forgot about that.. no, other than editing the mb2 script run_deploy function where it copies the packages | 18:22 |
coderus | kaltsi: i'll wait for next update ;) | 18:23 |
wixit_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2737497 | 18:23 |
wixit_ | What are the minimum specs for Sailfish OS to run smoothly? | 18:23 |
sledges | wixit_: great! yet the fact it's not official CM will put hurdles in your way of porting | 18:24 |
sledges | wixit_: have you seen sailfishOS on Nexus One? | 18:24 |
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kaltsi | coderus: :) got to think how to do it nicely.. may or may not end up in next rel | 18:24 |
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wixit_ | No. Actually I have just began exploring alternate OSes for mobile phones ... | 18:25 |
kaltsi | coderus, I made a bug about it for myself | 18:25 |
wixit_ | I had privacy concerns about Google and Android | 18:25 |
sledges | so there ya go, it runs pretty well considered it's a >4yo phone | 18:25 |
tortoisedoc | grrr | 18:25 |
sledges | (nexusone) | 18:25 |
wixit_ | and thus installed C, but I would prefer to completely shift to tizen or sailfish ... or something that is not tied with Google in any way ... :) | 18:26 |
wixit_ | C = CM | 18:26 |
sledges | wixit_: your phone is of similar age so :) i would like to see how kitkat runs on your phone first (you'll have to launch it anyway should you/community decide to port SF to it) | 18:26 |
wixit_ | What are the current phones on which SailfishOS has been successfully ported and runs perfectly? | 18:28 |
netzvieh | wixit_: nope. it runs reasonably well on the nexus 4 (mako) but other than that ... | 18:29 |
coderus | Please beta-test new Mitakuuluu build in one hour: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kyo4tzo7298lkkg/AABuPQvW13PucZCv5Unhl6-Va Connection issues should be fixed. | 18:30 |
netzvieh | not sure what's the status of the sgs3lte build | 18:30 |
wixit_ | hmm ... | 18:30 |
sledges | wixit_: nothing is perfect :) https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 18:30 |
sledges | it actually ran very smoothly on Nexus7 | 18:30 |
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sledges | netzvieh: the lag on mako is actually thanks to Qt, not the hardware, and hopes up to get rid of it ;) | 18:31 |
sledges | (mako=Nexus4) | 18:31 |
wixit_ | on Nexus 7, doesn't SMS / Voice / Data work? | 18:32 |
wixit_ | The wiki page says N/A | 18:33 |
wixit_ | ..? | 18:33 |
raa70 | nexus 7 has only wifi and lte versions | 18:33 |
Waitee | 1st gen nexus 7 has also 3g version | 18:34 |
wixit_ | So with SailfishOS it becomes more like an Ipod? :) | 18:34 |
Waitee | nexus 7 is a tablet | 18:34 |
Waitee | nexus 4 and 5 are phones | 18:34 |
wixit_ | Ah, my mistake! | 18:34 |
Waitee | no problem :) | 18:35 |
wixit_ | Why don't you guys tie up with XDA Developers and get official forum for Sailfish OS too? Involving that community should greatly speed up the porting effort | 18:36 |
wixit_ | on many phones ... | 18:36 |
Waitee | iirc there's actually an area for sailfishos on xda-developers forums | 18:37 |
sledges | given the release of hadk, this will accelerate | 18:37 |
wixit_ | hadk? | 18:37 |
Nc_ | Slightly off-topic: Anyone seen anything noting the max speed on the 4G LTE on the Jolla phones (was playing around with speedtest.net and Proximus LTE) | 18:37 |
sledges | porting manual | 18:37 |
sledges | Nc_: less offtopic on #jollamobile :) | 18:38 |
Nc_ | There are too many IRC channels ;) | 18:38 |
wixit_ | @Waitee: where on xda? | 18:38 |
Waitee | wait, i'll try to find it | 18:38 |
Waitee | wixit_: http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish | 18:39 |
sledges | http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish | 18:39 |
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sledges | lulz :)) | 18:39 |
Waitee | :D | 18:39 |
sledges | we scared them :))) | 18:39 |
sledges | ohnoez :) | 18:39 |
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wixit_ | Ah ok ... | 18:39 |
netzvieh | sledges: well this is the "official support channel", #jollamobile ist just inofficial (and should be prob ##jollamobile) :D | 18:40 |
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wixit_ | Well, thanks for all your time and patience. | 18:41 |
wixit_ | I certainly hope you guys do well. There is definitely a market for you, especially in asia, and hope you will tap it well. | 18:42 |
sledges | netzvieh: interesting point, yet does it support Jolla phone? :) | 18:42 |
sledges | wixit_: thanks! (did you receive xda link btw? :) | 18:42 |
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netzvieh | sledges: well that was said in a meeting ;) but the topic here still states jolla phone -> #jollamobile :D | 18:43 |
wixit_ | Yes, I checked it out ... While I would love to help you guys with your porting effort, I am still a "web" developer and haven't explored | 18:43 |
wixit_ | mobile applications development ... | 18:44 |
sledges | netzvieh: true that :D | 18:44 |
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netzvieh | maybe we could ask Stskeeps if he had time to read up/do something about this ^^ | 18:44 |
wixit_ | got to learn a lot ... | 18:45 |
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wixit_ | Thanks again. Take care. | 18:45 |
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nh1402 | something that i've been curious about is using Dalvik/ART from the CM kernel directly, for the Android compatibility layer, would that be possible?, or is there some licensing thing that comes with that | 18:58 |
tortoisedoc | hmm | 18:59 |
tortoisedoc | quick question | 18:59 |
tortoisedoc | how to disable packaging of .qml files? | 18:59 |
tortoisedoc | i.e. if i place them in .res files instead | 18:59 |
Price15 | I was curious as well, if sailfish is based on CM then what are the conflicts that prevent apk installations. | 19:00 |
tortoisedoc | I do not want them to be deployed on the side of hte exe as well | 19:00 |
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HtheB | Wnt: hi again | 19:10 |
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HtheB | someone replied on my topic at tmo, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93328 | 19:10 |
HtheB | what would be the difference between your command and his? | 19:10 |
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ouafnico | hello | 19:15 |
ouafnico | is someone know if there is a 1.0.7.16 version for Nexus 4 ? | 19:16 |
HtheB | not yet... | 19:16 |
piggz | n9? :D | 19:16 |
ouafnico | do you know when it can be out ? | 19:16 |
HtheB | no | 19:16 |
HtheB | piggz: n9? sure... | 19:16 |
HtheB | :D | 19:17 |
ouafnico | hope it will be soon | 19:17 |
ouafnico | seems to be a good release | 19:17 |
HtheB | ouafnico: why not just BUY a jolla?.. | 19:17 |
ouafnico | because my nexus is not old :s | 19:17 |
HtheB | Sell it? | 19:17 |
vgrade | piggz: I'm working on it but not many hours to spend atm | 19:17 |
piggz | vgrade: really? awesome | 19:18 |
HtheB | by the way, can someone create a package for me? (RPM) | 19:18 |
piggz | i thought everyone had given up! | 19:18 |
ouafnico | yes I know, but I like trying first :) | 19:18 |
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ouafnico | the 1.0.5 is quite good | 19:18 |
HtheB | ouafnico: what I have heard, they will release a special launcher for android | 19:18 |
piggz | vgrade: is the kernel still the bloker? | 19:18 |
kimmoli | HtheB: can you put you nice icon somewhere, it wants to download it as jpg from tmo .. :( | 19:18 |
HtheB | kimmoli: really? I uploaded it as png | 19:19 |
HtheB | can you package it for me kimmoli ? | 19:19 |
kimmoli | rpm | 19:19 |
HtheB | yeah | 19:19 |
kimmoli | i can | 19:19 |
vgrade | piggz: there has been great work in that area, I think I saw some sucess stories on camera and modem from filippz | 19:19 |
HtheB | yaay | 19:19 |
HtheB | let me give you the files | 19:20 |
filippz | vgrade: I saw build log of kernel-adaptation-n950 - I think n9_mer_defconfig is not used, so it errors out | 19:21 |
vgrade | filippz: yea, I've not had time to progress. Just managed to get the webhook working | 19:22 |
vgrade | https://github.com/martinbrook/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9/tree/master/rpm | 19:23 |
filippz | OK, I'm just finishing adding few things to n9_mer_defconfig as reported by mer_verify_kernel_config | 19:23 |
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vgrade | filippz: ok, I'll make a PR once I have the packaging | 19:24 |
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filippz | Great, thanks! I'm off to see THE game now :) | 19:25 |
vgrade | filippz: same here | 19:26 |
* tbr just lost THE game ;) | 19:26 | |
filippz | You'll be cheering for CRO I hope! | 19:27 |
vgrade | filippz: on the fence | 19:28 |
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marxistvegan | coderus: fyi I am completely back up and running harmattan and sailfish | 19:39 |
piggz | vgrade: what version is that kernel? | 19:39 |
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piggz | i really ought to set up a build system for nemo and test this stuff out | 19:40 |
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Nightmare__ | did anyone install the current sdk update on win8? | 19:41 |
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stephg | good evening folks | 19:44 |
Price15 | can someone tell me how to keep the phone on when I am using ssh in developer mode | 19:45 |
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stephg | Price15: what do you mean by keep it on? (also which phone) | 19:46 |
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Price15 | stephg: I am on the nexus 4 EA 2 and I use the ssh to send files and install apps etc. I dont want the device to sleep when transferring | 19:47 |
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stephg | ah, it sleeps somewhat less deeply if it's plugged into USB | 19:48 |
stephg | so that may help, but beyond that at the moment keeping the display on really helps | 19:48 |
Price15 | cool havent had much luck with the USB, so generally try Wifi. I just wish there was an option to keep display on indefinitely | 19:49 |
vgrade | piggz: 3.5.3 | 19:49 |
kimmoli | that is strange, i have no issues using ssh to phone | 19:49 |
stephg | by USB I meant charging (but if you have it plgged intoa computer you may as well transfer that way) | 19:50 |
stephg | kimmoli: the n4 doesn't behave as well as the jolla :( | 19:50 |
kimmoli | aa n4, ofc. | 19:50 |
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stephg | Price15: if you have lots to transfer, go into settings and change the display timeout to 10 mins | 19:52 |
stephg | that will probably set something by dbus and there should be a way to disable it completely but I've not looked | 19:52 |
Price15 | cool. Also ssh wifi doesnt work when connected with usb | 19:54 |
stephg | hm Price15 that doesn't sound right, ssh should work regardless | 19:55 |
stephg | if you can reproduce it, that's a bug :) | 19:55 |
Price15 | well I tried it a couple of times. I have to remove the usb cable only then it connects (using terminal lubuntu) | 19:56 |
stephg | ah so that may be something else | 19:57 |
stephg | so the n4 has the adb-like dhcp daemon running | 19:58 |
stephg | so when you plug the USB in your PC behaves like a DHCP client and gets assigned a 192.168.0/24 address | 19:59 |
Price15 | yup will try and check on other systems as well. But if there is a bug do I report on TJC or somewhere else? | 19:59 |
stephg | whenever that happens on my kubuntu that stops all streams dead (e.g. radio/youtube etc.) | 19:59 |
stephg | report it here, and TJC incase folks miss it | 19:59 |
stephg | I'd test it now but I'm not allowed in the livingroom and want to watch the football online ;) | 20:00 |
Price15 | Not sure how to report bugs, I'm kind of a noob here | 20:00 |
Price15 | cool coo | 20:00 |
stephg | don't be afraid :) | 20:00 |
stephg | everyone here is friendly, say what you've found, they'll ask you questions and help you work it through | 20:01 |
Price15 | okay | 20:01 |
kaltsi | coderus: should I be able to build mitakuuluu2 without changes if I just clone the git repo from github? | 20:01 |
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coderus | kaltsi: no | 20:02 |
coderus | i didnt pushed androidhelper component | 20:02 |
kaltsi | right.. that's what I was wondering about :) | 20:02 |
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coderus | you need to remove it from root pro file to compile | 20:03 |
kaltsi | nod.. btw it seems to be "andriodhelper" | 20:03 |
stephg | Price15: keep playing though; is this your first linux-ish device? | 20:03 |
coderus | kaltsi: this component using dark magic for getting whatsapp account credentials from dalvik whatsapp :) | 20:03 |
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Price15 | stephg: yeah first time with everything linux, irc, opensource, qt even programming language | 20:04 |
juken | hi! i wanna become an early adopter too | 20:05 |
stephg | juken: welcome | 20:05 |
stephg | Price15: but you must have a bit of an interest, I mean you have an n4 and you have a linux desktop | 20:06 |
juken | thanks | 20:06 |
stephg | :) | 20:06 |
coderus | kaltsi: commented this line to make it compile :) | 20:06 |
MSameer | coderus: stop stealing my users :D | 20:06 |
coderus | MSameer: :D | 20:06 |
Price15 | stephg: yup very excited wanted to contribute back to community and fan on Richard stallman. So trying new things taking risks | 20:07 |
juken | may i know what are the android devices supported as of now? | 20:07 |
stephg | Price15: hehe cool, well tinker, and you're in the right place | 20:07 |
kaltsi | coderus: cool :) btw I can't seem to start the build with 'mb2 build' .. I had to run qmake -r manually from sb2 session | 20:07 |
stephg | juken: at the moment only the nexus 4 | 20:08 |
stephg | the S3 4G should be very soon | 20:08 |
stephg | and there are others in the works | 20:08 |
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stephg | juken: the hard work can be seen here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 20:09 |
stephg | juken: what device do you have at hand? | 20:09 |
Skorpy | Hey, are the Silica components yet tweakable in anyway? (would like to tweak flickable a bit) | 20:09 |
juken | i have only note 2 n7100 | 20:10 |
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juken | will this be supported as well? | 20:10 |
stephg | so the way jolla said thing would work was: n4 initially, then i9305 (the S3 4G) | 20:10 |
leszek | Skorpy: they aren't directly but you could ship your own flickable based on the SiliciaFlickable I guess. | 20:11 |
stephg | whilst that was going on, they were going to be working on the Hardware Adaptation Development Kit (HADK) | 20:11 |
juken | i see may i know the specific model of nexus 4 that is supported at the moment? | 20:11 |
Skorpy | leszek: darn. I was hoping I could tweak it system-wide. | 20:11 |
stephg | which would basically be instructions on what's needed to adapt the low-level stuff so Sailfish will run | 20:12 |
leszek | Skorpy: I think you can do this manually if you have developer mode on. You just need to find the qml file for it :) | 20:12 |
stephg | juken: I think any n4? | 20:13 |
leszek | Skorpy: and I guess it should be somewhere on the phone | 20:13 |
stephg | juken: the HADK should be out soon | 20:13 |
* stephg is just community so doesn't know | 20:13 | |
juken | can you give the instructions on how to install it? i will look for nexus 4 here hehehe | 20:14 |
Skorpy | leszek: yeah, I'm trying to find them, but I quess they're hidden like the lipstick specific were first | 20:14 |
stephg | juken: looking, one sec | 20:15 |
juken | ok im waiting | 20:15 |
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stephg | juken: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/sailfish-os-progress-nexus-4-t2667622 | 20:17 |
kaltsi | coderus: the mitakuuluu2 specfile does not have the %qtc_qmake5 macro before %qtc_make which means that it can't be built with mb2.. qmake is never called | 20:17 |
juken | thanks a lot | 20:17 |
stephg | does your note 2 have a cyanogenmod 10.1 port? | 20:17 |
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juken | yeah there is | 20:19 |
kaltsi | coderus: one more thing.. the spec file wants to install bindir/harbour-mitakuuluu2-helper but that binary is never built | 20:19 |
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kaltsi | but if this is not meant to be an buildable-to-rpm project, then no prob :) | 20:20 |
juken | will it be possible to install it on my note 2 if i run cyanogenmod? | 20:21 |
Price15 | stephg: bro thanks for all the help. I am going to get some sleep. | 20:22 |
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stephg | g'night Price15 | 20:22 |
coderus | kaltsi: thats helper is a part of androidhelper... | 20:22 |
coderus | kaltsi: any ideas how to disable it without breaking my builds? :) | 20:23 |
coderus | kaltsi: and what about %qtc_qmake5 ? how qtc builds then? its not using mb2? | 20:23 |
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kaltsi | coderus: hmm you're missing that line, it's required.. qtc does use mb2 and this project does not build in my qtc or from command line with mb2 | 20:24 |
juken | will it be possible to install it on my note 2 if i run cyanogenmod? | 20:24 |
kaltsi | if you haven't done a git clean -xdf in your source tree, then maybe you could try it (but be careful if you have any uncommitted files) | 20:24 |
coderus | kaltsi: i'm building it with qtc every time and its fine for me :) | 20:24 |
stephg | juken: eventually, but it'll require work I'm afraid | 20:24 |
kaltsi | coderus: I suspect that you have a Makefile there? | 20:24 |
coderus | kaltsi: no | 20:25 |
kaltsi | umm.. well how would it build without a makefile? | 20:25 |
coderus | kaltsi: i can remove whole shadow build dir and successully compile project | 20:25 |
stephg | juken: I don't know how much, we're waiting for the HADK | 20:25 |
juken | i see | 20:25 |
kaltsi | coderus: but believe me, I know the sdk, and I know how to clone a git repo.. this does not build :) | 20:25 |
kaltsi | if you want to check.. clone it to some other directory for yourself | 20:26 |
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coderus | kaltsi: doing it now :) | 20:28 |
juken | nexus 4 with 8gb rom is supported right? | 20:28 |
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coderus | kaltsi: interesting. it doesnt compiled :) | 20:30 |
stephg | juken yes, I don't think there are differences | 20:30 |
coderus | just add that %qtc_qmake5 before %qtc_qmake ? | 20:30 |
kaltsi | coderus, yep | 20:30 |
kaltsi | that makes it call qmake which creates the Makefile which is used by %qtc_make | 20:30 |
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coderus | kaltsi: how i did compiled it before then :D | 20:31 |
coderus | kaltsi: always used qtc | 20:31 |
kaltsi | coderus: is it possible that something in the missing android thingy adds something? | 20:31 |
kaltsi | or perhaps you did have a Makefile lying around somewhere | 20:31 |
coderus | kaltsi: adds %qtc_qmake5 to spec? :D | 20:32 |
kaltsi | :) | 20:32 |
coderus | no it just compiling one binary | 20:32 |
juken | i see thanks a lot for your help stephg i'll go too sleep now. thanks and God bless | 20:32 |
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coderus | kaltsi: having %attr(4755, root, root) %{_bindir} in spec is okay | 20:32 |
coderus | ? | 20:32 |
kaltsi | yes | 20:32 |
kaltsi | hmm or wait.. what's the 4 there? :p | 20:32 |
coderus | setuid | 20:33 |
kaltsi | right.. I think there was some harbour rule against that | 20:33 |
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coderus | its not for harbour, you know :) | 20:33 |
kaltsi | specfile ok, harbour not :) | 20:33 |
coderus | kaltsi: commited, thanks | 20:35 |
kaltsi | yw | 20:35 |
kaltsi | I'm trying to think how to make the -helper optional | 20:36 |
kimmoli | packaged internet connection shortcut thing by HtheB - get it here https://openrepos.net/content/htheb/connect-internet | 20:36 |
coderus | i'm using setuid nemo setgid privileged for binaries, it works with invoker without setuid bit, only androidhelper using setuid 0 for dark magic :) | 20:36 |
coderus | kaltsi: i just commented out helper from pro | 20:36 |
kaltsi | ah | 20:36 |
HtheB | kimmoli: this should be actually set as default for Sailfish OS like Harmattan and Fremantle has.... | 20:36 |
coderus | commited it by mistake, ot wanted to publish it sources, i dont remember i tnow | 20:37 |
coderus | but i dont want to publish it sources for now, while it working :D | 20:37 |
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coderus | dont want to force whatsapp to change aes keys. it's so hard to hack this obfucsated classes to find it | 20:38 |
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iekku | nezticle, unfortunately not yet. i hope it's first thing tomorrow morning. | 20:41 |
kaltsi | coderus: I can confirm it builds now without changes :) | 20:44 |
kaltsi | coderus: but change the 4755 bindir line to: | 20:45 |
kaltsi | %attr(4755, root, root) %{_bindir}/* | 20:45 |
kaltsi | now without the /* the package claims to own /usr/bin and wants to put suid bit on the directory too | 20:46 |
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coderus | :D | 20:48 |
kaltsi | btw starting from today libdl is an allowed dependency in harbour.. in case someone is bundling that with their package | 20:49 |
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coderus | what is libdl? :D | 20:50 |
coderus | ah, ld :D | 20:51 |
kaltsi | basic glibc provided library, which provides dlopen() and dlsym() for dynamically opening libs from your code | 20:51 |
coderus | stupid me :D | 20:51 |
coderus | aha, got it, thanks :D | 20:52 |
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wazd | check, one two | 20:53 |
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stephg | vgrade (if you're still here) how's youre n5? | 20:54 |
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marxistvegan | coderus: one issue...after install I cannot install the openrepos.net warehouse it tells me aegis rejecting and I am not sure the notes on that | 21:01 |
marxistvegan | though I have n9 tweaks installed and working | 21:01 |
marxistvegan | i did the Inception removal and added coderus-aegis | 21:01 |
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coderus | marxistvegan: i think you choosed wrong channel for asking :) | 21:17 |
coderus | try #harmattan | 21:17 |
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coderus | kaltsi: can i do sync sdk -> qtc manually cnd check it progress? | 21:26 |
kaltsi | that's in the sdk-manage script where it calls rsync and it doesn't give the verbose option, so no progress.. otherwise there would be "too much" progress, since there are so many files :) | 21:27 |
coderus | rsync have no small verbose options? like percentage or so? | 21:28 |
kaltsi | /usr/bin/sdk-manage --target --sync <name> | 21:28 |
coderus | kaltsi: i just did zypper ref && zypper up in sb2 ... let's see what happens :D | 21:28 |
kaltsi | hmm if it has a small verbose option I'd be interested in that too | 21:28 |
jokke_ | hey is there any reasonable tutorial to get up to speed with the app development? | 21:30 |
coderus | jokke_: what you want to acheve? | 21:30 |
jokke_ | I'm really python guy and backend/middleware dude, so I'm having hard time to get a grasp of the QML/C++ interactions etc. | 21:31 |
coderus | so, what is the stop-factor for you? | 21:32 |
jokke_ | coderus: Was planning to do something simple interacting with network to get understanding of the lifecycle. My ultimate goal is to write a controller app for my home automation system | 21:32 |
coderus | with python you should yse PyOtherSide QML bindings | 21:33 |
jokke_ | coderus: pretty much really get the data flowing a) from user interactions to the C++ code and ofc the responses back ... So if I write a function into the C++ sources do I need to do some black magic to access it or can I just call it from the QML side? | 21:33 |
Morpog_Jolla_ | jokke_: you could like www.qmlbook.com | 21:34 |
coderus | jokke_: the best way is registering C++ types to qml with qmlRegisterType | 21:35 |
coderus | jokke_: then you'll just create MyNewClass { id: test123 } | 21:35 |
coderus | jokke_: and then test123.call123() will execute your call123 from C++ | 21:35 |
jokke_ | ok cool | 21:35 |
coderus | receiving signals is just onSignal: { // do something } | 21:36 |
jokke_ | Morpog_Jolla_: will have a look on that, thanks! | 21:36 |
coderus | jokke_: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtqml-index.html | 21:37 |
jokke_ | coderus: cheers ... that looks like it should get me started (and that PyOtherSide might be just what I needed to get comfy) :) | 21:37 |
coderus | jokke_: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-topic.html | 21:37 |
jokke_ | Thanks guys ... I think this just got me over my plank page syndrome. Just didn't know where to start from | 21:38 |
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jokke_ | Morpog_Jolla_: the www.qmlbook.com does not look of too much ... just site construction placeholder | 21:40 |
Morpog_Jolla_ | oh :( | 21:40 |
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Morpog_Jolla_ | jokke_: gpodder is an app using pyotherside btw | 21:41 |
jokke_ | ok | 21:42 |
coderus | jokke_: first you should decide: python or C++ as backend :) | 21:47 |
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jokke_ | coderus: actually one more question before going that far ... what's the dependency policy ... as in if I go for python can I just put like stuff from the pypi as dependency and get them installed, do I need to bndle all I need into the rpm or what's the deal? | 21:49 |
jokke_ | because if pypi is fair game, I have no problem to decide :D | 21:49 |
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coderus | jokke_: you can check if it available in repos | 21:50 |
fzk | o.o | 21:50 |
HtheB | damn | 21:50 |
coderus | jokke_: but afaik no pypi | 21:50 |
* HtheB looks to WC14 | 21:50 | |
coderus | jokke_: only generic components are there. you need to bundle all stuff you need | 21:51 |
fzk | HtheB: and im only looking at berget 12 :( | 21:52 |
fzk | b12>wc14 | 21:52 |
fzk | ;-) | 21:52 |
HtheB | lol :P | 21:52 |
piggz_ | time for zzzzz | 21:53 |
HtheB | if it was b12>wc14, then you wouldn't be the only one looking at it :) | 21:53 |
fzk | im glad wc14 is going to be at the same time, lots of enemy troops are gonna watch football instead so my team gets more time for infiltration | 21:53 |
HtheB | :D | 21:54 |
fzk | i just wonder how they are gonna act if i walk into their camp and say to their general "knife-kill" | 21:55 |
jokke_ | coderus: thanks ... is it mer project repos I should be looking for stuff I want to utilize? | 21:55 |
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coderus | jokke_: yes | 21:56 |
jokke_ | cool | 21:57 |
coderus | jokke_: you can just open SDK Control Center in QtCreator and search packages there | 21:57 |
jokke_ | sweet | 21:59 |
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coderus | special: thanks for pointing me. added keepalive stuff. will test how it works in real life :D | 22:04 |
coderus | special: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/commit/55dac98e1952c844ae1e7e83ce21f1e71bfa4b1c | 22:04 |
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coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.0 can record and send video messages now! DL: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu LOG: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.8.0 | 22:56 |
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sledges | coderus: \o/ | 23:58 |
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