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| lpotter | i suppose I should update my sdk... | 08:07 |
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| scharel | I already did :) | 08:18 |
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| faenil | morning o/ | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | morn faenil | 08:25 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, sup :) | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | not much .. just ordered a wifi dev board for my roomba | 08:26 |
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| coderus | can anyone ban fk_lx from piratepad at http://piratepad.net/sailfish-community-guidelines ? | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | it's a public etherpad | 08:45 |
| coderus | so everybody can crap in it? | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | well, piratepad is hosted by the pirate party | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | so, they're quite big on non-regulation/freedom of information/etc | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | if there's abuse happening on an important topic, let's bring it up on mailing list and see if there's a better method | 08:47 |
| coderus | so, you mean i can just delete his lines from piratepad and it will be okay for everyone? | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | i don't personally see a problem if there's a good reason for it -- piratepad comes with a time slider too; take the wikipedia approach, if something is hassling the process, you edit it out | 08:48 |
| coderus | so you ok with fk_lx additions to piratepad? | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | i don't think cybette or iekku are around currently, but i can volunteer merproject wiki if you guys want to do some editing there | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | no, i meant, i don't see a problem that you delete | 08:49 |
| coderus | ok, i'll delete it then and take personal responsibility. And you can point at me if anyone ask who and why deleted fk_lx from piratepad, right? | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | i don't like when figuratively, there's people building nice sandcastles and then people coming to kick them down | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: :nod: i wouldn't be surprised if he re-adds it though | 08:51 |
| coderus | I will not be difficult to remove it again and again | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | cybette: iekku: ^ might be better to utilize a wiki next time around | 08:52 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | he must have serious menthal problems | 08:54 |
| kimmoli | noooooooooooooooooooooooo | 08:54 |
| * Morpog_PC__ hopes he doesn't egt sued now | 08:54 | |
| Stskeeps | anyway | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | an etherpad has a time slider | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | you can always seek back before any edit wars has started | 08:55 |
| Morpog_PC__ | Stskeeps, he adds it again and again | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | shame | 08:55 |
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| Stskeeps | i'll refer to https://imgur.com/gallery/5nClv for this; but gut feeling tells me to take last version before edit wars + perhaps take; post it on sailfish-devel, suggest that we move edits to a wiki as it's more complete now, and to prevent such things in the future. | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | er, perhaps take it with markup (export) | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | what do you guys think? | 08:59 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | sounds like a good idea | 08:59 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | we can just loose there, as he seems to invest all his free time into his little war. And he seems to have alot of free time. | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | because frankly speaking, we all have something better to do (work on good community guidelines) than participate in edit wars with malicious content.. | 09:00 |
| cybette | ugh, this woke me up https://twitter.com/fk_lx/status/477728846578737153 and when i looked at piratepad it's like wtf | 09:00 |
| cybette | Stskeeps: yes please go ahead and do that | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 09:01 |
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| coderus | http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/sailfish-community-guidelines/rev.897 | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | thanks,, trying to get at it | 09:04 |
| iekku | o think i will remove those | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | well, not going to help | 09:06 |
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| iekku | hmm, true | 09:06 |
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| cybette | yeah coderus has been doing his best (thanks!) but it's pretty futile at this point | 09:07 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, +1 for your proposal | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | OK, https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-June/004558.html | 09:11 |
| coderus | fk_lx still reading mailing lists :D | 09:11 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | he is obsessed | 09:13 |
| locusf | beyond obsessed | 09:13 |
| locusf | he didn't get the attention he wanted on twitter so he moved it here | 09:13 |
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| Stskeeps | well, at least i know i'll be enjoying today: ikea swedish meatballs coming up.. | 09:17 |
| Morpog_PC__ | urghs :) | 09:17 |
| Morpog_PC__ | I prefer the hot dogs there | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | they're good too :P | 09:17 |
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| Stskeeps | but anyway: if there's abusive content on any internet site, anybody breaching ToS, use the report post button | 09:18 |
| faenil | Ikea opened a new shop just a few months ago in Pisa, never been there yet...but I'll follow your advices about food :D | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | it's how most internet sites self-regulates | 09:18 |
| Morpog_PC__ | faenil, I eat there an hot dog everytime. Even if I'm not hungry at all :D | 09:19 |
| faenil | :D | 09:19 |
| Morpog_PC__ | they are just 1€ and you can add toppings as you like by yourself | 09:20 |
| faenil | cool! | 09:20 |
| cybette | now I want to go to Ikea! | 09:21 |
| Morpog_PC__ | :D | 09:21 |
| scharel | i think i need to go to ikea, i strongly need new ... ehm ... tea lights :D | 09:22 |
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| Guest57013 | first and last rule of the internet: don't feed the troll | 09:26 |
| scharel | no ikea hotdogs for trolls | 09:29 |
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| coderus | i have no IEKA in my city :D | 09:34 |
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| faenil | coderus, you have fiber, shut up :p | 09:35 |
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| coderus | no, i have just a cable :D | 09:39 |
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| kimmoli | i prefer biltema but they dont have hotdogs :( | 09:43 |
| tbr | around here biltema is next to ikea. problem solved. | 09:44 |
| matrixx | is there somewhere a list of qt modules which are accepted to PkgConfigBR: | 09:45 |
| matrixx | (targeting harbour) | 09:46 |
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| matrixx | or is the syntax following, if I'm adding QtMultimedia 5 to qml, I should add Qt5Multimedia to PkgConfigBR? | 09:48 |
| coderus | matrixx: initially you can not add essential packages available by default in os | 09:49 |
| coderus | matrixx: but at the other side you should list all dependencies, but you not adding homescreen, launcher, network and etc. dependencies, right? | 09:50 |
| lbt | tbr: fixing sfos 1.0.7.16 now | 09:50 |
| matrixx | coderus: nope, just multimedia so far | 09:50 |
| coderus | so, it wont hurt if you add it or not if it will work on fresh clean device with automatic resolving dependencies | 09:50 |
| matrixx | cool | 09:50 |
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| tbr | lbt: great | 09:55 |
| lbt | and ... test builds complete | 09:56 |
| lbt | https://build.merproject.org/project/show/sailfishos:chum:1.0.7.16:testing | 09:57 |
| tbr | \o/ | 09:57 |
| lbt | want to try your new copypac script? | 09:57 |
| tbr | don't have that ready, will probably be lazy and just copy the 10 packages or so through web | 09:57 |
| lbt | nb there is a copyprj - I'm not convinced it works though so I suggest talking to islam before using it | 09:58 |
| tbr | :) | 09:58 |
| lbt | tbr: I meant Stskeeps' osc ls | xargs | 09:58 |
| lbt | I'll help tidy up if it breaks | 09:58 |
| tbr | well it doesn't hurt to try | 09:58 |
| tbr | let me get to that right now | 09:58 |
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| tbr | lbt / Stskeeps - worked just fine, I'd say :) | 10:09 |
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| * tbr tosses caldav, as that's now shipping | 10:11 | |
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| lbt | tbr: nice | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: \o/ | 10:17 |
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| tbr | and everything still builds, that's good | 10:24 |
| tbr | so, floor is open for people to test those, so that we can move them to chum proper | 10:24 |
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| artemma | Created a new directory in "projects". Interesting this time it is about porting from SailfishOS to Android, not the other way around :) | 11:37 |
| artemma | possibly will end up with some code shared between Sailfish and Android, possibly not | 11:38 |
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| artemma | Out of curiosity (I don't really know Sailfish that much), why is a particular slow app able to freeze system UI? | 12:00 |
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| artemma | Shouldn't apps be running in some sandboxes with some resources guaranteed to be given to UI? | 12:00 |
| coderus | artemma: because of memory consumption i suppose | 12:00 |
| coderus | there are no other reason i see | 12:00 |
| artemma | So that you wpuld be able to e.g. swipe the frozen app out to task manager | 12:00 |
| artemma | memory consumption? | 12:01 |
| coderus | sure if it load 500MB to memory system apps will be slowed or frozen until OOM does not kill them :) | 12:01 |
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| coderus | but its very rare case and in most cases apps are stuck itself and you can always kill it. | 12:02 |
| artemma | hmm, take freezes on network reconnection. I don't think it eats that much mem in that case. Shouldn't that be isolated from the UI level? | 12:02 |
| artemma | Also I am running lighthouse quite often nowadays, even in case of freezes even 90% of mem are rarely used | 12:03 |
| coderus | check journal when its happening | 12:04 |
| artemma | maybe will do next time | 12:05 |
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| Stskeeps | mmm, ikea hotdogs | 13:45 |
| Sviox | What's the recommended way to install local .rpm package on device? I transfered it via Bluetooth but clicking the transfer ready notification did nothing.. Do I really need to get a separate file browsing or similar app to do this (graphically)? Or are the transfers listed somewhere were an installation can be initialized from? | 13:47 |
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| Stskeeps | developer mode? | 13:48 |
| Sviox | yes | 13:48 |
| coderus | Sviox: it SHOULD open installation dialog afaik | 13:49 |
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| Sviox | Right.. and where can I see the transfer later? | 13:50 |
| Sviox | I know it's on Documents folder (checked via SSH), but it's not listed anywhere I know of on UI | 13:50 |
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| Sviox | Whoa, File Browser app from store seems to not only start the install but also show contents of the rpm. | 13:53 |
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| Stskeeps | fancy | 13:53 |
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| Sviox | By the way, how can I run lupdate to update my translation file template with SDK installed on Windows? | 13:56 |
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| Stskeeps | you should be able to do that in the sdk build vm without issue | 13:57 |
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| Sviox | Stskeeps: but how? SSH the build machine? Where does the build process put the files? | 13:58 |
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| Stskeeps | Sviox: yeah, for example | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | .. i'm not really a SDK expert, just giving hunches | 14:00 |
| kaltsi | Sviox: if you're creating a libsailfishapp based app, it already automatically runs lupdate.. if not, you can take a look at how it does that or you could buildrequire it and just use its translation part | 14:00 |
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| kaltsi | Sviox: the default sailfish 'new project' is a libsailfishapp project .. in pro file CONFIG += sailfishapp_i18n | 14:01 |
| kaltsi | sources here https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/libsailfishapp | 14:01 |
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| Sviox | kaltsi: thanks, I'll check that out | 14:04 |
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| kaltsi | np.. the default sailfish project has the german translation included as an example | 14:05 |
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| * tbr mumbles something about pkcon going into an endless loop if untrusted software is not allowed | 14:08 | |
| tbr | lbt / Stskeeps | 14:08 |
| tbr | actually that didn't fix it, wtf | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: uhh. | 14:08 |
| * tbr has a suspicion | 14:09 | |
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| tbr | ok, it was a wrong url in one of the repos | 14:11 |
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| * tbr thinks this is kinda bad... | 14:11 | |
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| tbr | shouldn't pkcon just ignore a repo if it doesn't answer and proceed with the rest? instead of bombing out completely mid refresh, leaving pkcon to do such things: http://pastebin.com/0iWrjxnR | 14:12 |
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| Stskeeps | uhh | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | that's unexpected | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: i'll send a mail to myself; will pass people onto it | 14:13 |
| Sviox | Tried adding CONFIG += sailfishapp_i18n_idbased, but nothing happened on recompile | 14:13 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: tnx | 14:13 |
| Sviox | it should create translations directory? | 14:13 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: the problem was that the url for "chum" is 404 as it doesn't have any packages, yet. | 14:14 |
| kaltsi | Sviox: it expects to find the translations in a specific directory and then you also need to specify the TRANSLATIONS in your pro file | 14:14 |
| kaltsi | like this: TRANSLATIONS += translations/untitled4-de.ts | 14:14 |
| Sviox | Right.. ok. Seems I haven't integrated that part from my old Harmattan project file | 14:15 |
| kaltsi | Sviox: the default project has a translations directory with projectname.ts (the template) and then projectname-XX.ts for each translation XX = the language code.. it's known to work with that directory structure | 14:18 |
| Sviox | No luck after adding those things to my pro file | 14:22 |
| kaltsi | hm.. perhaps you want to do the lupdate manually over ssh then like stskeeps originally suggested | 14:24 |
| kaltsi | once you've ssh'd to the MerSDK build machine, your home directory is mounted there to /home/mersdk/share/ and you should be able to find your source files via that path | 14:25 |
| kaltsi | then once you've found them and you know how to run lupdate, you should run it like this: sb2 -t SailifshOS-armv7hl lupdate OPTIONS | 14:26 |
| kaltsi | OPTIONS being the required lupdate options | 14:26 |
| kaltsi | but I imagine you could adapt that sailfishapp_i18n based approach to your own code if you want to.. perhaps your project structure doesn't work with it as-is. It's made for a really simple project tree. | 14:28 |
| Sviox | I originally used a template project from January, where I can see that the translations thing was not included yet | 14:29 |
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| kaltsi | nod, it was added in 1404 sdk and improved in 1406 | 14:30 |
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| tbr | quickly went through the motions with Mosh, now in chum7 | 14:33 |
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| Stskeeps | woo | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | i wonder if we could make mosh more sailfish-aware | 14:33 |
| tbr | yeah, I think putting the logic into fingerterm would be the right move | 14:34 |
| tbr | you could just send control sequences to the process from fingerterm when it's going into BG and coming back | 14:35 |
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| tbr | that way the chatty UDP stream would go away, which is a total battery killer | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | even increasing timeout to 30 second or something | 14:36 |
| tbr | someone here had a custom button for that already as an added config | 14:36 |
| tbr | also fine tuning the mosh default parameters for a mobile phone case might be worthwile | 14:37 |
| matrixx | moar questions, I'm trying to load translation for my app, but QLocale::system().name() prints "C" | 14:37 |
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| Stskeeps | matrixx: did you ssh in or run it from the launcher | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: enjoy! | 14:38 |
| matrixx | Stskeeps: running from qtcreator | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | matrixx: try from launcher; something is off with running over ssh | 14:38 |
| matrixx | Stskeeps: oh, ok | 14:38 |
| matrixx | Stskeeps: yey, seems to work that way :) | 14:39 |
| matrixx | Stskeeps: thanks | 14:39 |
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| icanprogram | Hey, quick question. I'm trying out the new release on my N4. How long does the first boot usually take? Everything is flashed in the correct order but it's been hanging on the (Google) boot screen for way too long now. | 14:42 |
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| Stskeeps | which of the releases? | 14:44 |
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| Stskeeps | if it hangs, it probably isn't working :) | 14:44 |
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| lbt | did you reflash all the way back to the correct factory image ? | 14:45 |
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| icanprogram | Let me check the exact version | 14:49 |
| icanprogram | And yes, I started with Android 4.2.2, then CM, then Sailfish | 14:49 |
| icanprogram | I've tried 1.0.4.20 (which I got working in the past) and 1.0.5.16 | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | what zip files? | 14:50 |
| icanprogram | sailfishos-mako-release-1.0.4.20-EA1.zip | 14:50 |
| icanprogram | sailfishos-mako-release-1.0.5.16-EA2.zip | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so EA2 | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | CM10.1, right | 14:50 |
| icanprogram | Let me double check | 14:51 |
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| icanprogram | Doh, I picked 10.2.1 | 14:51 |
| icanprogram | So that's probably it | 14:51 |
| icanprogram | Thanks for the sanity check, I'm going to try again | 14:51 |
| lbt | the moment of <silence> was awesome :) | 14:51 |
| icanprogram | hehe | 14:51 |
| * artemma wonders if you could dual boot to SailfishOS and Android on same device. Thinking of getting a new company phone, but I will have to run Android on it as well | 14:52 | |
| artemma | as it is to be an android development station as well | 14:52 |
| lbt | sfos and cm, yes | 14:52 |
| icanprogram | Oh really? | 14:52 |
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| lbt | he said "can" - as in "possible" | 14:53 |
| icanprogram | Ah :P | 14:53 |
| lbt | the main thing is to get the right patches to support kexec device reset | 14:53 |
| lbt | and then play with some cm multiboot thing | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | or just replace boot imag.e. | 14:54 |
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| icanprogram | ok there we go again, flashing 4.2.2 to be sure | 14:54 |
| artemma | good to know | 14:54 |
| icanprogram | My fastboot has been weird today... Keeps on hanging on the commands | 14:54 |
| * artemma is not going to try before stable Sailfish on Android anyway, but nice to know that option exists | 14:54 | |
| lbt | and I personally think flashing one boot.img to recovery should work | 14:55 |
| lbt | but I could be wrong | 14:55 |
| lbt | anyhow ... exim | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 14:55 |
| icanprogram | ok, this is a new screen, I've never seen download mode before lol | 14:55 |
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| icanprogram | okay, time to reboot after flashing on top of cm 10.1, wish me luck | 15:26 |
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| icanprogram | whoohoo | 15:27 |
| icanprogram | thanks Stskeeps that was it | 15:27 |
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| Venemo | hey guys | 15:29 |
| Sviox | kaltsi: using sailfishapp_i18n it creates/updates the .ts files inside the SDK right? How does it copy them back to host machine? | 15:30 |
| Sviox | Or anyone else know how it does it? | 15:35 |
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| louisdk | Lately I have to start ssh manually by running "systemctl start sshd.service" as root after enabling dev mode. It strangely fails to start on its own | 15:40 |
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| kaltsi | Sviox: it creates the files in your project folder, which is on your host machine | 15:44 |
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| kaltsi | louisdk: ssh service is triggered when you try to ssh into the phone.. it's not running all the time and you should not have to start it like that | 15:45 |
| icanprogram | Nice, calling works | 15:50 |
| Sviox | Yes but how? Clearly qmake is ran on the SDK virtual machine right? | 15:51 |
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| louisdk | kaltsi, it's strange to me too. Logs: http://pastebin.com/5rCK20Re | 15:52 |
| kaltsi | Sviox: yes but your host machine's directory is mounted as a shared mount inside the virtual machine | 15:52 |
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| icanprogram | Now, the only thing that I need to make this useable on the day to day is removing that brightly colored banner :P | 15:53 |
| icanprogram | Can someone point me to a way to disable that or a N4 build with that turned off? | 15:54 |
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| Sviox | Aa, so that's the trick | 15:55 |
| tbr | banner? | 15:55 |
| icanprogram | The "SailfishOS development software, this is not production quality" banner | 15:56 |
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| kaltsi | louisdk: what's the problem you're seeing or what makes you want to start sshd manually? | 15:57 |
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| kaltsi | louisdk: it's not supposed to be running and you're not supposed to start it manually in normal operation .. there's a systemd socket listener that starts it when someone tries to login with ssh.. it's the sshd@.service or the sshd.socket service file under /lib/systemd/system/ | 15:58 |
| tbr | icanprogram: I'd wait for the next image. They come out right after an sailfishos update, so should be soon. | 15:59 |
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| icanprogram | tbr, next image? | 16:00 |
| icanprogram | Do they usually remove the banner in the following image? | 16:00 |
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| tbr | icanprogram: no idea, but why spend time now if the next one is around the corner? | 16:02 |
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| icanprogram | I thought this one was pretty fresh already | 16:02 |
| icanprogram | Or is this not the recent big update yet | 16:03 |
| kaltsi | louisdk: oh sorry now I read your log more carefully.. so nemo login failed for you | 16:03 |
| kaltsi | louisdk: did you also set a password and enable the ssh connections in developer mode settings? | 16:04 |
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| MSameer | icanprogram: please don't try to disable or remove that banner | 16:05 |
| MSameer | and no I don't know how to do it | 16:05 |
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| louisdk | kaltsi, the problem is that if I want to ssh to my Jolla I get "ssh: connect to host louis-jolla port 22: Connection refused" until I start sshd.service manually on my Jolla. | 16:06 |
| louisdk | kaltsi, yes I did set a password, but I'll not get asked (Connection refused) before starting sshd.service manually and then I get asked for a password which works. | 16:09 |
| icanprogram | MSameer, why do you say that? | 16:10 |
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| MSameer | icanprogram: it was put there for a reason to show that the SW quality is not perfect. It will be removed when the quality of the SW is good enough | 16:10 |
| icanprogram | I'm not looking to redistribute it without the banner | 16:11 |
| MSameer | icanprogram: if it gets removed with bad quality SW then it starts to hurt jolla | 16:11 |
| icanprogram | I know it's not perfect, I just want to turn it off for me | 16:11 |
| icanprogram | Since I've read and understood the banner | 16:11 |
| MSameer | you did but any screenshots or videos you publish will be viewed by people who do not know | 16:11 |
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| louisdk | kaltsi, output on my Jolla: http://pastebin.com/0zZHysEa - when I get "connection refused" trying to ssh from my laptop | 16:14 |
| MSameer | icanprogram: if you hand the phone to someone else to try it then he will not understand too so better to leave the banner IMHO | 16:16 |
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| icanprogram | MSameer, I don't agree, I think people that are interested in trying out the work-in-progress version care enough not to go spread FUD | 16:19 |
| icanprogram | But let's leave it at that | 16:19 |
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| MSameer | icanprogram: it's not my decision anyway so I can't do much but let's agree on stopping :) | 16:23 |
| icanprogram | The banner looks a bit more subtle in this version anyway :P | 16:23 |
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| MSameer | icanprogram: i don't even know how it looks like :P | 16:26 |
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| icanprogram | Ah then you simple don't understand now annoying it is :p | 16:27 |
| icanprogram | On every screen, there's a banner in the background that covers the full screen width and about 15% of the height | 16:27 |
| MSameer | icanprogram: maybe then it should be a bit smaller | 16:29 |
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| icanprogram | see, now we're talking :p | 16:29 |
| MSameer | you started talking in facts :D | 16:29 |
| MSameer | Stskeeps: ^^^ | 16:29 |
| icanprogram | I assumed everyone here was running a development version of Sailfish :p | 16:30 |
| icanprogram | Hey, do I need to do some special step to enable 3rd party software? I can't turn on the option :/ | 16:30 |
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| artemma | Anybody here knows smthing about the paid apps plans? Or at least abt when developers could see how many ppl actually use their apps? | 16:31 |
| icanprogram | nevermind, I just installed the package I wanted using the terminal :p | 16:35 |
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| Stskeeps | MSameer: i wouldn't worry so much, we've removed it in next version :) | 16:54 |
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| Stskeeps | MSameer: it happens by accident when people install other apps i think | 16:58 |
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| icanprogram | So Stskeeps, are you with the team? | 17:21 |
| Sviox | Is there a clean way to change language in the emulator? | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | icanprogram: i usually spam people, yes | 17:22 |
| icanprogram | Well congratulations on everything and thanks for the hard work to everyone then :) | 17:23 |
| icanprogram | I haven't used a Jolla phone, but the N4 port of Sailfish is pretty close to being usable in the day-to-day | 17:24 |
| icanprogram | Last time I used it I had a lot of trouble, but I'm definitely going to try rocking this for a few days | 17:24 |
| Nicd- | whoa, new SDK! | 17:28 |
| Nicd- | I didn't even notice that | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | icanprogram: cool, good luck - let me know what problems it has | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | icanprogram: next image will come soon | 17:28 |
| icanprogram | Right now I'm just getting used to the UI, it's kind of a big transition coming from kitkat | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | can imagine | 17:29 |
| icanprogram | And I'm trying to get some screenshots working with fbcat | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | how much did the tutorial teach you? | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. that's a little more problematic | 17:29 |
| icanprogram | To be honest I went through it too fast | 17:29 |
| icanprogram | I thought I retained it from last time I tried it | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 17:30 |
| icanprogram | And most of the gestures are a bit awkward when you're docked | 17:30 |
| icanprogram | But I managed to install Harbour, got Whatsapp working | 17:30 |
| icanprogram | Email and Hangouts works too | 17:30 |
| icanprogram | So that's enough to get me through a couple of days | 17:31 |
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| Nicd- | dammit! | 17:42 |
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| Nicd- | Execution failed(Unexpected exit code: 1): "/usr/bin/VBoxManage createvm --name MerSDK --register --basefolder /Users/nicd/SailfishOS/mersdk" | 17:43 |
| Nicd- | this stuff again | 17:43 |
| Nicd- | because "Machine settings file '/Users/nicd/SailfishOS/mersdk/MerSDK/MerSDK.vbox' already exists" | 17:43 |
| Nicd- | same with emulator vbox | 17:45 |
| Nicd- | I think the install script should check for this | 17:45 |
| MSameer | icanprogram: no need for fbcat. there are a bunch of screenshot apps available | 17:47 |
| MSameer | icanprogram: and lipstick (the homescreen and compositor) has dbus API to take screenshots | 17:47 |
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| icanprogram | MSameer, then I must be loading the wrong repo | 17:48 |
| icanprogram | I installed Warehouse | 17:48 |
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| icanprogram | and if I search for screenshot, the only related result is fbcat | 17:49 |
| MSameer | coderus: do you recall the dbus magick to take screenshots via lipstick? | 17:49 |
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| MSameer | icanprogram: most of those are in harbour not openrepos | 17:50 |
| MSameer | harbour is jolla store | 17:50 |
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| icanprogram | That's what I was looking for, can you point me to where I can install that? | 17:50 |
| icanprogram | I got openrepos by googling "Sailfish Harbour install" | 17:50 |
| MSameer | i don't know :/ | 17:51 |
| MSameer | if harbour is not available then you can't install from it | 17:51 |
| icanprogram | maybe Harbour is in openrepos :p | 17:52 |
| MSameer | nop | 17:52 |
| MSameer | i can try to find an open one and rebuild it for you | 17:52 |
| icanprogram | too bad :P | 17:52 |
| icanprogram | That would be awesome | 17:52 |
| icanprogram | Because Harbour didn't come pre-installed on my device | 17:53 |
| icanprogram | So I just kind of installed the first rpm of something that sounded related | 17:53 |
| MSameer | ScreenShotMe is on github | 17:54 |
| MSameer | and the author has RPM files in git :D | 17:54 |
| MSameer | try this: https://github.com/fk-lx/SailshotMe/blob/master/RPMS/harbour-sailshotme-1.2-0.armv7hl.rpm?raw=true | 17:54 |
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| icanprogram | thanks | 17:55 |
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| icanprogram | Hrm, still can't install untrusted software via the GUI, maybe that's worth noticing Stskeeps | 17:58 |
| icanprogram | nice, thanks MSameer, sailshot me works | 18:01 |
| MSameer | glad it did | 18:02 |
| icanprogram | If I'm being annoying you can just stop answering, but I couldn't find this online; how do cover actions work? | 18:03 |
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| MSameer | icanprogram: minimize the app | 18:07 |
| icanprogram | Right, I have buttons on the covers | 18:07 |
| icanprogram | What I mean is | 18:07 |
| MSameer | press the app placeholder and then flick left and right | 18:07 |
| icanprogram | How do I invoke actions | 18:07 |
| icanprogram | ok | 18:07 |
| icanprogram | going to try that :p | 18:07 |
| MSameer | just left your finger :) | 18:07 |
| icanprogram | sounds interesting | 18:07 |
| icanprogram | oh wow | 18:08 |
| icanprogram | nice | 18:08 |
| icanprogram | man | 18:08 |
| MSameer | so hold, flick left and if there is an action it will show you an icon | 18:08 |
| MSameer | just left your finger | 18:08 |
| icanprogram | Yeah I got it | 18:08 |
| MSameer | :) | 18:08 |
| icanprogram | man, that's cool | 18:08 |
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| icanprogram | I'm guessing those things are hard to cover in the tutorial | 18:08 |
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| MSameer | i think the last update has improved the tutorial | 18:09 |
| MSameer | but the nexus4 images have not been updated yet | 18:09 |
| icanprogram | ah | 18:10 |
| icanprogram | cool | 18:10 |
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| MSameer | it's not mentioned in the tutorial | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | it's in the user guide prolly | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | https://jolla.com/guide/ | 18:15 |
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| MSameer | I filed a bug | 18:16 |
| icanprogram | I should go read that :p | 18:18 |
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| icanprogram | Stskeeps, any ideas on how I could get my hands on Harbour? | 18:19 |
| coderus | MSameer: ya | 18:19 |
| MSameer | coderus: issue solved with an app. thanks | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | icanprogram: wait for next release | 18:19 |
| coderus | here: https://together.jolla.com/question/39930/howto-take-a-screenshot-from-the-command-line/ | 18:20 |
| MSameer | coderus: thank you | 18:20 |
| * MSameer adds to favorites | 18:20 | |
| icanprogram | Stskeeps, ok, I'll do that then :P When is the next one planned? | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | icanprogram: prolly early next week if we're lucky | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | or to stay in good jolla tradition, "soon" | 18:20 |
| icanprogram | cool | 18:20 |
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| tortoisedoc | hello! | 19:39 |
| tortoisedoc | http://kastlunger.blogspot.fi/ :) | 19:39 |
| tortoisedoc | first sailfish app is coming together ^^ <3 | 19:40 |
| tortoisedoc | (just wanted to announce it here heh) | 19:40 |
| tortoisedoc | and out :P | 19:41 |
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| Nicd- | hmmm | 20:14 |
| Nicd- | for some reason on OS X I can't use '#include <exception>' | 20:14 |
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| Nicd- | I'll just have to make my own exception type then I guess | 20:20 |
| ln- | what do you mean you can't? | 20:21 |
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| Nicd- | it's not found | 20:21 |
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| Nicd- | for some reason it's not finding any C++ libs | 20:41 |
| Nicd- | like <vector> for instance | 20:41 |
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| Nicd- | it seems they are at <c++/4.2.1/vector> etc | 20:51 |
| Nicd- | but I don't want to use that, because it'll be broken on other systems then | 20:51 |
| special | your cflags are wrong | 20:51 |
| Nicd- | I haven't set any :/ | 20:51 |
| special | or, actually | 20:52 |
| special | do you have xcode installed | 20:52 |
| Nicd- | yes | 20:52 |
| special | and your using its compiler? | 20:52 |
| special | .. | 20:53 |
| special | you're* | 20:53 |
| Nicd- | no, mer-sdk gcc | 20:53 |
| Nicd- | /SailfishAlpha4/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-armv7hl/gcc | 20:53 |
| special | ah, sdk, of course | 20:54 |
| special | I don't know about the sdk. | 20:54 |
| coderus | Adding second OpacityRampEffect to same item breaks first one | 20:55 |
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| matrixx | how long does it approximately take to get an app published in harbour if there's nothing to fix? | 20:56 |
| coderus | matrixx: couple of days | 20:57 |
| coderus | working days | 20:57 |
| matrixx | coderus: great | 20:57 |
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| nh1402 | you can only post free apps on harbour, right? | 20:59 |
| Nicd- | anyone else have qt creator open right now? | 20:59 |
| Nicd- | nh1402: currently yes | 20:59 |
| nh1402 | how about in-app advertising | 20:59 |
| matrixx | Nicd-: I have | 20:59 |
| Nicd- | matrixx: if you write in #include <vector> into a file, does it find it? | 21:00 |
| Nicd- | nh1402: I think it's allowed | 21:00 |
| Nicd- | but it wouldn't hurt to ask | 21:00 |
| nh1402 | Nicd: thanks for the info | 21:00 |
| matrixx | Nicd-: it's underlined in green :( | 21:00 |
| nh1402 | looking into app development soon | 21:00 |
| Nicd- | matrixx: not found? how about <c++/4.6.4/vector>? what OS? | 21:01 |
| matrixx | on windows | 21:01 |
| matrixx | 8.1 | 21:01 |
| matrixx | Nicd-: it's found on the path you said | 21:01 |
| Nicd- | well that's not nice | 21:02 |
| Nicd- | of course it's better that it can be found at all | 21:02 |
| Nicd- | but I wonder why they didn't just make it available from <vector> | 21:02 |
| matrixx | yeah, seems a bit weird | 21:03 |
| Nicd- | I don't want to make my imports volatile to sdk/gcc updates | 21:03 |
| matrixx | I would think that as a bug in the sdk/qtcreator | 21:03 |
| Nicd- | I'll ask the sdk guys about this tomorrow | 21:04 |
| Nicd- | or write a TJC post | 21:04 |
| matrixx | :) | 21:05 |
| MSameer | Nicd-: how do you compile? | 21:05 |
| Nicd- | MSameer: with /SailfishAlpha4/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-armv7hl/gcc | 21:06 |
| MSameer | do you do it manually or let qtcreator do it? | 21:06 |
| Nicd- | note that I have not actually compiled anything | 21:06 |
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| MSameer | do you do it manually or let qtcreator do it? | 21:07 |
| Nicd- | the problem is that qt creator cannot find the headers so it will underline the headers (and won't have syntax highlight or intellisense) | 21:07 |
| MSameer | also try to install libstdc++-devel | 21:07 |
| MSameer | that's why I am asking | 21:07 |
| MSameer | if you are invoking gcc manually then I can help | 21:07 |
| MSameer | or try to help | 21:07 |
| Nicd- | I compile automatically (cmd+b or cmd+r) | 21:08 |
| MSameer | if you are using qtcreator then I unfortunately cannot | 21:08 |
| MSameer | kaltsi: ^^^ | 21:08 |
| MSameer | Nicd-: either use TJC or ping kaltsi (it's weekend now) | 21:08 |
| Nicd- | yep | 21:09 |
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| Nicd- | MSameer: my app compiles just fine anyway | 21:28 |
| Nicd- | so it's just qt creator missing the intellisense and that sort of stuff because it does not find the headers | 21:29 |
| coderus | add c++/4.6.4 to INCLUDEPATH ? | 21:30 |
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| Nicd- | where do I do that? | 21:33 |
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| coderus | in pro, check qmake syntax | 21:35 |
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| Nicd- | INCLUDEPATH += c++/4.6.4 doesn't do it at least | 21:37 |
| Nicd- | oh well, I'll sleep on it --> | 21:39 |
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