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| he1kki_ | vielakin kannyircin varassa | 04:55 |
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| he1kki_ | mut joo | 04:55 |
| he1kki_ | whops, wrong chan | 04:56 |
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| suosaaski | Does anyone know if there is a difference between an LG G2 bought from germany or finland? | 07:07 |
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| coderus | suosaaski: you will ask about every device now? :) | 07:20 |
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| suosaaski | no, just this one, as I noticed it is very similar to nexus 5 but with a far better battery life | 07:26 |
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| chem|st | suosaaski: yes there is a difference! | 08:33 |
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| chem|st | http://bit.ly/1mQlG9r | 08:37 |
| cos- | sounds like the callspeaker on my phone is dead. there's no audio in calls except when enabling "speaker mode" | 08:41 |
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| cos- | am i the first one? | 08:41 |
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| chem|st | cos-: nope you arent | 08:47 |
| cos- | ok. care@jolla will help? | 08:47 |
| chem|st | probably, did you had a look at PA yet | 08:49 |
| chem|st | as you probably would reset your phone for sending it to care, you might wanna check if something got messed up | 08:52 |
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| tortoisedoc | HRM | 09:04 |
| tortoisedoc | can anyone say if the stats given in harbour dashboard work for them? | 09:04 |
| tigeli | tortoisedoc: it does not work yet | 09:06 |
| tortoisedoc | tigeli : thanks! | 09:07 |
| tortoisedoc | the counter in the jolla store app is quite nice i must say :) | 09:08 |
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| tortoisedoc | hope you guys find a quick way to get it working in the harbour as well | 09:08 |
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| kaltsi | tortoisedoc: you pinged last night, anything I can help with? | 09:16 |
| tortoisedoc | kaltsi : yes, I have some more reproducing steps for the debugging on qtcreator | 09:18 |
| kaltsi | tortoisedoc: ok I'm interested :) | 09:18 |
| tortoisedoc | if you press shift+f5 (to stop) an abort (debug menu-> abort) is required to properly stop | 09:18 |
| tortoisedoc | if instead of abort you press the red square, it wont be possible for you to stop the program at all :D | 09:19 |
| tortoisedoc | and you will be forced to quit | 09:19 |
| kaltsi | I noticed that not stopping problem myself.. it happens only in windows | 09:19 |
| tortoisedoc | this is extremely, extremely unproductive :P | 09:19 |
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| tortoisedoc | (from a developer | 09:19 |
| tortoisedoc | point of view i mean) | 09:19 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 09:19 |
| tortoisedoc | makes sense | 09:19 |
| kaltsi | yep I understand, I've made a bug about it.. just need to find a fix :) | 09:19 |
| tortoisedoc | lol | 09:19 |
| kaltsi | now I'll run away to lunch.. thanks for the feedback | 09:20 |
| tortoisedoc | that was all | 09:20 |
| tortoisedoc | welcome :) | 09:20 |
| tortoisedoc | and please fix it asap | 09:20 |
| tortoisedoc | :P | 09:20 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : ping | 09:28 |
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| tadzik | hello there | 09:42 |
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| tadzik | how would I go about compiling a CLI app for sailfish? The QtCreator from SDK only seems to like qmake and cmake; when I imported a project from a directory it built it for x86, not giving me a way to run it in the emulator or whatnot | 10:10 |
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| tadzik | maybe I should just get the mer sdk | 10:11 |
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| kimmoli_sailing_ | i have done many cli apps with qtcreator.. no problems | 10:19 |
| tadzik | hmm. What was your workflow? I went for New Project -> Import project | 10:22 |
| tadzik | then Build worked okay, but it clearly built stuff for my local machine | 10:22 |
| tortoisedoc | tadzik : do you have the correct SDK installed? | 10:24 |
| tortoisedoc | sailfishos sdk != qt sdk | 10:24 |
| tadzik | tortoisedoc: I installed the Sailfish SDK from the sailfish website | 10:24 |
| tadzik | it has sailfish project options all around | 10:24 |
| tortoisedoc | tadzik : great | 10:24 |
| cos- | tadzik: have you selected arm build, not x86? | 10:25 |
| tadzik | oh, I don't remember doing that, indeed :( | 10:26 |
| Nicd- | cos-: but emulator is i486 | 10:26 |
| tadzik | oh, I don't need the emulator | 10:26 |
| tadzik | I want to cross compile a thing for Jolla | 10:26 |
| Nicd- | you did mention emulator though | 10:27 |
| tadzik | oh, right. I thought the emulator would be running on the target architecture though, via virtualbox or whanot | 10:28 |
| tadzik | if it's not, that's fine | 10:28 |
| tadzik | where can I change the target architecture? | 10:28 |
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| Nicd- | the emulator runs an i486 version in virtualbox | 10:31 |
| Nicd- | you can change the kit in the lower left area, where it says "release" or something | 10:31 |
| tadzik | I found "open build kit selector" in options, but nothing seems clickable: http://imgur.com/3GZX98w | 10:32 |
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| stephg | don't think it's there | 10:35 |
| stephg | sec | 10:35 |
| stephg | let me start my sdk | 10:36 |
| tadzik | thanks | 10:36 |
| stephg | open your project, then click on 'projects' about 2/5 of the way up the left hand side | 10:36 |
| stephg | that's where the kits are | 10:36 |
| tadzik | aha, there it is! | 10:37 |
| tadzik | thank you stephg | 10:37 |
| stephg | so the arm one is for deploying to a real device and the i486 for the emu | 10:38 |
| tadzik | aye | 10:38 |
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| HtheB | can anyone make a screenshot (or a picture) of the "Enter Pin code screen" ? | 11:10 |
| HtheB | my phone is on repair :( and I need it for the Sailfish theme for harmattan | 11:10 |
| cos- | Jolla service request form is in Dropbox as .docx file.. nice :-) | 11:12 |
| Nicd- | Jolla or Optima? | 11:13 |
| cos- | Optima actually.. but anyway | 11:14 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | for me it was downloaded as pdf, not doc. but without any extension.. | 11:16 |
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| cos- | filename ends in .docx and it opens in libreoffice | 11:17 |
| kimmoli_sailing_ | but that was due dropbox previews it as pdf, and i dont want to show pdf in browsrr. | 11:17 |
| cos- | how quick the service is usually? | 11:18 |
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| kimmoli_sailing_ | i did drop it there, and in less than 24 hours i had it back | 11:20 |
| Wnt | cos-: When I returned my device to DNA store to get a broken earpiece replaced it took less than a week to get it back | 11:21 |
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| kimmoli_sailing_ | i had loudspeaker replaced | 11:21 |
| Wnt | 4 working days if I rember correctly. probably most of that time it was just waiting for shipment to Optima / back to the store | 11:21 |
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| cos- | ok, not bad | 11:22 |
| cos- | did you get the device back with all the data? | 11:23 |
| Wnt | mine was flashed to the latest release | 11:24 |
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| Nicd- | I think they flash all devices | 11:24 |
| Wnt | originally I got the device with 1.0.0.5 firmware and a factory reset would go back to that, but after the service it only goes to something like update 3 or 4 | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, we try to kill old releases when possible | 11:28 |
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| Wnt | if one would be still running an old release like 1.0.0.5, would the store application show the exact download counts for applications? | 11:32 |
| Wnt | My store client seems to be stuck at "Loading apps", in the journal I noticed "heinä 04 14:33:51 Jolla [22879]: [W] DBusConnector::acquireService:303 - void DBusConnector::acquireService() Service name is already in use: "com.jolla.jollastore"" | 11:35 |
| Wnt | last time I tried opening the store, I had internet connection issues and I closed the application | 11:36 |
| Wnt | do I need to reboot the device to get the store application to start up? | 11:36 |
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| kaltsi | Wnt: do you see a 'store-client' process running if you check the processes with ps? | 11:52 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 12:18 |
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| locusf | Aard: ping | 12:23 |
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| Aard | locusf: pong | 12:28 |
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| locusf | Aard: did you guys fix the sbj-configs package yet? | 12:32 |
| Aard | locusf: I'm still not sure if the dependency should be there, or not. if it should not be there it'll be gone with update9 (=late august/early september) | 12:32 |
| locusf | Aard: okay thanks | 12:33 |
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| Aard | I'm currently in the middle of moving, so right now the only thing I'm working on is getting u8 out | 12:33 |
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| coderus | torpong | 13:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi coderus | 13:36 |
| coderus | hello dr_gogeta86 ? | 13:38 |
| HtheB | hello all? | 13:38 |
| tadzik | hmm, how can I get a shell inside the running Mer VM? | 13:40 |
| tadzik | I need to investigate some build erorrs | 13:40 |
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| coderus | tadzik: https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 13:44 |
| tadzik | aha! Many thanks | 13:45 |
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| tadzik | now, why does the gcc inside produce x86... | 13:56 |
| tadzik | in the qtcreator it claims to be MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv7hl | 13:56 |
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| special | tadzik: the VM isn't actually running ARM | 14:02 |
| special | (unless it's different from what I expect; I don't directly know) | 14:02 |
| tadzik | hmm. Can I convince the compiler inside it to emit arm binaries? | 14:03 |
| special | it uses qemu/scratchbox2 for ARM cross-compilation | 14:03 |
| special | the emulator is x86 | 14:03 |
| tadzik | I see | 14:03 |
| special | but I don't know how the sdk stuff is set up.. | 14:03 |
| special | does it have 'sb2'? | 14:03 |
| tadzik | yes indeed | 14:03 |
| tadzik | sb2 gcc is i486 though, but there is sb2 -t to set a target | 14:04 |
| special | it will be a native gcc | 14:04 |
| special | sb2 uses a combination of native binaries and an emulated environment.. | 14:04 |
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| kaltsi | tadzik: if you have a project like the default sailfish template so that you have a source dir and an rpm subdir with yaml/spec files, you can use the mb2 command to build your project | 14:13 |
| kaltsi | tadzik: mb2 -t <tab> will list you the available targets.. same with sb2 -t <tab> | 14:13 |
| kaltsi | tadzik: one example of building a project: mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl build | 14:14 |
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| kaltsi | mb2 is a 'higher level' command than sb2 | 14:16 |
| kaltsi | mb2 will do the packaging for you etc and it will call sb2 to build the project | 14:16 |
| tadzik | kaltsi: nah, I have a good, ol' ./configure-make project | 14:16 |
| kaltsi | ok then you may want to start an sb2 session to build it: sb2 -t Sail<tab> | 14:16 |
| tadzik | yeah, trying that now | 14:16 |
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| tadzik | moar: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM \o/ | 14:19 |
| tadzik | awesome, | 14:19 |
| kaltsi | :) | 14:19 |
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| tadzik | is there a way to query a currently played song on the Sailfish media player? | 16:39 |
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| tadzik | ah, it apparently requires patching AudioPlayer.qml | 16:52 |
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| MoritzJT | Where are the logs to SailfishOS channel? | 17:00 |
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| ahjolinna | Hello: : I have weird problem when I try to transfer (USB) files from chakra-linux to my Jolla phone... every files goes to my phone except .flac and .mov ....at least those dont work .........I dont know if its libmtp problem or SailfishOs one | 18:59 |
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| M4rtinK | ahjolinna: never got MTP working myself on Fedora 20 | 19:17 |
| tadzik | MTP is the worst thing I've had to use since systemd :( | 19:17 |
| M4rtinK | ahjolinna: but USB networking with SHFS works very well | 19:17 |
| M4rtinK | *SSHFS | 19:18 |
| tadzik | luckily jolla still has SSH, otherwise I wouldn't be able to copy a thing | 19:18 |
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| M4rtinK | with public key authentication it is seamless as it gets | 19:18 |
| ahjolinna | M4rtinK: mtp does not works thanks to this bug: http://sourceforge.net/p/libmtp/bugs/941/ | 19:18 |
| tadzik | this thing doesn't work for me for some reason | 19:18 |
| M4rtinK | and much better than even mass storage | 19:19 |
| tadzik | maybe I need to tune the ssh server | 19:19 |
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| M4rtinK | zero issue for me | 19:19 |
| M4rtinK | maybe incorrectly configured USB networking ? | 19:20 |
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| M4rtinK | BTW, MTP has quite a lot of issues, even on protocol level | 19:20 |
| M4rtinK | like missing support for seek | 19:20 |
| ahjolinna | MTP sucks | 19:21 |
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| M4rtinK | say you have a 4 GB video file on your Jolla connected to your PC | 19:21 |
| flux | I must wonder why anyone ever deviced such a half-assed protocol | 19:21 |
| flux | I mean it was required to be simple, but.. | 19:21 |
| M4rtinK | with mass storage, NTP, SSHFS, NFS, samba, etc, you can start plying it from any spot | 19:22 |
| tigeli | flux: they weren't capable creating usb-storage which both host and client could access the same time :D | 19:22 |
| tigeli | flux: so they created shitty mtp :D | 19:22 |
| M4rtinK | with MTP you need to download the whole thing before you can do anything | 19:22 |
| flux | tigeli, but why didn't they create a non-shitty mtp.. | 19:22 |
| smoku | M4rtinK: MTP works for me in fedora out-of-box | 19:22 |
| tigeli | flux: because they were in-capable | 19:22 |
| tigeli | ;) | 19:23 |
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| M4rtinK | smoku: strange, never did a thing for me | 19:23 |
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| flux | to work with multiple hosts at the same time they would have needed a better filesystem | 19:23 |
| flux | and that'd be quite an overkill solution | 19:23 |
| M4rtinK | smoku: but I haven't tried very much | 19:23 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus: ping | 19:23 |
| M4rtinK | NFS has been there for how long ? | 19:23 |
| M4rtinK | 20 years ? | 19:23 |
| tigeli | but yes, mtp could work better | 19:23 |
| M4rtinK | and SMB/samba | 19:23 |
| tigeli | sftp works | 19:24 |
| smoku | M4rtinK: I have a pretty default setup with gnome3. I plugged the phone, few seconds later a popup came out that new "drives" connected ;-) | 19:24 |
| ahjolinna | I think this is an issue that should be fixed or at least figure out if the problem is on sailfish end or not | 19:25 |
| smoku | M4rtinK: didn't have to do anything | 19:25 |
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| M4rtinK | smoku: weird, will have to try again some time | 19:25 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 19:33 |
| tortoisedoc | guys | 19:33 |
| tortoisedoc | calling Qt.openUrlExternally does not bring up the browser directly.. | 19:33 |
| tortoisedoc | other apps seem to work, but specifically the browser does not : | 19:33 |
| tortoisedoc | :| | 19:34 |
| tortoisedoc | anyone else has experienced the same? | 19:34 |
| * tortoisedoc eyes M4rtinK | 19:34 | |
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| M4rtinK | tortoisedoc: works fine in modRana | 19:34 |
| M4rtinK | tortoisedoc: check for yourself on the About page :) | 19:35 |
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| macmanus | hi | 19:39 |
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| macmanus | just wanted to start program my first jolla sailfish os app | 19:39 |
| macmanus | just finished the tutorial shipped with the ide | 19:40 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 19:40 |
| macmanus | does anybody know some good ongoing tutorials ? | 19:40 |
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| macmanus | or can someone tell me how to handle a .json in an app? | 19:51 |
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| M4rtinK | macmanus: well, I am actually working on just that :) | 19:53 |
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| macmanus | whow thats great | 19:54 |
| M4rtinK | but I'm using Python not C++ for the backend so I'm just using the build in JSON library | 19:54 |
| M4rtinK | from the Python standard library | 19:54 |
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| smoku | macmanus: you want to load some data from .json file to QML app, or do you need to fetch it via http request? | 19:55 |
| macmanus | i need to fetch it via http request | 19:55 |
| smoku | macmanus: standard XMLHttpRequest is available in QML, so do it just like you would do in a web app | 19:56 |
| smoku | macmanus: parsing may be a problem though - if you're fine with its security implications, you could just eval() it | 19:57 |
| smoku | macmanus: if not, plug some JSON to QVariantMap parser from C++ side. qjson library plays nice | 19:57 |
| M4rtinK | What could possibly go wrong ? :D | 19:57 |
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| macmanus | okay thank you, i'll try that. The python side looks also great, M4rtinK, can you tell me how you implement the python code to the app in the sailfish ide ? | 19:58 |
| special | macmanus: I think QML has JSON.parse these days? | 19:58 |
| smoku | M4rtinK: ;-) depends on whether you trust your http endpoint ;-) | 19:59 |
| special | yes, JSON.parse and JSON.serialize are available just like in a browser | 19:59 |
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| smoku | special: oh, great. it wasn't when i was working with it. but it was at qt 4.8, qtquick1 times ;-) | 20:00 |
| special | pfft, that was two javascript engines ago | 20:00 |
| smoku | macmanus: it gets even better: http://qt-project.org/wiki/JSONListModel | 20:01 |
| special | technically that's somewhat unnecessary, because an array can be a model in QML and you can get an array from JSON.parse | 20:01 |
| special | but not with the nifty querying. | 20:02 |
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| macmanus | thanks to you all | 20:08 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 20:13 |
| tortoisedoc | just discovering net tethering does not allow developer mode on at the same time.. | 20:13 |
| tortoisedoc | crap :| | 20:13 |
| special | ? | 20:13 |
| special | how do you mean | 20:13 |
| tortoisedoc | turning net sharing / tethering on | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc | and then I want to turn developer mode on as well | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc | (on top of it) | 20:14 |
| special | I don't know of any reason why that would be a problem | 20:14 |
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| tortoisedoc | from the developer mode settings page (with sharing on), it does not get a wlan ip | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc | ah maybe the glitch is in the ui then :P | 20:15 |
| tortoisedoc | as a matter of fact, it actually works | 20:15 |
| special | ah, you want it on wlan | 20:15 |
| tortoisedoc | yep :P | 20:15 |
| tortoisedoc | (at least deploying works) | 20:15 |
| special | yeah, I'm not too surprised if that one doesn't work | 20:15 |
| special | USB cable ;) | 20:16 |
| tortoisedoc | lol | 20:16 |
| tortoisedoc | do not have one :D | 20:16 |
| tortoisedoc | it probably has an issue with double dhcp | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | and ip stuff | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | but | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | you would think it *should* be possible | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | as the functionality is basically the same | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | (DHCP, DNS etc) | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | no | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 20:17 |
| special | well, I'd guess that the sshd just isn't bound to the tethering wlan interface? | 20:17 |
| special | or maybe it is bound, and the UI just doesn't know to find the IP address from there? | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | yeah | 20:17 |
| tortoisedoc | the second one sounds more plausible | 20:18 |
| tortoisedoc | weew | 20:20 |
| tortoisedoc | weird thoughts coming up | 20:20 |
| tortoisedoc | too late to code P | 20:20 |
| tortoisedoc | better watch football | 20:20 |
| * tortoisedoc wonders is it possible to pipe an interface to a service? | 20:20 | |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 20:46 |
| tortoisedoc | whats the qml plugin for screen locking | 20:46 |
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| smoku | tortoisedoc: you want to lock the screen, prevent locking, get notified about locking? | 20:50 |
| smoku | how can I get system volume level? i would like to set my soundeffects to the system volume level, instead of playing them full-on 100% | 20:51 |
| tortoisedoc | smoku : solved by rolling my own :P | 20:56 |
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