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| TMavica | is it possible use swipe to change keyboard? | 06:18 |
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| SaberAltria | SK_WORK ? | 07:25 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | good morning | 08:46 |
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| lsix | Hi, I cannot have MMS working on my SailfishOS Phone. I just have a "Problem with sending message" or "Problem with downloading message". Is there a log file where I could look to get more detailed diagnostic of what is going on ? | 09:56 |
| Plnt | lsix: https://together.jolla.com/question/38555/mms-issues-hints-for-debugging-and-helping-us-to-improve/ | 09:58 |
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| phdeswer | lsix: I think there is a thread on together.jolla.com about that somewhere | 09:58 |
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| phdeswer | Yep Plnt was faster and more accurate :D | 09:58 |
| Plnt | :)) | 09:58 |
| lsix | great ! Ill look into that | 09:58 |
| lsix | thanks | 09:59 |
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| tortoisedoc | hiho | 10:29 |
| tortoisedoc | special : got a minute? | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | some wayland stuff : | 10:30 |
| special | sure | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | :| | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | ok infinite thanks D | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | http://pastebin.com/inJbkF8Z | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | so | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | for some reason | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | i call destroy on my surface | 10:31 |
| tortoisedoc | erm | 10:31 |
| tortoisedoc | from the start | 10:31 |
| tortoisedoc | I want to hide my window | 10:31 |
| tortoisedoc | so what I do is hide (destroy surface) | 10:31 |
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| tortoisedoc | surface disappears but comes back | 10:31 |
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| tortoisedoc | i think problem could be damaged event gets dispatched after destroy has been disp? | 10:32 |
| tortoisedoc | (as you can see in log?) | 10:32 |
| tortoisedoc | I mean, is my rational possibly correct ? | 10:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | so i guess I need to find where the damage is coming from | 10:38 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 10:38 |
| * special reads | 10:49 | |
| special | over my head | 10:50 |
| special | you're dealing with wayland directly, not qtwayland? | 10:51 |
| tortoisedoc | qtwayland | 10:51 |
| tortoisedoc | for some reason | 10:51 |
| tortoisedoc | this happens only in one case | 10:52 |
| tortoisedoc | in quickbar, you can now launch apps either by just clicking or then by dragging and releasing | 10:52 |
| tortoisedoc | and this situation happens only in the second one (i.e. after you have dragged the icon you want to launch and release it) | 10:52 |
| tortoisedoc | maybe the dragging is causing some damage event after the surface has been destroyed.. | 10:53 |
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| giucam | tortoisedoc: are you calling QWindow::hide() or what? | 11:01 |
| Nicd- | tortoisedoc: would it be possible to make the quickbar settings be a normal app? one I can minimize and close normally :P | 11:01 |
| tortoisedoc | giucam :yes | 11:01 |
| Nicd- | it confuses me that it's some kind of overlay | 11:02 |
| giucam | tortoisedoc: and we're talking qtquick, of course | 11:03 |
| giucam | tortoisedoc: what os version? | 11:03 |
| giucam | ah, it doesn't matter actually | 11:05 |
| giucam | tortoisedoc: qtwayland bug, it will be fixed in the next version | 11:05 |
| giucam | tortoisedoc: and fyi, the problem there is not the damage but the attach call | 11:06 |
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| tortoisedoc | nicd- : everything is possible :) | 11:24 |
| tortoisedoc | giucam : yes, qtquick | 11:24 |
| tortoisedoc | but handled on c++ side as well | 11:24 |
| Nicd- | ツ | 11:24 |
| tortoisedoc | giucam : the attach call? | 11:25 |
| tortoisedoc | ah, the one in which it attaches the old buffer? | 11:25 |
| giucam | tortoisedoc: yes | 11:25 |
| tortoisedoc | crap | 11:25 |
| tortoisedoc | qtwayland means next qt update? :( | 11:25 |
| tortoisedoc | (for the fix) | 11:25 |
| giucam | yeah, unless you want to build it yourself | 11:25 |
| tortoisedoc | ;_; | 11:26 |
| tortoisedoc | any worakrounds? | 11:26 |
| tortoisedoc | *workarounds alos | 11:26 |
| tortoisedoc | also :P | 11:26 |
| giucam | let me think.. | 11:26 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm does the bug consist in the fact that damage events are taken even after a surface has been destroyed | 11:31 |
| giucam | tortoisedoc: i suppose you could call QTimer::singleShot(0, obj, slot) afetr you call hide(), and call window->handle()->setVisible(false) in the slot | 11:32 |
| tortoisedoc | cause then it's probably the dragging that causes some event after the release of the touch (and consequently after hiding the surface9 | 11:32 |
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| giucam | tortoisedoc: no, the problem is that after the attach(0) the qtquick render thread is still drawing the last frame | 11:32 |
| tortoisedoc | giucam : yeah, that's worth a try | 11:32 |
| tortoisedoc | aah | 11:33 |
| tortoisedoc | ok | 11:33 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm why does this recall vsync | 11:33 |
| tortoisedoc | perhaps I could fix it in there somehow | 11:33 |
| giucam | there were? | 11:34 |
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| tortoisedoc | in some vsync synchronized slot? | 11:34 |
| giucam | it has nothing to do with vsync | 11:34 |
| tortoisedoc | (if that even exists) | 11:34 |
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| tortoisedoc | I see | 11:36 |
| giucam | oh, another workaround could be to connect to QQuickWindow::frameSwapped signal and call window->handle()->setVisible(false) if window->isVisible() == false | 11:36 |
| tortoisedoc | there :P | 11:36 |
| tortoisedoc | maybe it would be better to actually make the whole hiding logic synchronous with the frame swapping | 11:37 |
| tortoisedoc | (i.e. handled at frame swap) | 11:37 |
| giucam | that's the bug in qtwayland, indeed | 11:37 |
| tortoisedoc | great | 11:37 |
| giucam | calling hide() should not return until th erender thread has finished drawing | 11:37 |
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| tortoisedoc | giucam : hmm but why does this happen only in certain situations? | 11:46 |
| tortoisedoc | timing issue? | 11:46 |
| tortoisedoc | (just testing the theory) | 11:47 |
| giucam | tortoisedoc: yeah, it's a race condition so it's time sensitive | 11:48 |
| tortoisedoc | ok thanks giucam | 11:49 |
| tortoisedoc | (again) | 11:49 |
| tortoisedoc | coffee time :) | 11:49 |
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| Vicx | Hi, is the Sailfish OS SDK opensource ? | 12:18 |
| Vicx | I'm trying to make scripts for the qt installer framework and I know that it's used for the SDK, it would help me. | 12:20 |
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| Jare | Vicx: mostly yes, but those installer scripts aren't publicly available | 12:52 |
| Vicx | Jare: oh, ok... thanks | 12:52 |
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| smoku_ | how should I install additional RPM packages I have locally on HDD to SDK build engine? | 13:18 |
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| SK_work | smoku_: scp them in the mer sdk | 13:23 |
| SK_work | and sb2 in a build engine before zypper in them ? | 13:24 |
| smoku_ | SK_work: just found https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-August/000685.html - this way? | 13:24 |
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| SK_work | sounds good | 13:25 |
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| smoku_ | SK_work: thx | 13:26 |
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| elenril | hmm, is the mysatroker kernel module not needed anymore? | 13:51 |
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| Turski | shouldn't gst-plugins-bad supposed to include MMS protocol source plugin? | 13:57 |
| Turski | ERROR: from element /GstPlayBin:playbin0: A Microsoft Media Server (MMS) protocol source plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed. | 13:58 |
| Turski | that probably explains why MMS radio streams cannot be played... | 13:59 |
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| locusf | smoku: ping, aren't you the one whos responsible for the pebble app? | 15:06 |
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| locusf | smoku: nothing anymore, I got pebble working :) | 15:58 |
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| HBP_ | is there a quota for android apps? I get "No space left on the device" when trying to sync music from spotify | 16:47 |
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| ryukafalz | Admittedly I haven't been using it that much, but my n4's battery life with sailfish at idle has been pretty impressive | 16:49 |
| ryukafalz | w/ mobile network connection | 16:49 |
| ryukafalz | probably 'cause it's not sending all my stuff to google all the time :P | 16:49 |
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| SpeedEvil | On a related note - is obtaining a n4 image still not simple. My n4's just stopped booting after upgrading to the most recent android | 16:54 |
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| ryukafalz | SpeedEvil: http://www.thejollablog.com/jolla-releases-sailfish-os-saapunki-update-nexus-4/ | 17:00 |
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| SpeedEvil | thanks | 17:05 |
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| locusf | anyone with hadk can bake a new image for n4 btw | 17:11 |
| locusf | just ask | 17:11 |
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| tbr | HBP_: you might have exhausted the btrfs, there is a TJC item on that | 17:17 |
| HBP_ | meaning what? :P | 17:19 |
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| Eztran | HBP_: see https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 17:22 |
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| HBP_ | hmm I see only 21% usage (df -h) | 17:25 |
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| stephg | HBP_: you can't trust df | 17:27 |
| stephg | :) | 17:27 |
| HBP_ | seems so... I answered before reading that :P | 17:27 |
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| HBP_ | devid 1 size 13.75GB used 4.75GB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 17:29 |
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| ShadowJK | that's a damn scary tjc | 17:46 |
| ShadowJK | 13.75 used 13.75 for me | 17:46 |
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| kimmoli | seems Sailfish.media is not allowed in harbour, needs for GStreamerVideoOutput - or does the VideoOutput work already? | 18:13 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: sure its working already | 19:07 |
| coderus | open GStreamerVideoOutput and look :D | 19:07 |
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| kimmoli | yep that works, mean plain ViedoOutput | 19:12 |
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| kimmoli | äh, have to make test app | 19:14 |
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| kimmoli | ok, seems that VideoOutput works now. iirc there was issues ages ago | 19:26 |
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