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| coderus | installing apps from play dtore fails with error "not enough free space" :D | 06:20 |
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| stephg | *cough* btrfs *cough* ;) | 06:20 |
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| kimmoli | get well soon,. stephg | 06:47 |
| stephg | ;) | 06:47 |
| tbr | came down with a nasty systemd infection? *snerk* | 06:48 |
| stephg | well at least I'm not running a temperature ;) | 06:48 |
| kimmoli | itch around usb? | 06:49 |
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| * stephg blushes as kimmoli asks such private personal questions | 06:50 | |
| kimmoli | sorry, i thought this was #doctor-appointment | 06:51 |
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| alin | hi... | 06:59 |
| alin | I was playing with the email ap | 06:59 |
| alin | p | 06:59 |
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| alin | and I noticed that once a message open i cannot go back to the previous screen by slide on screen | 07:00 |
| alin | i need to push the shiny buttons on top | 07:00 |
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| tbr | that only applies if the mail is zoomed, for me | 07:02 |
| alin | lbt: I see.. let me try | 07:05 |
| kimmoli | i sometimes need to tap once somewhere in email (Ieven zoomed out) before can swipe back. pagestack-dots are not visible if zoomed. | 07:07 |
| alin | lbt: yap... you are right | 07:07 |
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| alin | kimmoli: yap... indeed... if one zooms out enough slide is back | 07:08 |
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| kimmoli | happens with html mails, if i scroll down, i cant swipe back to list. i have to tap once before swipe works | 07:09 |
| stephg | right then guys | 07:09 |
| alin | kimmoli: yap.. | 07:09 |
| stephg | I'm off on holiday, have a good few weeks porting and otherwise messing around with our fun devices | 07:09 |
| alin | stephg: enjoy | 07:10 |
| alin | reboot time | 07:10 |
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| jardous | Hello guys. Long time ago I've created a game for Meego. Anybody here who is interested to port it to Jolla? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJwLwjs9zOQ | 07:14 |
| kimmoli | jardous: why not port yourself ? | 07:21 |
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| jardous | kimmoli: I've tried, but currently have no time. I've got stuck already on changing the screen size... | 07:23 |
| walokra | smoku: is the flappy github-repo private or just vanished? (doing blog post about sailfishos apps) | 07:26 |
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| manqeloque | jardous, i can maybe look into it at some point. where's the source? | 07:29 |
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| jardous | manqelogue: I'll add it soon to github | 07:29 |
| manqeloque | ok | 07:31 |
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| jardous | manqeloqu: https://github.com/jardous/trapthemouse | 07:53 |
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| manqeloque | :) | 07:55 |
| manqeloque | i'll try to find time to look into that in few days | 07:55 |
| jardous | manqeloque: sorry for misspelling your name :) | 07:55 |
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| kimmoli | jardous: i might fork it too, lets see what is left from the original code :p | 07:58 |
| jardous | kimmoli: feel free guys! Happy hacking ;) | 07:58 |
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| alin | i try to build one example from the sdk... qt creator is adamant to :-1: error: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Connection refused | 08:10 |
| alin | the bloody think is running in vbox | 08:11 |
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| kimmoli | jardous: https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=2d417706-227b-8126-49fc-877de9f3e023 | 08:28 |
| kimmoli | jardous: https://github.com/kimmoli/trapthemouse-sailfish | 08:28 |
| kimmoli | jardous: first hack | 08:28 |
| jardous | kimmoli: thats Qt Quick! :) | 08:31 |
| coderus | stephg: but btrfs filesystem df / says i have free space :) | 08:31 |
| coderus | alin: youshould staart vm :) | 08:32 |
| alin | coderus: of course I start it... | 08:33 |
| alin | if I start the virtual box it says it runs | 08:33 |
| coderus | thensrop | 08:33 |
| coderus | then stop it aand restart qtc | 08:34 |
| * coderus typing in irssi on remote server using putty aand my connection have long atency... | 08:35 | |
| alin | coderus: stupid me... I had to push build one more time | 08:35 |
| * coderus should use mosh probably.... | 08:36 | |
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| coderus | alin: build backend inside vm is slow to staart... | 08:37 |
| kimmoli | i keep it "always" running | 08:37 |
| coderus | kimmoli: i'm just using it inside chroot and vanished vm :) | 08:38 |
| kimmoli | ik | 08:38 |
| coderus | :p | 08:39 |
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| alin | coderus: first failed... time always failed | 08:39 |
| alin | coderus: and got scared... did not push build again | 08:40 |
| kimmoli | start the sdk first from the lowest button, wait until it is red, then hit build/deploy | 08:40 |
| dr_gogeta86 | good morning | 08:41 |
| dr_gogeta86 | coderus, switch to mosh asap ... and use ssh just for tunnelling | 08:41 |
| coderus | i have no ports for mosh on server | 08:43 |
| coderus | lazy to configure :) | 08:43 |
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| kimmoli | jardous: ahhaha https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=9743c3cb-e9c7-27d1-01d3-91680ca24f0e i won | 08:50 |
| jardous | kimmoli: :) | 08:51 |
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| manqeloque | does fingerterm already work with mosh? | 08:54 |
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| manqeloque | it has had some utf8 bugs for a long time | 09:01 |
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| coderus | used fingerterm with mosh on n9 in past | 09:07 |
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| tadzik | SK_work: ping | 10:08 |
| SK_work | tadzik: png | 10:09 |
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| tbr | jpeg2000 | 10:09 |
| SK_work | jpg etc. | 10:09 |
| tadzik | SK_work: I just updated the Musicplayer buttons patch, and the patchmanager did the same thing as before, with "patch not there anymore, bla bla" | 10:10 |
| tadzik | SK_work: last time it happened I thought that the patch itself did something weird over the update, but now it seems like every patch update breaks things up | 10:10 |
| SK_work | tadzik: nope, I think it's because of the old patch thing | 10:11 |
| SK_work | I really need to find time to fix this : | 10:11 |
| SK_work | :/ | 10:11 |
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| Wnt | how can I add the chum repo to my device? ( http://repo.merproject.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum:/ ) | 10:13 |
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| tadzik | SK_work: it seems I'll need a new workaround this time :/ I now get "failed to remove patch" when I try to unapply it | 10:16 |
| tadzik | presumably because it tries to unapply the new one | 10:16 |
| Wnt | well at least this method seems to work for adding chum: "ssu ar chum http://repo.merproject.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum:/1.0.8.19:/testing/1.0.8.19_armv7hl/ ; pkcon refresh" | 10:19 |
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| cameris | Question about qt: I got a Class A with a member QList<B *> and a function getList() const that returns this list. Now Class C calls A::getList() on an instance of A to get the List. C wants to have a copy of the List, so that it can, for example, be sorted without changing the order in A. What does A::getList() have to return? If it returns QList<B *> is that a case of the implicit sharing, where I can write to the retur | 11:15 |
| special | you were cut off at "where can I write to the retur" | 11:16 |
| cameris | ... where I can write to the returned list without modifiying A's list? | 11:17 |
| special | but, the answer is to look at basic C++: if you make a copy of the object, that copy can be modified without changing the original | 11:17 |
| special | so if you return by value `QList<B*> getList()` you get a copy | 11:17 |
| cameris | Yeah, but I don't get the implicit sharing | 11:17 |
| special | if you return a const reference `const QList<B*> &getList()` you can't modify it without getting a copy | 11:17 |
| special | if you returned a pointer `QList<B*> *getList()` or a reference `QList<B*> &getList()`, modifying that would change the original | 11:18 |
| cameris | QList<B *> * I can't use for the reason you said. That I know. | 11:19 |
| special | the implicit sharing is almost invisible; you can treat it like each QList<B*> object is completely separate and will not effect any other | 11:19 |
| cameris | but only when I try to modify it, it is copied? | 11:20 |
| special | implicit sharing just means that unless you modify that new object, you don't pay the price of copying the list's data | 11:20 |
| special | does that help at all? | 11:20 |
| cameris | that sounds pretty awesome, so I just have to const QList<B *> & getList() to get this? | 11:21 |
| special | another way to look at it: imagine you're returning and modifying an `int` instead of `QList<B*>` | 11:21 |
| special | they will behave the same | 11:21 |
| special | you always get it. `QList<B*> getList()` is probably the right choice for you | 11:21 |
| cameris | wow, thx special. | 11:22 |
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| smoku_ | it's worth noting that QString has similar magic underneath, so copying and returning QStrings by value is also very cheap | 11:46 |
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| coderus | issue "not enough free space" in Play Store was because of not removed odex. Deleted it manually and can install app again :) | 12:44 |
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| merlin1991 | tbr has there been any progress on the chum front? I heaven't had the chance to follow meetings or read logs or otherwise indulge myself ... | 14:42 |
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| tbr | merlin1991: aside from, all hands on deck and help? not much | 14:43 |
| tbr | merlin1991: if you try something from chum testing tell me and I'll promote it to chum proper for the current version | 14:43 |
| merlin1991 | tbb I'll try python requests, since it is my baby :) | 14:45 |
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| merlin1991 | tbr: so we don't really have a ruleset yet, or anything regarding integration into the jolla release and so on? | 14:54 |
| tbr | merlin1991: correct | 14:54 |
| merlin1991 | so still same as before the very first community meeting :/ | 14:55 |
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| tbr | merlin1991: there is an etherpad and supposedly jolla is getting ready to integrate chum, but for that we need some things like a client | 15:06 |
| merlin1991 | got a link to the pad? | 15:07 |
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| tbr | merlin1991: I dug through most minutes and logs but can't seem to find it. will look further | 15:16 |
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| lukedirtwalker | jusa_: are you the audio master (as you mailed about new policy)? Is it possible that QAudioOutput is louder per default than other output sources? | 15:37 |
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| tbr | merlin1991: http://piratepad.net/iVW0lrOKXF | 15:40 |
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| merlin1991 | thanks tbr | 15:44 |
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| jusa_ | lukedirtwalker: in itself, shouldn't be.. | 16:19 |
| lukedirtwalker | jusa_: because it seems cutespotify plays a bit louder than other apps | 16:22 |
| lukedirtwalker | and I only use QAudioOutput without manipulation of volume | 16:22 |
| jusa_ | lukedirtwalker: the audio data might be more "loud" in different ways | 16:23 |
| lukedirtwalker | is there an easy way to "scale" that down? | 16:24 |
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| lukedirtwalker | say I always want my volume 10% lower than system-volume | 16:25 |
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| jusa_ | you'd need to calculate new volume for the audio data before passing to QAudioOutput | 16:33 |
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| lukedirtwalker | jusa_: ok thanks, I think I'll leave it for now. | 16:42 |
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| systemclient | A friend of mine has a Jolla Phone. Is there a way yet to install that OS on an Android device that I already own (Nexus 10)? | 16:43 |
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| tbr | systemclient: there is a Hardware Adaptation Developer Kit if you are not afraid of the involved work | 16:47 |
| tbr | people are in #sailfishos-porters | 16:47 |
| systemclient | tbr: I think I do not have the technical skills, I just know C++ and Linux. I have not worked with Qt really ... | 16:48 |
| tbr | systemclient: this is more kernel level and close to it | 16:49 |
| systemclient | tbr: you mean like in Linux kernel? I think I have even less experience there. I just program with Python and C++ to create end-user applications | 16:49 |
| tbr | then the answer for you is: no you can't | 16:51 |
| tbr | also sailfish is not intended for such big devices (yet) | 16:51 |
| tbr | so it would likely feel a bit awkward | 16:51 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmmhmm | 16:59 |
| tortoisedoc | ahoi sailors! | 16:59 |
| tortoisedoc | i tried recently to enable core dumps on sailfishos | 16:59 |
| tortoisedoc | (device) | 16:59 |
| tortoisedoc | following this : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-core-dumps.html | 17:00 |
| tortoisedoc | and | 17:00 |
| tortoisedoc | http://visualgdb.com/tutorials/linux/coredump/ | 17:00 |
| tortoisedoc | but no luck :| | 17:00 |
| tortoisedoc | (i.e. no core dump is generated) | 17:00 |
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| tortoisedoc | has anyone ever had issues in generating core dumps on sailfish os? | 17:07 |
| tbr | there is a crash reporter somewhere. it automates all that. | 17:08 |
| tortoisedoc | tbr : where can I find more info? | 17:09 |
| tbr | no idea | 17:09 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 17:09 |
| tortoisedoc | you mean there is a crash reporter in sailfish os | 17:10 |
| tortoisedoc | ah in mer | 17:10 |
| tortoisedoc | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/mer-qa:devel/crash-reporter | 17:10 |
| tortoisedoc | devel ;_; | 17:11 |
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| lukedirtwalker | Morpog_PC: ping | 17:25 |
| Morpog_PC | hi | 17:25 |
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| lukedirtwalker | can you test the version I posted on TMO? | 17:25 |
| Morpog_PC | sure | 17:26 |
| BasilSemuonov | tortoisedoc, make sure you allowed for any user. (or do that as root). http://pastebin.com/sn0ZZbJY | 17:27 |
| Morpog_PC | argh, need to delete local files again, crashes on startup... | 17:29 |
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| lukedirtwalker | hehe that isn't fixed in that version :P | 17:32 |
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| Morpog_PC | lukedirtwalker, it's better, but still louder | 17:34 |
| Morpog_PC | or wait | 17:37 |
| Morpog_PC | lukedirtwalker, trying with other files from good source | 17:37 |
| Morpog_PC | it seems to be same volume | 17:38 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe a tiny bit louder still | 17:38 |
| Morpog_PC | good job! | 17:38 |
| lukedirtwalker | Great :), its a simple call to libspotify. Other changes would be harder. | 17:39 |
| Morpog_PC | would be good to have that as default, as it could kill peoples ears when changing from normal media player to cutespotify | 17:41 |
| Morpog_PC | especially with ear plugs | 17:41 |
| lainwir3d | true :) | 17:41 |
| lainwir3d | Morpog_PC: you are the developer of cutespotify ? | 17:42 |
| lukedirtwalker | will do | 17:42 |
| Morpog_PC | no, lukedirtwalker is | 17:42 |
| lainwir3d | yeah, sorry, I meant lukedirtwalker. | 17:42 |
| lukedirtwalker | well I'm currently working on it yes | 17:42 |
| lainwir3d | lukedirtwalker: any chance of support MPRIS dbus interface in cutespotify ? | 17:42 |
| Morpog_PC | he has taken over as elleo is too busy | 17:43 |
| lukedirtwalker | lainwir3d: chance yes but, not to soon. And help me by telling me how to test | 17:43 |
| lainwir3d | hmmm. My futur app will permit to test it I guess. | 17:44 |
| lukedirtwalker | great so let me know when you have it | 17:45 |
| lukedirtwalker | or do pull requests directly ;) | 17:45 |
| Morpog_PC | if I would have more free time, I would try to help a bit with design, but my qml skills are limited and my time even more :D | 17:46 |
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| lukedirtwalker | currently backend is more challenging, qml is just time consuming, but quite easy | 17:49 |
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| lainwir3d | lukedirtwalker: oh, the source is available ? Where ? | 17:54 |
| Morpog_PC | github | 17:54 |
| lainwir3d | nice | 17:54 |
| lainwir3d | I might do it then when I need it. | 17:55 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/lukedirtwalker/cutespotify | 17:55 |
| lainwir3d | Currently only QuasarMX supports MPRIS (with buffy utf-8 on asian characters) | 17:55 |
| lainwir3d | s/buffy/buggy | 17:55 |
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| lukedirtwalker | lainwir3d: yeah on github see Morpog_PC s link. But note that it is quite WIP atm, on different branches, but I'll happily integrate your changes, or feel free to do your own fork ;) | 18:00 |
| lainwir3d | all right ;) | 18:01 |
| lainwir3d | have to go | 18:01 |
| lainwir3d | see you tomorrow | 18:01 |
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| smoku | walokra: moved to bitbucket | 18:14 |
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| walokra | smoku: ok, link? | 18:16 |
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| smoku | http://dev.xiaoka.com/flappy | 18:18 |
| smoku | walokra: are you aware that flappy was removed from Jolla Store today? | 18:19 |
| walokra | smoku: no, just installed it today | 18:19 |
| smoku | walokra: (it may affect your post ;-) ) | 18:20 |
| smoku | lucky you ;-) | 18:20 |
| walokra | thanks for the info | 18:20 |
| walokra | what was the reason? | 18:20 |
| smoku | walokra: i.e. Jolla staff removed it - not me... | 18:20 |
| walokra | they didn't tell why? | 18:20 |
| smoku | walokra: they are not sure its legal status, thus want to be safe than sorry | 18:21 |
| Morpog_PC__ | phew, good that I updated it already, it's alot better than the old version | 18:21 |
| Morpog_PC__ | or did I update via openrepos, hmmmm | 18:22 |
| smoku | it's on OpenRepos | 18:22 |
| Morpog_PC__ | aaah, there I did it | 18:22 |
| smoku | there are some cool new features baked in and all known bugs fixed | 18:22 |
| walokra | smoku: ok, that what I also thought | 18:22 |
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| smoku | any advice how to proceed? should I rename it? | 18:26 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well, I guess rename it, chane icon, change all graphics | 18:27 |
| walokra | or maybe the graphics are too much like super mario | 18:27 |
| Morpog_PC__ | and change all sounds | 18:27 |
| smoku | that's the point - if you want it with changed name, graphics, sound - just install Saily Fish from the store... | 18:28 |
| smoku | it would loose all its appeal | 18:28 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | naaah, gameplay would still be the same | 18:31 |
| Morpog_PC__ | sailfishy plays totally different | 18:32 |
| smoku | lukedirtwalker: my pebbled works as MPRIS remote... but you need Pebble for that... ;-) | 18:32 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | why the hell have I opened two instancex of hexchat :D | 18:32 |
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| rkz | hey guys, anyone got any good examples on how to read information from the tracker database? | 18:42 |
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| lukedirtwalker | smoku: i know but I don't own a Pebble | 18:52 |
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| smoku | lukedirtwalker: anyway. qdbus and/or dbus-send are enough tools to test MPRIS interface. it's extremely simple | 18:55 |
| kimmoli | Morpog_PC__: aa, that... i just searched from wrong place | 19:00 |
| Morpog_PC__ | yep that, seems to use localstorage | 19:00 |
| Morpog_PC__ | iirc | 19:00 |
| kimmoli | sql | 19:00 |
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| kimmoli | hmm, doable | 19:01 |
| Morpog_PC__ | you would migrate me as a user to your app that way :D | 19:01 |
| kimmoli | :p | 19:03 |
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| lukedirtwalker | Hm I think I just found a cover page bug: If I directly implement it like: cover: CoverBackground { ... Label{} } the label text is bold and if I do cover: Qt.resolvedUrl("Cover.qml") it works as expected | 19:37 |
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| space_llama | lukedirtwalker, can confirm. I eperience the same. | 19:46 |
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| lukedirtwalker | should I post on TJC ? | 19:47 |
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| space_llama | I guess so. I only tried it in the sdk though. Did you try on a unit? | 19:49 |
| lukedirtwalker | jop | 19:50 |
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| lukedirtwalker | Issue actually is in cutespotify | 19:51 |
| space_llama | ah, okay | 19:52 |
| crlf | hi - I am writing my first sailfish app - trying to hande settings via qsettings but don't know how to implement it in QML - could you please help? | 19:52 |
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| lukedirtwalker | space_llama: feel free to improve: https://together.jolla.com/question/52277/bug-cover-page-label-bug/ | 20:02 |
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| space_llama | I have no idea of the cause, so I don't really have much to add. I just tried it and noticed the same effect. | 20:11 |
| space_llama | I was actually looking at cutespotify so that was the one I tested... So nothing to add | 20:12 |
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| lukedirtwalker | space_llama: pm | 20:26 |
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| gogeta | hi SfietKonstantin | 20:33 |
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| smoku | crlf: leave qsettings alone. use dconf - it is much easier. | 20:49 |
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| smoku | crlf: see https://github.com/smokku/pebble/blob/master/app/qml/pages/ManagerPage.qml#L40 | 20:50 |
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