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| RaYmAn | Is there a hard requirement for android 4.2 for porting sailfish? The manual only seems to mention 4.2 - I'm looking into porting to a device where the earliest available is 4.4. If it's possible, is there anything you need to setup right to get it working? (because of the rather large HAL Api changes I mean) | 07:53 |
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| Stskeeps | well, we have 4.4 and jolla runs 4.1.* | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | as well | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | it's just that we didn't update the docs ;) 4.4 is nexus 5 for example | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_Sailfish_OS_for_Nexus_5 | 07:55 |
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| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: also, #sailfishos-porters (herodes til pilatus.) | 08:11 |
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| lainwir3d | hi ! | 08:24 |
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| Sailor2400_ | Hello | 08:48 |
| Armadillo | hi | 08:48 |
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| Sailor2400_ | I am using IRC in Jolla, how cN I change my push name? | 08:49 |
| Nicd- | push name? | 08:50 |
| Tofe_ | /nick nickname ? | 08:50 |
| Armadillo | you're talking about your nick name? | 08:50 |
| Armadillo | in that case do what Tofe_ said :) | 08:50 |
| Sailor2400_ | Yes my nickname | 08:51 |
| Sailor2400_ | my name now is sailor2400 | 08:51 |
| Sailor2400_ | quite meaningless... | 08:51 |
| Armadillo | see above... | 08:52 |
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| SaberAltria | WoW, this is a cool function | 08:53 |
| Nicd- | you should also be able to change the default nickname in the settings | 08:53 |
| SaberAltria | the settings page only shows option about haptic effects and font size... | 08:54 |
| Armadillo | do a long press on the network on the first page | 08:55 |
| Armadillo | in the context menu there's an "edit" menu item | 08:55 |
| Armadillo | there you can set your default nickname | 08:55 |
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| Hartzi | SaberAltria: The first time on IRC? | 08:55 |
| Armadillo | seems so^^ | 08:55 |
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| Sailor2400_ | Testing | 08:56 |
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| SaberAltria | Done | 08:59 |
| Armadillo | :) | 08:59 |
| SaberAltria | Thz So Much XDD | 08:59 |
| SaberAltria | 😘 | 09:00 |
| Armadillo | np | 09:00 |
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| sandsmark | coderus: sorry, got drunk :) | 11:32 |
| sandsmark | coderus: but you somehow need to get fiddler to sniff the traffic | 11:32 |
| sandsmark | I'm not sure if it can do that, it seems to be an active interceptor | 11:32 |
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| coderus | sandsmark: yesterday i succeded :) | 12:32 |
| sandsmark | :D | 12:32 |
| sandsmark | awesome | 12:32 |
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| tortoisedoc | would anyone be able to quickly check quickbar on 1.0.8.21 ? | 12:34 |
| tortoisedoc | (i.e. current store version) | 12:34 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: hi | 12:35 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : hi! | 12:35 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: about what you asked me earlier, I'll come back to you next week as we need to investigate the issue more thoroughly :) | 12:35 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : the symlink you mean? | 12:36 |
| nazanin | yup | 12:36 |
| tortoisedoc | ok :) | 12:37 |
| tortoisedoc | great to see it's a discussion point :) | 12:37 |
| tortoisedoc | thanks for coming back with it | 12:37 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: wanned to ping you quite a few time since morning, but you were not online. I just saw your nick now while switching between channels :P | 12:38 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: thanks for asking about it :) | 12:38 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : yeah been busy at work :D | 12:38 |
| nazanin | same here :D | 12:38 |
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| tortoisedoc | nazanin : would it be possible for you to make a quickcheck on 1.0.8.21 of quickbar? | 12:41 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: mmm, yeah, what do you want to be checked exactly? | 12:42 |
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| tortoisedoc | nazanin : when adding app to favorites, it seems on 1.0.8.21 quickbar does not show fav icon after press&hold | 12:43 |
| tortoisedoc | i cant check it :/ | 12:43 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: you want it check right-away, or can I come back to you in half an hour? | 12:44 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : if you have the time to check it at all, it is already awesome :) no hurry | 12:44 |
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| nazanin | tortoisedoc: ok, will let you know about it :) | 12:45 |
| tortoisedoc | awesome, thanks! | 12:46 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | lost folders after connmand crash | 13:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is it possible ? | 13:14 |
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| nazanin | tortoisedoc: as far as I can see, pressing,holding, and swiping the app icon to left does not add it to favorites | 13:35 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : | 13:37 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : thanks! | 13:37 |
| nazanin | no prob | 13:37 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : in particular, | 13:37 |
| nazanin | tortoisedoc: the apps will be swipped to the left, but not added to favorites | 13:37 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : can you see if the favourites icon appears after you press&hold? | 13:37 |
| tortoisedoc | (should appear to the left of the quickbar) | 13:38 |
| nazanin | nothing appears when I press and hold | 13:38 |
| tortoisedoc | (at the same height of the item you are pressing & holding) | 13:38 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 13:38 |
| tortoisedoc | I need another jolla :D | 13:38 |
| nazanin | :D | 13:39 |
| tortoisedoc | w3eird | 13:39 |
| tortoisedoc | its basically qmkl | 13:39 |
| tortoisedoc | qml | 13:39 |
| tortoisedoc | why would it work on uitukka | 13:39 |
| tortoisedoc | but not on previous release | 13:39 |
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| nazanin | tortoisedoc: I can check that on both releases and let you know about it, but not now... need to rush and go for now :) | 13:40 |
| tortoisedoc | nazanin : thanks for your help! very much appreciated !:) | 13:40 |
| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 13:40 |
| tortoisedoc | I wonder | 13:40 |
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| tortoisedoc | can I setup virtualenvs on my jolla | 13:40 |
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| tortoisedoc | I mean | 13:40 |
| tortoisedoc | all I need | 13:40 |
| tortoisedoc | is the qtruntime, right | 13:41 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm also | 13:46 |
| tortoisedoc | does the jolla contain both qt 5.1 and 5.2 | 13:46 |
| tortoisedoc | or just the 5.2 | 13:46 |
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| sandsmark | I doubt that they are co-installable | 13:47 |
| sandsmark | but it is backwards compatible | 13:47 |
| tortoisedoc | yes | 13:47 |
| tortoisedoc | ok, so this means if i want to get virtualenv to run my qt 5.1 | 13:47 |
| tortoisedoc | * to run my app in qt 5.1, i will need the libs from qt 5.1 | 13:48 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 13:48 |
| tortoisedoc | seems i need to get virtual env to run first too.. | 13:48 |
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| tortoisedoc | (assuming that is possible in the first place) | 13:49 |
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| King_DuckZ | hello, a couple weeks ago I received an email announcing that an update for sailfish was finally available, but I haven't seen anything on my mobile yet... in the settings I see 1.0.8.21 | 14:30 |
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| King_DuckZ | is anything wrong with my mobile or what's happening? | 14:31 |
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| Plnt | King_DuckZ: the last update is not distributed automatically. it's something like a public beta version. you have to opt-in. | 14:34 |
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| Plnt | King_DuckZ: instructions on how to do that are here .. https://together.jolla.com/question/59874/release-notes-opt-in-upgrade-to-software-version-11038-uitukka/ | 14:35 |
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| Plnt | King_DuckZ: but be careful and read the release notes first | 14:35 |
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| King_DuckZ | Plnt: thanks, so the update will eventually come out for everybody? | 14:45 |
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| King_DuckZ | btw I went through the page Plnt linked, but I see nothing about memory cards... did they fix all the issues with the memory card? that's basically the only reason I'm waiting for an update (along with voice over xmpp) | 14:46 |
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| cos- | http://jolla.com/ | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | that's interesting | 15:09 |
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| cos- | a lot of speculation what it'll be | 15:12 |
| beidl | something "BIG"... has someone ported sailfish to giraffes? | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | supposedly danes kill giraffes. | 15:13 |
| marinaio | 1 year has passed since the announcement of the first jolla phone, it might be jolla 2, maybe with a 5'' screen | 15:13 |
| beidl | Stskeeps: s/kill/brick/ | 15:14 |
| sandsmark | maybe they're making a windows phone :p | 15:14 |
| ln- | sandsmark: that's what i suggested, and it would certainly be BIG news. | 15:15 |
| sandsmark | exactly, but not really good news :p | 15:15 |
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| beidl | hm, would be very cool to see a new device but I JUST got myself a Jolla phone | 15:16 |
| SK_work | marinaio: one year ? more than one yaer | 15:16 |
| marinaio | beidl: did you buy it for 249 eur? because a new device would also explain the 100 eur discount | 15:17 |
| coderus | searching for working ssdp client/discovery implementation for qt5 | 15:17 |
| beidl | marinaio: €269 incl. shipping to austria | 15:18 |
| marinaio | ok | 15:19 |
| sandsmark | well, they might have been so liberal with the vouchers for a reason | 15:19 |
| sandsmark | trying to empty out their stock before launching a new device | 15:19 |
| tortoisedoc | YES I need another jolla! :D | 15:20 |
| tortoisedoc | excellent timing! | 15:20 |
| SK_work | coderus: good luck :/ | 15:20 |
| tortoisedoc | I can buy the new one and revert the first one (haha) to factory then upgrade to tahkalampi and use it to test Quickbar | 15:20 |
| tortoisedoc | result :success :D | 15:20 |
| SK_work | isn't there any C / C++ implementation ? | 15:20 |
| tortoisedoc | ssdp? | 15:21 |
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| sandsmark | hmm, it is a part of upnp? | 15:21 |
| tortoisedoc | I think i recall it from some uberold maemo repo`? | 15:22 |
| sandsmark | probably easier to find a upnp library | 15:22 |
| sandsmark | hupnp seems to be a upnp implementation in qt | 15:22 |
| coderus | yeah some upnp listener can alsp help | 15:22 |
| sandsmark | http://hupnp.linada.fi/ | 15:23 |
| sandsmark | https://code.google.com/p/qupnp/ | 15:23 |
| tortoisedoc | damn | 15:23 |
| tortoisedoc | luckily i did not spend 400 € for slush ticekt | 15:23 |
| tortoisedoc | now I have money for new jolla :D | 15:23 |
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| daitheflu | I really wonder what they're going to release | 15:29 |
| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : a toaster :P | 15:29 |
| daitheflu | tortoisedoc: too thin :D | 15:29 |
| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : it's a quantum toaster :P | 15:30 |
| tortoisedoc | no need to be wide :D | 15:30 |
| * VDVsx needs a fridge with sailfishOS | 15:30 | |
| cos- | 2015 calendar of sailor's mamas? | 15:30 |
| daitheflu | lol | 15:30 |
| tortoisedoc | wow | 15:30 |
| tortoisedoc | that I definitely would buy :P | 15:31 |
| Morpog_PC | guys I bet it'S a tablet | 15:31 |
| Morpog_PC | http://jaakkoroppola.blogspot.fi/2014/10/multi-touch-and-bigger-screens.html | 15:31 |
| daitheflu | Morpog_PC: that's also my first idea, they also talked about UI scaling for the next update of SailfishOS | 15:32 |
| SK_work | Morpog_PC: daitheflu as said on #jollamobile, no intersting commit seen in nemomobile MW though | 15:33 |
| daitheflu | but I don't really see the point to have a tablet running SailfishOS, considering the small amount of natives apps :/ | 15:33 |
| Morpog_PC | SK_work, they could have it in an internal fork which they PR "soon" | 15:34 |
| SK_work | Morpog_PC: meh | 15:34 |
| Morpog_PC | the Google way :D | 15:35 |
| SK_work | if they do so, it would spoil their 24h open thing | 15:35 |
| SK_work | :( | 15:35 |
| SK_work | it is quite bad | 15:35 |
| daitheflu | my second guess is a OH, it really looks like one | 15:36 |
| locusf | the tablet implementation of jolla-home requires portrait, tried it on landscape-only tablet, didn't work too well | 15:36 |
| SK_work | daitheflu: +1 | 15:36 |
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| SK_work | daitheflu: is a toh something big ? | 15:37 |
| SK_work | tohkbd, jolla-made ? :D | 15:37 |
| nimmersatt | i amm wondering too. | 15:37 |
| nimmersatt | letz bet | 15:37 |
| daitheflu | SK_work: I don't really think so, but that's all I can imagine | 15:37 |
| SK_work | daitheflu: a toh, that doubles as a tablet | 15:38 |
| SK_work | put two jollas connected with a toh | 15:38 |
| SK_work | you got a tablet | 15:38 |
| nimmersatt | good idea :o | 15:38 |
| Morpog_PC | a jolla made tohkbd would instantly kill funkytoh | 15:39 |
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| SK_work | Morpog_PC: yep | 15:41 |
| SK_work | I hope people involved in tohkbd talked to jolla first | 15:42 |
| SK_work | also, I don't thik that jolla need to do a tohkbd | 15:42 |
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| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : a kb oh? | 15:46 |
| anYc | as far as I understood they worked closely with jolla on the kbd | 15:47 |
| tortoisedoc | sooo | 15:47 |
| tortoisedoc | it COULD be | 15:47 |
| tortoisedoc | also they raised crapton of cash :D | 15:47 |
| daitheflu | tortoisedoc: I don't think so, I hope not, that would be sad for TOHKBD team | 15:48 |
| lainwir3d | Jolla 2 ? :-/ | 15:48 |
| tortoisedoc | daitheflu : but maybe its the same device, but officialized? | 15:48 |
| SK_work | need Jolla 2 | 15:48 |
| SK_work | Jolla 1 is ok, but feels underpowered | 15:48 |
| SK_work | even if I had a lot of fun with it :) | 15:49 |
| Morpog_PC | Jolla 1 just has too less RAM | 15:49 |
| SK_work | Morpog_PC: indeed | 15:50 |
| SK_work | 3 gigs of ram plz ? | 15:50 |
| daitheflu | tortoisedoc: seems too thin imho | 15:50 |
| daitheflu | I also doubt they were able to build something for a tablet or a Jolla 2 | 15:51 |
| Morpog_PC | hah, its a 6" smartwatch powered by SailfishOS :D | 15:51 |
| daitheflu | SK_work: a RAMTOH then ? ^^ | 15:51 |
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| SK_work | daitheflu: lol :) | 15:52 |
| Morpog_PC | daitheflu, forget it with i2c :D | 15:52 |
| giucam | ramtoh over i2c, sounds amazing :P | 15:53 |
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| daitheflu | let's kickstart it :D | 15:54 |
| anYc | a toh to combine two jollas and a new QtMPI class | 15:54 |
| SK_work | QtMPI ? | 15:57 |
| SK_work | message apssing interface ? | 15:57 |
| anYc | so you can use all 4 cores! | 15:57 |
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| SK_work | anYc: perfs would be quite bad | 15:59 |
| SK_work | but why not :) | 15:59 |
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| anYc | just kidding :) | 16:00 |
| SK_work | anYc: :) | 16:00 |
| coderus | ahah, whatsapp enabled end-to-end encryption using whispersystems TextSecure | 16:01 |
| Morpog_PC | so we're doomed soon? | 16:01 |
| * Morpog_PC refuses to uninstall mitakuuluu aslong as he can :D | 16:01 | |
| coderus | yeah, mitakuuluu soon couldn't receive messages :) | 16:01 |
| sandsmark | I guess textsecure is open source, but java? | 16:02 |
| sandsmark | so a pita to port :p | 16:02 |
| Morpog_PC | could you leave us on an old but supported protocol? | 16:02 |
| Morpog_PC | like the symbian one? | 16:02 |
| sandsmark | hmm, it uses protobufs | 16:03 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: no i wont create special client on old protocol for you, lol :D | 16:04 |
| Morpog_PC | :D | 16:05 |
| coderus | found ssdp and succeded, libupnp have everything i need | 16:06 |
| coderus | now need to build libupnp for jolla :D | 16:06 |
| * VDVsx wonders how firefoxOS can use whatsapp since their client is also not official | 16:06 | |
| coderus | or maybe nemomobile have something similar already? | 16:06 |
| phaeron | coderus: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/gupnp | 16:07 |
| sandsmark | VDVsx: maybe they have an agreement? | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | VDVsx: webapp? | 16:07 |
| sandsmark | ugh, glib | 16:07 |
| VDVsx | is it possible to use whatsapp over web ? without using the protocol ? | 16:08 |
| coderus | phaeron: gobject? :| | 16:08 |
| phaeron | coderus: well you don't need to use the low level lib, there is rygel | 16:08 |
| coderus | VDVsx: soon at https://web.whatsapp.com | 16:09 |
| sandsmark | I'd rather statically link in a sane library than use a glib library... | 16:09 |
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| sandsmark | phaeron: isn't that a server, not a library? | 16:09 |
| phaeron | yes , but I don't know what coderus wants to do | 16:10 |
| sandsmark | and still written in glib, so a pain to use | 16:10 |
| sandsmark | phaeron: send and receive ssdp stuff, I think | 16:10 |
| phaeron | was just pointing out there are components already | 16:10 |
| coderus | phaeron: i just need discover features | 16:10 |
| coderus | UpnpSearchAsync from libupnp looks good | 16:11 |
| phaeron | ok :) | 16:11 |
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| nimmersatt | just a theoretical question: would it be possible to port another mobile OS on TOH? | 16:50 |
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| SK_work | nimmersatt: on TOH ? | 16:52 |
| SK_work | what's TOH ? | 16:52 |
| SK_work | it is the physical part on the other side of the phone | 16:52 |
| SK_work | so ... well, you cannot | 16:52 |
| SK_work | maybe you meant the Jolla ? | 16:52 |
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| nimmersatt | i mean the phone | 16:56 |
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| SK_work | nimmersatt: what OS are you thinking of ? | 16:56 |
| SK_work | iOS, Windows Phone, BB10 are out | 16:57 |
| SK_work | Android maybe (as Jolla shares a lot of features with android), but you will need some effort to do so | 16:57 |
| SK_work | Ubuntu touch and Tizen maybe too | 16:57 |
| SK_work | nobody tried | 16:57 |
| SK_work | as you miss a way to reflash the Jolla | 16:57 |
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| nimmersatt | okay thanks :0 | 17:16 |
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| coderus | Sailfish SDK offended on me :D | 19:11 |
| coderus | lost highlight | 19:11 |
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| coderus | i didnt opened it for a long time, used harmattan and ubuntu sdk, and now sailfish sdk not working :D | 19:13 |
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| sandsmark | haha | 19:18 |
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| coderus | and suddenly i have no sdk 1407 installed. downloading it now :D | 19:27 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | PHABLET! :D | 19:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thats it :P | 19:39 |
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| giucam | what about a laphtop? that sounds better | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | phablop | 19:42 |
| ln- | elop | 19:43 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | ephlop? :D | 19:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 19:47 |
| tortoisedoc_ | does a virtualenv for non-python sw exist? | 19:47 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i think scratchbox is the closest that comes to mind... | 19:47 |
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