Thursday, 2014-11-20

*** Andy80 has quit IRC00:02
*** ulvus has joined #sailfishos00:04
ulvusHi from denmark00:05
*** ionstorm has quit IRC00:11
*** ulvus has left #sailfishos00:33
*** roboro has quit IRC00:34
*** disharmonic has quit IRC00:35
*** olafh has quit IRC00:35
*** N-Mi_ has quit IRC00:35
*** zalan has quit IRC00:40
*** RoboD has joined #sailfishos00:53
*** nidelius has quit IRC01:01
*** Wesbluemarine has joined #sailfishos01:03
*** forgrimm has quit IRC01:03
*** Wesbluemarine has left #sailfishos01:04
*** zalan has joined #sailfishos01:14
*** Behold has quit IRC01:14
*** tat has joined #sailfishos01:14
*** Anz_ has joined #sailfishos01:32
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC01:34
*** zhxt_work has quit IRC01:45
*** Tachyx has joined #sailfishos01:47
*** zhxt_work has joined #sailfishos01:58
*** Tachyx has left #sailfishos02:07
*** flywheel_ has quit IRC02:15
*** marxistvegan has joined #sailfishos02:20
*** marxistvegan has quit IRC02:21
*** marxistvegan has joined #sailfishos02:21
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos02:26
*** fracting has quit IRC02:32
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos02:44
*** SaberAltria has joined #sailfishos02:54
SaberAltriaQuestion about the Video {  } in QtMultimedia 5.002:55
SaberAltriaI wonder if it is possible to play the online video without full buffer with Video {  }02:56
SaberAltriaI did many tests and found that it only starts to play when the bufferProgress === 102:57
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC03:23
*** Sailor11736_ has quit IRC03:38
*** gexc-phone has joined #sailfishos03:52
*** zalan has quit IRC03:54
*** zalan has joined #sailfishos03:54
*** zalan_ has joined #sailfishos03:57
*** zalan has quit IRC03:59
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos03:59
*** flash1 has quit IRC04:06
*** RoboD has quit IRC04:07
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos04:15
*** flash1 has quit IRC04:17
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos04:24
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC04:28
*** spiiroin_ has joined #sailfishos04:41
*** spiiroin has quit IRC04:43
*** martyone has joined #sailfishos04:46
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos04:46
*** furikku has joined #sailfishos04:48
*** gexc-phone has quit IRC04:51
*** spiiroin_ has quit IRC04:51
*** flash1 has quit IRC04:52
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos04:58
*** flash1 has quit IRC05:00
*** fracting has quit IRC05:05
*** spiiroin has joined #sailfishos05:14
*** spiiroin has quit IRC05:19
*** filippz has joined #sailfishos05:25
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos05:25
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos05:27
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC05:29
*** spiiroin has joined #sailfishos05:31
*** crazy_imp has quit IRC05:31
*** crazy_imp has joined #sailfishos05:33
*** fracting has quit IRC05:39
*** VDVsx has quit IRC05:40
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos05:44
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos05:47
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC05:52
*** f3an0r has joined #sailfishos05:52
*** VDVsx has joined #sailfishos05:53
*** ericcc has joined #sailfishos05:54
*** gexc has joined #sailfishos05:58
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos06:00
*** marxistvegan has quit IRC06:03
*** IgorSK has joined #sailfishos06:04
*** ottulo has joined #sailfishos06:08
*** Yomi has quit IRC06:10
*** ottulonen has quit IRC06:11
*** smokex has quit IRC06:12
*** ottulonen has joined #sailfishos06:12
*** FireFly has quit IRC06:13
*** ottulo has quit IRC06:13
*** FireFly has joined #sailfishos06:13
*** smokex has joined #sailfishos06:14
*** Yomi has joined #sailfishos06:19
*** ottulo has joined #sailfishos06:21
*** ottulonen has quit IRC06:24
*** ottulonen has joined #sailfishos06:32
*** ottulo has quit IRC06:35
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos06:43
*** pat_o has quit IRC06:45
*** ottulo_ has joined #sailfishos06:46
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos06:48
*** olafh has joined #sailfishos06:49
*** ottulo has joined #sailfishos06:49
*** pat_o_ is now known as pat_o06:49
*** ericcc has quit IRC06:50
*** ottulonen has quit IRC06:50
*** ericcc has joined #sailfishos06:51
*** ottulo_ has quit IRC06:51
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC06:52
*** pat_o has quit IRC06:57
*** Morpog_PC__ has joined #sailfishos06:58
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos06:59
*** Morpog_PC has quit IRC07:01
*** Sequenced has quit IRC07:02
*** Morpog_PC__ has quit IRC07:02
*** Sequenced has joined #sailfishos07:02
*** ericcc has quit IRC07:04
*** ericcc has joined #sailfishos07:04
*** neurosis- has joined #sailfishos07:07
*** jhakala1 has joined #sailfishos07:12
stephgmorning guys07:14
*** jhakala has quit IRC07:15
*** Sail0r has joined #sailfishos07:18
*** gabriel9 has quit IRC07:23
*** dirkvl has joined #sailfishos07:24
*** Guhl has joined #sailfishos07:29
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos07:30
*** roboro has joined #sailfishos07:30
*** neurosis- has left #sailfishos07:34
*** flash1 has quit IRC07:35
*** dirkvl has quit IRC07:41
*** lainwir3d has joined #sailfishos07:44
*** pat_o has quit IRC07:48
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos07:49
*** Sail0r has quit IRC07:49
*** Sail0r has joined #sailfishos07:49
*** ericcc_ has joined #sailfishos07:49
*** ericcc has quit IRC07:49
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos07:51
*** TW1920_ has joined #sailfishos07:52
*** Guhl has quit IRC07:53
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC07:53
*** TW1920 has quit IRC07:54
*** valdur55 has quit IRC08:00
*** cxl000 has joined #sailfishos08:01
*** gabriel9|work has joined #sailfishos08:01
*** valdur55 has joined #sailfishos08:01
*** IgorSK has quit IRC08:02
*** gabriel9|work has quit IRC08:03
*** gabriel9|work has joined #sailfishos08:03
*** gabriel9 has joined #sailfishos08:10
*** gabriel9|work has quit IRC08:10
*** niktrix_ has joined #sailfishos08:17
*** SaberAltria has quit IRC08:17
niktrix_when will jolla phone get sailfishos update ?08:18
cryoratniktrix_, sooooon :D08:19
cryoratwhen the 1.10 considered stable08:19
niktrix_currently am using
niktrix_is there any update after that08:19
cryoratso am i08:19
cryorat1.10 is out for user testing08:20
Armadilloat least 2.0 in may we hope :)08:20
cryoratlook up in the askbot page08:20
niktrix_and what abot the 2.0, will phone will get that update in future08:20
ArmadilloI'm pretty sure it will get this update08:20
cryoratprobably yes08:20
cryoratjolla 2 will be announced next year08:21
niktrix_am using sailfish for about 2 months08:21
cryoratbut when will they release jolla2 is a mistery08:21
niktrix_but i didnt found anything intresting08:21
Armadillowhat should be interesting?08:21
niktrix_Is there anything unlike than android08:21
cryoratiOS :DDDD08:22
Armadillonearly everything Oo08:22
niktrix_most of the taxi apps doesnt work as those app uses google services for map08:22
Nicd-the phone will get SFOS 2.0, the same OS will run on the phone and the tablet08:22
niktrix_i have to borrow friends mobile for booking taxi08:23
cryoratniktrix_, use google services then08:23
niktrix_neither doies kik works08:23
cryoratI dont need it now but im considering it because ingress whining about it08:23
cryoratuse telegram08:23
cryoratworks like a charm08:24
niktrix_google service there is no easy way to install it08:24
niktrix_there is a long process to do which i dont want to do08:24
Nicd-well, then you have to stop complaining :P08:25
Nicd-there isn't anything jolla can do about it08:25
niktrix_am not complaining08:25
niktrix_am saying  may be there is solution for that thats it08:26
*** jjanvier has joined #sailfishos08:26
Armadillothere isn't08:26
Armadilloinstead of the ones mentioned above08:26
Nicd-the only solution is to install google play services08:26
niktrix_is it ok if i ask few more question, just am  not complaining08:27
Nicd-sure you can ask08:27
*** daitheflu has joined #sailfishos08:28
niktrix_which browser you use08:28
niktrix_for jolla08:28
Nicd-the native browser or android opera08:28
Armadillonative one08:28
niktrix_and which native application you use frequently08:28
ArmadilloBrowser, IRC, Mail, TaskList08:30
*** kunev has joined #sailfishos08:30
niktrix_thanks Nicd-  Armadillo cryorat08:30
Nicd-phone, messaging, clock, calendar, sailtime, nysset, camera, flashlight, file browser, people, carbudget, lighthouse, weecrapp, screenshot...08:30
niktrix_where will i get weecrapp08:31
niktrix_its not in jollastore08:32
niktrix_and warehouse08:32
Nicd-it's not released yet, it's my app. :) and it's only of use if you run weechat08:32
niktrix_you are also making apps for sailfish08:33
niktrix_have you released any in store08:33
Armadillowell this is the developer channel ;)08:33
Armadillomany of us are releasing apps on the store :)08:33
Armadillojust released tasklist 1.1 :P08:34
Nicd-niktrix_: sailtime is my app too08:34
niktrix_Nicd-, am using sailtime from the 1st day i bout phone08:35
niktrix_Nicd-, am using sailtime from the 1st day i bought phone08:35
Nicd-I'm glad if you found it useful08:36
niktrix_yes it is :)08:36
niktrix_do you guys make apps for other os too ?08:37
Nicd-I haven't, I mostly do web stuff08:37
*** h0wser has joined #sailfishos08:38
ArmadilloSailfish is my first time to develop mobile apps, too08:38
niktrix_Armadillo, installed tasklist, not used much. but i like that lock oriientation option, all apps should have this option08:38
Nicd-niktrix_: you can also temporarily lock orientation by holding your finger on the screen when turning the phone08:39
niktrix_Nicd-, nice it works08:40
h0wseri just found out about sailfish, where can i find information about installing it to my phone?08:41
*** Kabouik has quit IRC08:41
niktrix_h0wser, which phone ?08:41
h0wsergalaxy s308:41
niktrix_try looking in xda forums08:42
h0wserok thanks08:42
Armadilloor have a look at #sailfishos-porters08:42
*** misprint has joined #sailfishos08:44
niktrix_has anyone bought tablet ?08:44
ArmadilloI'm still struggeling08:45
Nicd-niktrix_: well, about 4000 people already apparently :)08:46
Nicd-I'm not going to buy it but I wish them the best08:47
niktrix_the video looks promising08:47
niktrix_do you have toh ?08:49
*** Nc_ has joined #sailfishos08:49
*** filippz has quit IRC08:49
Nicd-I have 3 (red "the first one", black and white)08:50
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos08:50
Nicd-I also preordered the keyboard (TOHKBD)08:50
niktrix_toh are not available in india, TOHKBD i found it very costly08:51
niktrix_am looking to get a 3d print of toh any tips for that08:51
*** dirkvl_j_ has joined #sailfishos08:52
Armadillocostly is relative if there's no alternative available08:52
niktrix_Armadillo, overpiced :)08:54
Armadillowell it is a small series08:54
Armadilloprice drops if you can sell thousands of pieces08:54
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC08:55
Armadillobut you can also get the source of tohkbd to do it on your own and maybe cheaper way ;)08:55
*** fracting has quit IRC08:58
dirkvl_j_sources will be open after camaign is done and all designs are final09:00
dirkvl_j_but i wish you the best of luck with building it cheaper ;)09:01
jwalckdirkvl_j_: given that you generally dont charge yourself for your own time, cheaper when you make it yourself is quite easy:)09:04
jwalckmaking it for someone else however...09:04
Armadilloadditionally, if it wouldn't be "that expensive" we wouldn't have any tohkbd on the horizon today09:05
Armadilloso the prize doesn't matter so much :)09:06
*** Kabouik has joined #sailfishos09:07
h0wsersailfish isn't based on android is it?09:08
Armadilloit is based on Mer09:09
SK_workh0wser: it can use Android hardware adaptation layer, via libhybris09:09
SK_workSailfish also uses an Android layer for Android apps compatibility09:09
SK_workbut you are free not to use it09:09
*** filippz has joined #sailfishos09:10
h0wserok, so what is mer?09:11
*** dirkvl_j_ has quit IRC09:11
h0wsercant figure out what part mer plays from looking at the wiki09:12
jwalckh0wser: and from a historic point, mer heralds from meego which in itself came from maemo and moblin09:13
h0wserok, thanks alot09:13
*** ecloud_wfh is now known as ecloud09:13
*** N-Mi_ has joined #sailfishos09:15
SK_workcybette: you there ?09:15
*** Sailor11736_ has joined #sailfishos09:17
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos09:17
*** zhxt_work has quit IRC09:17
*** h0wser has quit IRC09:18
*** h0wser has joined #sailfishos09:19
cybetteSK_work: what's up?09:22
Armadillocybette I don't know what SK_work needs, but I recognized there's no next community meeting date on TJC09:23
Armadilloit's still november 4th09:23
SK_workArmadillo: thanks: cybette ^09:23
Armadilloah :D09:24
*** jpnurmi has quit IRC09:29
cybetteyes! thanks for the reminder, I have it on my todo list to udpate TJC and send email to mailing list, but the slush todo list overrode everything :P09:30
SK_workcybette: that's what I expected09:30
SK_workthat's why I waited for slush + 1day to ping you :)09:31
*** twixx has joined #sailfishos09:31
*** zGrr has joined #sailfishos09:35
*** jpnurmi has joined #sailfishos09:36
*** zhxt_work has joined #sailfishos09:37
*** Blizzz has joined #sailfishos09:37
cybetteSK_work: ok thanks :) aim to do that asap, although todo list keeps growing (slush is over but campaign is only getting started!)09:37
*** zGrr has quit IRC09:39
SK_workcybette: indeed09:39
SK_worknot tired to do +5$, add perk ?09:39
*** SaberAltria has joined #sailfishos09:40
*** ottulonen has joined #sailfishos09:40
*** M4rtinK has joined #sailfishos09:41
SaberAltriaError: nothing provides needed by harbour-hktv-0.1-1.armv7hl09:41
SaberAltriaHow to solve this?09:41
*** ottulo has quit IRC09:44
SaberAltriaI have added this "QT += multimediawidgets" in .pro09:44
*** fracting has quit IRC09:44
SK_workhi SaberAltria !09:46
SK_workare you targetting harbour ?09:46
*** ottulo_ has joined #sailfishos09:46
SK_workif no, you cannot use multimediawidgets09:46
SK_workif so, you cannot use multimediawidgets09:46
Acceor any widgets, afaik09:46
Acceqml, it is09:46
SaberAltriaOps... that means I have to find other alternatives ?09:47
*** ottulo has joined #sailfishos09:47
AcceWhat are you trying to do? show video or similar?09:48
SaberAltriaI use the videoWidget in C++. if so, what else can I use which has similar function ?09:48
SaberAltriaYes I want to play video09:48
SaberAltria@SK_work I am afraid that the qml one is not enough for me...09:49
*** hamphiterus has joined #sailfishos09:50
SaberAltriaI want to make a video player that can do online video streaming... but I found that the qml Video {  } and MediaPlayer {  }09:50
*** ottulonen has quit IRC09:50
*** ottulo_ has quit IRC09:50
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos09:51
SaberAltriacan only play the video until the video is fully buffered (  bufferProgress === 1 )09:51
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos09:51
*** pat_o has quit IRC09:52
*** artemma has quit IRC09:52
*** ericcc has joined #sailfishos09:52
*** ericcc_ has quit IRC09:53
SaberAltriaIs there a way to make this kind of thing ?09:53
*** ottulonen has joined #sailfishos09:53
*** tanuk has joined #sailfishos09:54
*** zGrr has joined #sailfishos09:54
*** arcean has joined #sailfishos09:55
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC09:55
*** artemma has joined #sailfishos09:55
*** ottulo_ has joined #sailfishos09:56
Acceit should be possible by using the corresponding c++ classes to implement a qml component which is capable of doing what you want.. but I'm not exactly sure how09:56
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC09:56
*** melonipoika has joined #sailfishos09:57
*** ottulo has quit IRC09:57
SK_workSaberAltria: did you tried ?09:57
SK_workis that true that you need bufferprogress === 1 ?09:58
*** ottulonen has quit IRC09:59
AcceSK_work: it states in the MediaPlayer docs so09:59
SK_workwrite your source to provide this09:59
*** ericcc has quit IRC10:00
*** grzywacz has quit IRC10:01
SaberAltriaSK_work: No, I mean I don't want the video only start to play until bufferProgress === 110:01
SK_workSaberAltria: if you write your video source, shouldn't this work ?10:02
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos10:02
*** pat_o_ has quit IRC10:02
SaberAltriaSK_work I am sorry that I don't understand " write your video source" mean10:03
dr_gogeta86SK_work, imagine steam on jolla tablet10:03
SK_workdr_gogeta86: ?10:03
SK_workSaberAltria: let me check10:03
dr_gogeta86is x86 and will be wayland support in the future10:03
SaberAltriaThz :D10:03
SK_workwhat are you planning to use from multimediawidgets to perform streaming ?10:03
SaberAltriajust to show the video10:04
* artemma was doing a small Qt-based iOS prototype on his dayjob lately. Can run on Android. I was thinking of making a Sailfish build too, but it's way tpp painful to make completely different project for Jolla. Such a pity there is no centralized care for making a template/process for apps to work both on Jolla and something else. In a cross-platform way, you know10:04
SaberAltriaI follow the example in Qt Docs10:04
*** gexc has quit IRC10:04
*** gexc has joined #sailfishos10:04
SK_workSaberAltria: which example ?10:05
SaberAltriaI give you the link in a while10:06
SK_workartemma: I thought about wrapping Silica inside qtquickcontrols10:06
SK_workSaberAltria: can you resend ?10:06
AcceSK_work: didn't someone already start doing it?10:06
SaberAltriathe first box10:07
SaberAltriaHere's an example of using QVideoWidget: >>>> is the part I read10:07
artemmaSK_work: IMHO the biggest problem with cross platform also-Sailfish apps is not controls, but stupid requirements for plugin naming (and a bit - reequirements for binary naming). At the moment you are simply unable to build for Sailfish if you use QML plugins and cannot access their source code10:08
artemmaa bit of a problem unless all your plugins are open source and even then you need to maintain10:09
SK_workartemma: can't you static link the plugins ?10:09
artemmafunny thing is that these requirements actually check the wrong thing: they check your source code VS what happens at runtime10:09
artemmayou can easily make your code conform to checks and by mistake still load plugins from jolla10:10
artemma's main locations10:10
artemmain case of not allowed nemo plugins10:10
artemmaSK_work: I don't think static linking can help. Plugins got to have a name: QML has to load them via harbour.yourapp.whatever so you must change the registration file at least. Many plugins additionally have asserts inside verifying the calling path10:11
artemmanemo plugins for example have a lot of it :)10:11
SK_workSaberAltria: ever tried to use QML ?10:12
SK_workI think (but not sure) that buffering means that there are frame being buffered10:12
SK_worknot full video10:12
*** grzywacz has joined #sailfishos10:13
SaberAltriaI am not sure because I am using streaming video to test. I can never know the duration of a streaming video. Indeed the duration property in Qml is 0. But I tried to do some observation, I found that only the bufferProgress === 1, then the video started to play. I think this is quite annoying...10:15
SK_workSaberAltria: I wonder what's this bufferProgress10:16
SK_workbuffer is usually some frames10:17
SaberAltriaYup, I have more to explain10:17
SK_workanyway ...10:17
SK_workI do'nt know how to do this easily10:17
SK_workbut you might need to manage frames yourself10:17
SK_workor video buffering10:17
SaberAltriaYup, one key point is that, my streaming video is not really a "video". It is a playlist, the format is .m3u810:17
*** gexc has quit IRC10:17
AcceSaberAltria: here:
Acceit works without loading the whole video10:18
Acceit just loads the buffer full and then playback can happen10:18
SaberAltriaThz! I gonna take a look10:18
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos10:18
Accejust install it and see how it works when you see some youtube vid10:18
*** pat_o has quit IRC10:18
SK_workSaberAltria: and ?10:19
SaberAltriathe .m3u8 consists of 8 clips of video10:19
SaberAltriaOnce it started to do buffer and loading, it did all 8 clips and then started to play10:20
SaberAltriabut not one by one10:20
SaberAltriaIn short, I hope the player and do buffer and playing at the same time, that is "simultaneous", but not linear10:21
SK_workSaberAltria: parse the m3u810:23
SK_workextract the vidfeo sources10:23
SK_workand play them independently10:24
SaberAltriaYes I tried this algorithm10:25
*** alexxy has quit IRC10:25
*** alexxy has joined #sailfishos10:26
SaberAltriabut it is worser, it looks nice that the video clips are short, can be quickly buffered, but the player still have to buffer one then play one. In the short buffer period, the video will be hidden, it makes the video always twinkling...10:27
SaberAltriafor example, play 2 second, then buffer 1 second, play 0.5 second, stopped and then buffer 0.5 second..............10:28
Accewhy does it not happen with youtube?10:29
Accesounds more like a connection problem10:29
Acceor maybe you need to make the buffer bigger somehow?10:30
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos10:31
SaberAltriaMaybe I post the link here10:32
*** pat_o_ has quit IRC10:32
SK_workSaberAltria: haha10:34
SK_workwhat you need is to spawn several MediaPlayer10:34
SK_workuse them to buffer each clip10:34
SK_workand then swap media player on the video source10:35
*** h0wser has quit IRC10:35
*** pat_o has quit IRC10:38
SaberAltriaI shared same view...10:38
SaberAltriaI tried this method too ...10:38
*** gexc-phone has joined #sailfishos10:38
SaberAltriaI used 2 Video {  } When Video A is playing, Video B is buffering. When Video A is Ended, Video B can play instantly without any buffering10:39
SaberAltriabut the switching between them also make some inconsistency10:41
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos10:43
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos10:44
*** Venemo has joined #sailfishos10:46
*** ottulonen has joined #sailfishos10:47
*** pat_o has quit IRC10:48
*** igordcard has joined #sailfishos10:48
*** h0wser has joined #sailfishos10:49
*** ottulo_ has quit IRC10:50
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos10:51
SK_workSaberAltria: inconsistency ?10:53
SK_workwhat are you trying to achieve actually ?10:53
SaberAltriaSK_work, I know my real real problem is10:53
SaberAltriathe qml video player doesn't support .m3u8 streaming !!!10:54
SK_workit do10:54
SK_workbut what are you trying to achieve10:54
SK_workthis m3u8 thing, is a playlist10:54
SK_workso if you are doing a video player10:54
SaberAltriaIn ubuntu, I just double clicked the .m3u8, it will continue to play for many hours10:55
*** ottulonen has quit IRC10:55
SK_workSaberAltria: well, what's the player ? :)10:55
SK_workvlc ?10:55
SK_workthat handles this well etc.10:55
SK_work^don't expect a framework to give the same quality compared to a sw10:55
SaberAltriabut for qml video and c++ mediaplayer ( I just tried), it will stop handled when the first playlist is played. That means it wouldn't update the "list"10:55
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC10:56
SaberAltriathe default one video player in ubuntu 14.10, just called Video...10:56
Accejust a note, you should use VideoOutput in combination with MediaPlayer, Video component is convenience object which combines the two10:57
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos10:57
SaberAltriathe playlist (.m3u8) keeps on updating, but qml doesn't update it. I use ( loops: true ) to make it reload the playlist, but it is different10:57
SaberAltriaAcce, Yes I tried MediaPlayer and VideoOutput in qml too10:58
SaberAltriait works, but between old playlist and updated playlist for streaming, it needs some times to "reload"10:59
SaberAltriabut in the ubuntu video player, I can tell the difference is that, it is not a kind of "reload" but continue loading11:00
SaberAltriamaybe I call it "append the updated playlist to old playlist"11:00
SaberAltriaThere must be some difference between their handling methods11:01
*** pat_o_ has quit IRC11:02
SaberAltriaAlso, for qml MediaPlayer, if I set the "loops" to "0", it only plays a short part of the video, but not streaming I think...11:03
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos11:04
*** h0wser has quit IRC11:04
*** spacefrogg has quit IRC11:04
SaberAltriaOne possible solution I can think of is using some html5 web-based player in Webview, but it is not quite native...11:05
*** pat_o has quit IRC11:06
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos11:06
*** pat_o_ has quit IRC11:09
*** spacefrogg has joined #sailfishos11:11
*** Venemo has quit IRC11:16
SaberAltriaHa Ha11:18
SaberAltriaThere is a bug reports for similar issue11:19
*** Sailor11736_ has quit IRC11:19
*** ajalkane has quit IRC11:26
sandsmarkqtmultimedia is unfortunately not really up to par, and pretty much unmaintained...11:28
giucamit's not unmaintained11:34
giucamlacking resources, for sure11:34
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos11:35
*** hamphiterus has quit IRC11:35
*** nodevel has joined #sailfishos11:38
*** Venemo has joined #sailfishos11:39
SaberAltriaI suffered the same problem, for the streaming, only the initial playlist contents and won't fetch more segments11:40
*** ajalkane has joined #sailfishos11:44
*** pavi has joined #sailfishos11:44
paviGuys where do I find documentation for creating a new package for Jolla ?11:45
paviEspecially a package which has nothing to do with the UI but do some console operations requiring root11:45
SK_workpavi: what kind of packages ?11:45
paviSK_work, font ?11:45
SK_workpavi: package it as a standard RPM11:45
SK_workread fedora spec files11:46
SK_workfor example11:46
SK_workrun it in mer obs11:46
SK_workor using the SDK virtualbox11:46
SK_workyou can ssh into it and run rpmbuild11:46
paviSK_work, ahh ok its that simple11:46
SK_workpavi: SailfishOS is a Linux distro so ...11:46
paviSK_work, ofcourse its linux , got my jolla phone yesterday , I installed some fonts using scp , I was asked by some people to make a package11:48
paviso I am starting with it , hope I dont ask too many dumb questions11:48
*** Sailor11736_ has joined #sailfishos11:49
stephgwell pavi you're in the right place for help :)11:49
pavistephg, thanks.11:50
paviSK_work, What changes need to be added specifically for sailfish to a fedora package ?11:50
*** spiiroin has quit IRC11:51
stephgpavi: depends on the package, at the very very least you'll be altering the spec file11:52
SaberAltria@pavi, you will make font manager for Jolla, right?11:52
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos11:52
paviSaberAltria, no I dont have that high goals , I just wanna add some fonts11:53
*** fracting has quit IRC11:54
SaberAltriapavi, I have question about the fonts system in Jolla. In deed, I tried to change font, now I am using the "Segoe UI" font by Microsoft11:54
SaberAltriaBut before that, I have to delete all Jolla default font to make it activated. Do you have new method?11:55
paviSaberAltria, I am not sure if changing font system is possible. I guess its all hardcoded into the UI.11:55
paviAnd if you delete them there is a chance that your system becomes unusable ?11:56
paviI am not sure, its left to the experts11:56
SaberAltriaUnstable? Mmmm... I think it is stable but some text is not shown correctly11:57
sandsmarkI think you might be able to change the fontconfig to "redirect" the fonts11:57
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC11:57
SaberAltria@sandsmark, one more question about the font format Jolla used11:58
paviSaberAltria, try with the same font family and check . I guess you could always revert back11:58
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos11:58
SaberAltriathe emoji problem, indeed, I downloaded many emoji fonts, like iOS emoji fonts in some forum11:59
SaberAltriabut it doesn't work in Jolla, but android is no problem11:59
sandsmarkqt doesn't support colored emoji11:59
*** fracting1 has joined #sailfishos11:59
sandsmarkthere is a patch for it, though11:59
sandsmarkI think this also adds support for it:
sandsmarkbut idunno12:01
sandsmarknot a high priority for me personally, at least, I think emojis are silly12:01
*** fracting has quit IRC12:03
*** h0wser has joined #sailfishos12:07
*** Okeanos has joined #sailfishos12:08
*** nodevel has quit IRC12:08
*** martyone has quit IRC12:09
*** gexc-phone has quit IRC12:11
*** Sailor11736_ has quit IRC12:14
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos12:15
*** pat_o has quit IRC12:21
*** hge has quit IRC12:23
*** meetingcpp has joined #sailfishos12:23
*** jhakala1 has left #sailfishos12:25
*** vakkov has quit IRC12:27
*** ulvus has joined #sailfishos12:28
*** spiiroin has joined #sailfishos12:29
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos12:31
*** filippz has quit IRC12:31
*** niktrix_ has quit IRC12:35
ulvusHello sandsmark12:36
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos12:45
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos12:47
*** flash1 has quit IRC12:47
*** hge has joined #sailfishos12:48
*** niktrix_ has joined #sailfishos12:50
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos12:52
*** pat_o has quit IRC12:56
*** filippz has joined #sailfishos12:56
*** whidden has joined #sailfishos13:02
*** ionstorm has joined #sailfishos13:14
*** DuckZ has joined #sailfishos13:19
*** DuckZ has left #sailfishos13:20
*** h0wser has quit IRC13:25
*** Finlod has joined #sailfishos13:27
*** grzywacz has quit IRC13:28
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos13:36
*** pat_o_ has quit IRC13:39
*** IgorSK has joined #sailfishos13:39
*** misprint has quit IRC13:40
*** roboro has quit IRC13:40
*** roboro has joined #sailfishos13:41
*** max87 has joined #sailfishos13:42
*** pat_o has quit IRC13:42
*** max87 has quit IRC13:43
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos13:43
*** max87 has joined #sailfishos13:43
*** max87 has joined #sailfishos13:44
*** Lipevakala has joined #sailfishos13:44
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos13:44
*** roboro has quit IRC13:45
*** tanuk has left #sailfishos13:45
*** roboro has joined #sailfishos13:45
*** pat_o has quit IRC13:47
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos13:48
*** xerpi has joined #sailfishos13:48
*** pat_o_ has quit IRC13:48
*** grzywacz has joined #sailfishos13:49
*** Sequenced has quit IRC13:49
Hartzihmm warehouse lost all the repos suddently. It can't find the self update channel repo anymore. How to fix that?13:52
*** ionstorm has quit IRC14:04
*** zhxt has joined #sailfishos14:05
*** meetingcpp has quit IRC14:08
*** xkr47 has joined #sailfishos14:08
*** vakkov has joined #sailfishos14:13
*** jjanvier_ has joined #sailfishos14:13
*** filippz has quit IRC14:14
ryukafalzHartzi: Try SSHing into the device and run "ssu lr" - that will show all enabled and disabled repos14:15
*** zalan_ has quit IRC14:16
*** jjanvier has quit IRC14:16
*** ionstorm has joined #sailfishos14:16
*** TMavica has joined #sailfishos14:20
*** sec has joined #sailfishos14:23
*** Okeanos has quit IRC14:32
*** flywheel_ has joined #sailfishos14:32
*** zhxt has quit IRC14:36
*** zhxt_ has joined #sailfishos14:36
*** BearT has quit IRC14:40
*** zalan has joined #sailfishos14:41
*** f3an0r has quit IRC14:44
*** jjanvier_ has quit IRC14:46
*** jjanvier_ has joined #sailfishos14:46
*** meetingcpp has joined #sailfishos14:46
*** Sailor11736_ has joined #sailfishos14:46
*** Jef91 has quit IRC14:47
*** BearT has joined #sailfishos14:48
*** marxistvegan has joined #sailfishos14:49
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC14:52
*** Venemo_j has joined #sailfishos14:54
*** Venemo_j has quit IRC14:54
*** Venemo_j has joined #sailfishos14:54
*** whidden has quit IRC14:57
*** Venemo has quit IRC15:01
*** ottulo has joined #sailfishos15:04
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos15:06
*** qqK has joined #sailfishos15:08
*** Sailor11736_ has quit IRC15:13
TemeVI'm getting "//usr/include/mlite5/mnotification.h:25:27: fatal error: mremoteaction.h: No such file or directory" Which package I'm missing from the SDK?15:13
*** Nightmare__ has joined #sailfishos15:13
TemeVIs there some nice documentation somewhere for stuff like this?15:14
Accemaybe zypper wp mnotification.h ?15:15
Accehmm nope15:16
TemeVyeah, I can't find anything related to this with zypper se or zypper wp15:18
Accemaybe mlite-qt5-devel, if you don't have it installed15:19
Acceand do you have it included from your .pro?15:21
*** flash1 has quit IRC15:22
TemeVi think I should have that15:22
Acceand on another note, do you know someplace with any docs or tutorials about mlite5 :)15:22
TemeVI'm just using google and reading other peoples source codes15:22
*** ottulonen has joined #sailfishos15:23
Accehmm mlite source seems quite nicely commented15:24
*** zhxt_ has quit IRC15:24
*** zhxt__ has joined #sailfishos15:24
Accedo you have in your .spec: BuildRequires: pkgconfig(mlite5)15:26
*** fracting has quit IRC15:26
*** fracting1 has quit IRC15:26
*** ottulo_ has joined #sailfishos15:26
Acceor well, I'm just looking it up from mitakuuluu2 source files15:26
TemeVyes, I think I have all relevant stuff from mitakuuluu2 .spec file :)15:26
Accesince it works, I guess looking there and comparing to yours might work15:26
*** SailKenn has joined #sailfishos15:26
Acceoh, ok :)15:26
*** ottulo has quit IRC15:28
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos15:28
TemeVwell, I could just try to add the non-relevant stuff also15:28
*** ottulo has joined #sailfishos15:29
TemeVI'm doing instant messenger after all, so I might need them in the future anyway15:29
*** ottulonen has quit IRC15:29
*** flash1 has quit IRC15:30
Accemhmm.. if you're just trying to use notifications, org.nemomobile.notifications might be enough15:30
*** SailKenn has quit IRC15:31
TemeVisn't that only usable from qml?15:32
*** ottulo_ has quit IRC15:32
Acceoh ok, I didn't understand you need them from c++15:33
*** filippz has joined #sailfishos15:33
AcceI wish I could be sure if the guys at Jolla will go for mlite5 or the other nemomobile stuff15:33
Acceor if they would say something else about their API than "It's Qt and Nemo stuff" :)15:34
TemeVI'm trying to do as much as possible with c++ :)15:35
*** zhxt__ has quit IRC15:35
Nicd-to be honest, the Sailfish API documentation for app devs is among the most terrible I've ever seen... P15:35
TemeVAnd I'd also like to use notifications from background daemon, so I guess qml is not that practical there15:35
SK_workNicd-: it is just enough15:36
SK_workif you comes from Harmattan it is quite ok15:36
Nicd-the way you do stuff is by asking around in mailing lists and IRC channels15:36
SK_workand you might need to read source code at some point15:36
Nicd-then you hope you get an approved or good method to do it as an answer15:36
TemeVOr someone is awake when you're having problems15:36
*** fracting1 has joined #sailfishos15:37
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos15:38
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos15:38
*** SailKenn has joined #sailfishos15:41
SK_workor whenever coderus is here or not :P15:42
*** N-Mi_ has quit IRC15:42
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos15:43
Armadillo16:35:44ยป <Nicd-> to be honest, the Sailfish API documentation for app devs is among the most terrible I've ever seen... P <-- which documentation? :)15:43
Nicd-well, we have documentation for the QML widgets15:44
Nicd-so we can create UIs without any functionality15:44
SK_workNicd-: you have Qt doc for this15:45
Nicd-except for stuff like GPS (until 5.2) and notifications which should've been there from the start15:46
*** flash1 has quit IRC15:46
TemeVNicd-: do you use notifications in weecrapp?15:47
Nicd-haven't gotten to that yet15:47
TemeVso you don't know how to use them from c++?15:48
TemeVdamn, have to wait until coderus appears online, I guess :)15:48
Nicd-seen some mitakuuluu code for it but haven't gone through it15:48
SK_workTemeV: what I do is that I (static) link with nemo qml notifications15:48
Nicd-this is one thing that just absolutely should be there15:48
Nicd-in some documentation15:49
TemeVSK_work: ok, have to check that out15:49
SK_workTemeV: I use some QML submodules for this15:49
SK_workNicd-: I'm trying to write a custom compatibility layer that pulls all kind of submodules15:50
SK_workcompile them15:50
SK_workand you can link with these libs15:50
TemeVok. Well, I have to go now. SK_work I'll maybe ask you some details later :)15:50
SK_workso that sailfish devs will have nice features quite easily15:50
Nicd-anyway, I should get a new laptop before I can use any 5.2 stuff in my apps :/15:53
*** h0wser has joined #sailfishos15:54
*** Sail0r has quit IRC15:54
*** nimmersatt has joined #sailfishos15:58
*** zGrr has quit IRC15:58
*** N-Mi_ has joined #sailfishos15:59
*** N-Mi_ has joined #sailfishos15:59
*** amccarthy has quit IRC16:00
*** michiell has quit IRC16:00
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos16:00
*** roboro has quit IRC16:01
*** roboro has joined #sailfishos16:01
*** sigfpe has joined #sailfishos16:02
*** kunev has quit IRC16:03
*** michiell has quit IRC16:06
*** pp_ has quit IRC16:06
*** dhbiker has joined #sailfishos16:06
*** Behold has joined #sailfishos16:09
ulvusHi sailfish ppl16:12
SK_workhi ulvus16:14
*** VDVsx has quit IRC16:15
ulvusWhats up, nice to hear about launch of tablet and OS 2.016:16
*** SL89 has joined #sailfishos16:16
*** gabriel9 has quit IRC16:19
*** h0wser has left #sailfishos16:20
*** fracting1 has quit IRC16:21
*** fracting has quit IRC16:22
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos16:26
ryukafalzTablet's gonna be awesome :)16:26
*** VDVsx has joined #sailfishos16:27
*** arturo182 has joined #sailfishos16:27
*** michiell has quit IRC16:30
*** tat has quit IRC16:30
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos16:32
ulvus252 % funding look good16:32
*** fracting has joined #sailfishos16:33
*** fracting1 has joined #sailfishos16:34
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC16:37
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos16:39
*** fracting1 has quit IRC16:46
*** niktrix_ has quit IRC16:47
*** michiell has quit IRC16:47
*** sysdef has joined #sailfishos16:47
*** Venemo_j has quit IRC16:50
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos16:53
*** sec has quit IRC16:56
*** tat has joined #sailfishos16:56
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos16:57
*** pat_o has quit IRC16:59
*** pat_o has joined #sailfishos17:00
*** michiell has quit IRC17:00
*** SailKenn has quit IRC17:01
*** pat_o_ has quit IRC17:02
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos17:02
*** tat has quit IRC17:03
*** Venemo_j has joined #sailfishos17:05
*** Sail0r has joined #sailfishos17:05
*** louisdk has joined #sailfishos17:05
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC17:09
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos17:10
*** michiell has quit IRC17:12
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos17:13
*** Kabouik has quit IRC17:15
*** pat_o_ has quit IRC17:15
*** pat_o has quit IRC17:15
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos17:15
*** daitheflu has quit IRC17:21
*** pat_o_ has quit IRC17:21
*** fracting has quit IRC17:22
*** artemma has quit IRC17:23
*** jua_ has joined #sailfishos17:24
*** sec has joined #sailfishos17:30
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos17:31
*** SaberAltria has quit IRC17:34
*** michiell has quit IRC17:35
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos17:35
*** IgorSK has quit IRC17:35
*** marxistvegan has quit IRC17:36
*** marxistvegan has joined #sailfishos17:36
*** Nokius has joined #sailfishos17:47
*** R-Z has joined #sailfishos17:48
*** Lipevakala_ has joined #sailfishos17:48
*** max87 has quit IRC17:49
*** Nokius1 has quit IRC17:49
*** Lipevakala has quit IRC17:51
*** filippz has quit IRC17:52
*** michiell has quit IRC17:52
*** melonipoika has quit IRC17:54
*** Shinryuu has joined #sailfishos17:56
*** ulvus has quit IRC17:57
*** Guhl has joined #sailfishos17:57
*** Sailor-2gether has joined #sailfishos18:00
*** Sail0r has quit IRC18:01
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC18:01
*** ulvus has joined #sailfishos18:02
*** twixx has quit IRC18:03
*** Blizzz has quit IRC18:03
*** SL89 has quit IRC18:04
*** tat has joined #sailfishos18:05
SK_workhi ulvus18:06
*** Sailor11736_ has joined #sailfishos18:06
*** jjanvier_ has quit IRC18:07
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos18:07
*** jua_ has quit IRC18:10
ulvusSK_work:  are they date of 24 november correct for release of sailfish OS 2 ore are it just rumours18:10
*** N-Mi_ has quit IRC18:10
*** melonipoika has joined #sailfishos18:10
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos18:11
SK_work100% rumors18:11
SK_work1.1.X is not fully out yet18:11
SK_workso how come they can make 2.0 in 4 days ?18:11
locusflots of coffee?18:11
*** IgorSK has joined #sailfishos18:12
Aardulvus: don't get that hooked on a software version. we're continuing updating as before. the more exciting bit is the hardware part18:12
SK_worklocusf: no, only having more Stskeeps could make this achievable18:12
SK_workAard: ha ?18:12
SK_workIMO SW part (multiwindow ? new swipe animation ? new ambience lockscreen menu etc.) is much more exciting18:13
locusfSK_work: heheh :)18:13
SK_workas it can also benefit from Jolla phone18:13
AardSK_work: meaning, "don't expect a bing bang where everything suddenly shows up"18:13
SK_workbenefit to jolla phone18:13
SK_workAard: I'm waiting for them then :)18:13
*** IgorSK has quit IRC18:16
*** michiell has quit IRC18:16
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos18:16
ulvusStskeeps do a good work, but he can and will not tell me about jolla and  sailfish launc, before its going public. He under firm and private  practice of discretion18:18
*** michiell has quit IRC18:21
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos18:22
*** pp_ has joined #sailfishos18:25
ulvusOk, jolla hope to have tablet on sale may 201518:29
ulvusIts a date found crowdfunding18:29
*** melonipoika has quit IRC18:30
*** grzywacz has quit IRC18:31
*** radekp_ has quit IRC18:33
*** gabriel9 has joined #sailfishos18:33
*** Morpog_PC has joined #sailfishos18:39
*** michiell has quit IRC18:40
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos18:40
*** Shinryuu has quit IRC18:42
*** lainwir3d has quit IRC18:47
*** mkollaro has joined #sailfishos18:53
*** michiell has quit IRC18:56
mkollaroCould somebody please help me out with Silica+signals? I'm trying to create a simple app that would just print the result of a C++ function in a QML rectangle. I found this: , but I'm not sure how to rewrite the normal main() using SailfishApp::main with the one in the examples18:58
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos18:58
*** tat has quit IRC18:58
*** furikku has quit IRC19:01
*** igordcard has quit IRC19:04
*** michiell has quit IRC19:06
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos19:06
*** Shinryuu has joined #sailfishos19:09
*** sardini has joined #sailfishos19:10
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC19:13
*** FlashAsp_ has joined #sailfishos19:13
*** michiell has quit IRC19:15
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos19:16
Accemkollaro: simple example of working main:
mkollaroAcce: I thought you need to register a new qml type only when you are creating your own visual thingy?19:19
Accemkollaro: it doesn't have to be a visual thing19:20
Acceof course, you may register just something if you don't need a whole new type19:20
*** Sailor-2gether has quit IRC19:20
mkollaroAcce: then in which cases are you supposed to register a new type and when should you use signals&slots?19:20
*** Sail0r has joined #sailfishos19:21
Accewell, a type forms a sensible object, which may have properties, signals and slots (equal to functions on qml side)19:21
*** tat has joined #sailfishos19:22
Acceit's like a class, which you then instantiate in the qml19:22
Accepossibly dynamically19:22
*** michiell has quit IRC19:22
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos19:22
*** SL89 has joined #sailfishos19:23
Accein case you have something you want to relay from c++, and you don't really need to set any properties or such for the backend, just registering the needed function makes sense imo19:23
mkollaroso, in which case would you just use signals, without registering a type?19:25
*** dhbiker has quit IRC19:25
Accehumm.. it depends a lot on the case19:26
AcceI don't know what would be a good rule fitting all cases19:27
Acceso, maybe a case where you have 3rd party library and cannot make it a qml type in a sensible way19:29
Accejust register the functions to be usable from qml then19:29
Accewell it's maybe little bit wrong to say "register functions"19:31
Accein most cases I would just create a type I guess..19:33
*** nomeata has joined #sailfishos19:36
mkollaroAcce: thanks, that makes it a bit less confusing :)19:36
*** msava has quit IRC19:36
Accemkollaro: np, just keep going on it and it starts to make more and more sense :)19:37
*** rashm2k has joined #sailfishos19:39
*** msava has joined #sailfishos19:43
*** flywheel_ has quit IRC19:47
*** sec__ has joined #sailfishos19:48
*** flash1 has joined #sailfishos19:48
*** sec__ has quit IRC19:48
*** sec has quit IRC19:49
*** Jef91 has joined #sailfishos19:49
*** Jef91 has joined #sailfishos19:49
*** flash1 has quit IRC19:50
*** michiell has quit IRC19:55
*** sec has joined #sailfishos19:55
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos19:55
*** michiell has quit IRC20:00
*** M4rtinK has joined #sailfishos20:01
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos20:02
*** rashm2k has quit IRC20:05
*** artemma has joined #sailfishos20:05
*** salamisami has joined #sailfishos20:12
salamisamiHow's the Sailfish work on N920:12
*** grzywacz has joined #sailfishos20:12
salamisamiApart from the missing features like GPS and Camera20:12
salamisamiHow snappy is the UI or does it feel slow like Meego on N900?20:13
*** flywheel has joined #sailfishos20:17
*** ottulonen has joined #sailfishos20:23
*** nimmersatt has quit IRC20:24
coderussalamisami: worst experience ever :)20:25
coderusjust for sailfish fans20:25
*** Zotan has joined #sailfishos20:26
*** michiell has quit IRC20:26
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos20:26
salamisamiOh, ok20:26
*** sec has quit IRC20:26
salamisamiIt looked ok on youtube20:26
*** ottulo has quit IRC20:27
*** FlashAsp_ has quit IRC20:29
*** lainwir3d has joined #sailfishos20:32
*** rashm2k has joined #sailfishos20:33
*** Finlod has quit IRC20:38
*** rashm2k has quit IRC20:40
*** rashm2k1 has joined #sailfishos20:40
*** pat_o_ has joined #sailfishos20:42
*** michiell has quit IRC20:42
*** pat_o_ is now known as pat_o20:42
*** michiell has joined #sailfishos20:42
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos20:42
*** spider-mario has joined #sailfishos20:43
*** MoritzJT has joined #sailfishos20:44
*** vakkov has quit IRC20:46
*** vakkov has joined #sailfishos20:48
*** Nc_ has quit IRC20:52
*** ln- has quit IRC20:55
*** vakkov has quit IRC20:55
*** ln- has joined #sailfishos20:56
*** smokex has quit IRC20:59
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #sailfishos21:00
*** Nc_ has joined #sailfishos21:00
*** smokex has joined #sailfishos21:06
*** smokex has joined #sailfishos21:06
*** smokex has quit IRC21:06
*** smokex has joined #sailfishos21:06
*** nonennoe has joined #sailfishos21:07
*** nonennoe has left #sailfishos21:08
*** Nc_ has quit IRC21:08
*** Sailor11736 has joined #sailfishos21:08
*** rashm2k1 has quit IRC21:09
*** karos has joined #sailfishos21:09
*** Sailor11736_ has quit IRC21:11
*** jua_ has joined #sailfishos21:12
*** FlashAsparagus has quit IRC21:13
*** mkollaro has quit IRC21:24
*** karos has left #sailfishos21:25
*** salamisami has quit IRC21:25
*** Sail0r has quit IRC21:25
*** beidl_ has joined #sailfishos21:26
*** beidl has quit IRC21:28
*** spider-mario has quit IRC21:29
*** FlashAsparagus has joined #sailfishos21:32
*** gogeta has joined #sailfishos21:35
*** Shinryuu has quit IRC21:36
*** igordcard has joined #sailfishos21:38
*** Okeanos has joined #sailfishos21:43
*** Blizzz has joined #sailfishos21:51
*** gogeta has quit IRC21:51
*** R-Z has quit IRC21:54
*** gogeta has joined #sailfishos21:56
*** cxl000 has quit IRC21:56
*** gabriel9 has quit IRC22:06
*** gabriel9 has joined #sailfishos22:07
*** Sequenced has joined #sailfishos22:07
*** Mikkosssss_ has joined #sailfishos22:11
*** tat has quit IRC22:17
*** SL89 has quit IRC22:17
*** tat has joined #sailfishos22:19
*** tat has quit IRC22:19
*** Venemo_j has quit IRC22:23
*** nomeata has quit IRC22:27
*** Nightmare__ has quit IRC22:27
*** vakkov has joined #sailfishos22:29
*** gogeta has quit IRC22:30
*** badidea has joined #sailfishos22:32
*** xerpi has quit IRC22:36
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC22:40
*** TMavica has quit IRC22:42
*** lainwir3d has quit IRC22:42
*** LiXJed1 is now known as LiXJed22:42
keithzg"It looked ok on youtube": famous last words ;)22:49
keithzgI will say that SailfishOS on the Nexus 4 is nearly flawless, so if you have one of those around it's *definitely* worth it IMHO.22:49
keithzgsalamisami ^^22:50
*** jua_ has quit IRC22:53
*** Guhl has quit IRC22:55
*** tat has joined #sailfishos22:56
*** M4rtinK has joined #sailfishos22:58
*** Guhl has joined #sailfishos23:02
*** igordcard has quit IRC23:02
*** Morpog_PC has quit IRC23:03
*** Sequenced has quit IRC23:08
*** Guhl has quit IRC23:08
*** Sequenced has joined #sailfishos23:08
*** Kabouik has joined #sailfishos23:10
*** sardini has quit IRC23:13
*** sandy_locke has joined #sailfishos23:13
*** marxistvegan has quit IRC23:17
*** Jonni has quit IRC23:18
*** Jonni has joined #sailfishos23:18
*** badidea has quit IRC23:22
*** Kabouik has quit IRC23:24
*** mkollaro has joined #sailfishos23:26
*** grzywacz has quit IRC23:29
*** Zotan has quit IRC23:39
*** SaberAltria has joined #sailfishos23:39
*** jean-michel has joined #sailfishos23:41
jean-michelhello everybody23:41
*** jean-michel has quit IRC23:42
*** Blizzz has quit IRC23:44
*** meetingcpp has quit IRC23:46
*** igordcard has joined #sailfishos23:48

Generated by 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!