| M4rtinK | try to ping lbt | 00:00 |
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| M4rtinK | he is the overall Mer infra guy :) | 00:00 |
| sandsmark | ah | 00:00 |
| M4rtinK | but most probably already asleep today :) | 00:00 |
| phaeron | https://git.merproject.org is the new thing :) | 00:00 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, IIRC they moved to gitlab or something | 00:01 |
| sandsmark | yeah, found it | 00:01 |
| M4rtinK | a while ago | 00:01 |
| sandsmark | thanks, phaeron :-) | 00:01 |
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| lbt | yep .. gerrit is dead \o/ | 00:03 |
| lbt | gitweb should work but is lower prio | 00:04 |
| sandsmark | seems down from here at least, but gitlab works | 00:04 |
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| tortoisedoc | wow | 05:35 |
| tortoisedoc | mer LDAP | 05:35 |
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| tortoisedoc | wow | 05:38 |
| tortoisedoc | qtfeedback allowed in harbow! | 05:38 |
| tortoisedoc | harbor | 05:39 |
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| kimmoli | tortoisedoc: no | 05:44 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator/commit/ee707490de369043b2402815b94ad327a3a02401 | 05:45 |
| tortoisedoc | no? | 05:45 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator/pull/47 | 05:45 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 05:45 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : do your laundry man :P | 05:45 |
| tortoisedoc | crap | 05:46 |
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| kimmoli | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFloZbT99oE followed by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H22t-tiWiLw | 05:52 |
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| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : naming in the file's names or in classes etc? | 06:44 |
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| kimmoli | check other commits, did see Qt0Feedback somewhere.. dunno | 06:48 |
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| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : yeah i noticed too | 07:20 |
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| Nokius | kimmoli: Sorry that I miss to respond yesterday after the meeting. No problem that you can't make it to the event. Is there a possibility that you can lend same community made TOH to show them the crowed. If I get a response from the FOSDEM committee and its okay for you may we can talk more about the details. Hope to receive the answer soon from the committee. | 08:50 |
| kimmoli | Nokius: yes, i should have toholed, letoh and tohiri. Maybe tohkbd2 even, but that has to be confirmed by dirkvl | 08:51 |
| lainwir3d | hi | 08:51 |
| Nokius | kimmoli: sure do this :) mist | 08:52 |
| Nokius | mist hit to early enter | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCLGrdfCMAAPvgG.jpg - typical fosdem stand, btw.. | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | .. that's even iekku sitting in the background | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | one table | 08:55 |
| kimmoli | have to make some freestuff | 08:55 |
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| tbr | Jolla could sponsor some nemo and mer stickers :> | 08:56 |
| Nicd- | I want a new tampere dev event so I can get more jolla swag! ;) | 08:57 |
| tbr | we could start by having a combined pikkujoulu | 08:57 |
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| Nicd- | probably won't get much coding done at a pikkujoulu... | 08:57 |
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| * iekku is way easy to spot :D | 08:59 | |
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| kimmoli | oo pikkujoulu | 09:10 |
| cos- | when? | 09:10 |
| Nokius | btw. if some one is interested to share with me a two bedroom apartment in Brussels during FOSDEM (30.Jan-01-Feb.) ping me [looks to me the cheaper way to stay there] | 09:16 |
| tbr | cos-: mhh, I had a prelim date from NF, let me check | 09:19 |
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| tbr | damn, don't see it in my calendar, but I think it was the 13th | 09:19 |
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| tbr | how does that sound to people? | 09:20 |
| cos- | no go, there's petrifest movie festival that day | 09:21 |
| cos- | 12.12 would be free | 09:21 |
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| lukedirtwalker | is there anywhere a statement about Sailfish.* qml imports? | 10:00 |
| lukedirtwalker | regarding harbour intake? | 10:02 |
| Armadillo | there were new allowed imports mentioned in the meeting yesterday, but I haven#t seen any new qml imports | 10:03 |
| lukedirtwalker | I saw it but not Sailfish ones | 10:04 |
| coderus | lukedirtwalker: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq#QML_API | 10:06 |
| coderus | Armadillo: this imports allowed for u10, not current ones, isn't it? | 10:06 |
| Armadillo | I think he's taking about new ones ;) | 10:06 |
| Armadillo | those on the faq are the current ones | 10:07 |
| lukedirtwalker | coderus: Armadillo: I mean like Sailfish.Pickers Sailfish.Media | 10:07 |
| Armadillo | as there's also qt5.2 missing currently | 10:07 |
| coderus | lukedirtwalker: ok, nothing of it is allowed and wont be afaik. | 10:08 |
| coderus | lukedirtwalker: only Sailfish.Silica is allowed | 10:08 |
| lukedirtwalker | coderus: yes but I want to know if there are plans for the future, should we make a TJC entry to vote for this | 10:09 |
| lukedirtwalker | I think those 2 are really cool | 10:09 |
| Armadillo | next meeting will be on december 16 ;) | 10:09 |
| coderus | lukedirtwalker: none of it was discussed | 10:10 |
| lukedirtwalker | Armadillo: would you volunteer to bring this up? I always teach Tuesdays at 15.00 | 10:11 |
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| lukedirtwalker | coderus: thanks for info | 10:11 |
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| Armadillo | as I don't know anything about those components, I think I'm not the right man for this ;) | 10:11 |
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| lukedirtwalker | Armadillo: hm okay | 10:14 |
| Armadillo | you could add it to the planning and mention that you won't be available and you're searching for someone who can present your topic | 10:15 |
| cos- | what's this thing with facebook requiring re-login every now & then? | 10:16 |
| cos- | can't the phone just save my u & p and use them? | 10:16 |
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| Juuba | cos-: FB is ok for me, Google loses login every now and then for me. | 10:41 |
| Juuba | or at least did twice in 4 days... when I open Settings - Accounts, google says "Log in" | 10:42 |
| cos- | that sucks anyway.. why it won't respect "Remember login" | 10:42 |
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| lukedirtwalker | nazanin: ping, have you tested butaca? | 11:50 |
| nazanin | lukedirtwalker: it's been tested but not by me, how come? :) | 11:50 |
| lukedirtwalker | question about the problems raised | 11:51 |
| nazanin | lukedirtwalker: go ahead :) | 11:52 |
| lukedirtwalker | it says option for adult content didn't work in u8 how does that show? | 11:52 |
| lukedirtwalker | I don't think I use any u9 specifics | 11:53 |
| nazanin | lukedirtwalker: what the message says is that disabling the 'show adult content' did not really filtered out the adult content on a device having update 8 | 11:56 |
| nazanin | lukedirtwalker: is it possible to fix it so that disabling this option can actually filter out the adult content? | 11:56 |
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| lukedirtwalker | nazanin: I will look into it I still have u8 in emulator | 11:57 |
| nazanin | lukedirtwalker: great :) | 11:57 |
| lukedirtwalker | thanks for clarification | 11:57 |
| nazanin | lukedirtwalker: no problem, let me know if anything else comes up :) | 11:58 |
| suy | Is there some way to detect on .pro files when one is compiling for SailfishOS? mkspec? I was using packagesExist(sailfishapp), but is unsuported in Creator. | 11:59 |
| lukedirtwalker | exists("/usr/include/sailfishapp/sailfishapp.h"): { | 11:59 |
| lukedirtwalker | message("Sailfish build") | 11:59 |
| lukedirtwalker | suy: ^ | 11:59 |
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| lukedirtwalker | suy: also check the pro file of fahrplan to support nearly all qt platforms: https://github.com/smurfy/fahrplan/ | 12:00 |
| suy | lukedirtwalker: nice hack :-P Thank you, I'll check now. That's a nice idea | 12:01 |
| lukedirtwalker | nazanin: haha I actually never looked into adult content :D | 12:02 |
| nazanin | lukedirtwalker: well we need to test apps in all ways possible :D | 12:02 |
| lukedirtwalker | nazanin: yes good catch | 12:03 |
| nazanin | lukedirtwalker: our test engineer Nrsisti caught it ;) | 12:03 |
| Nrsisti | ;) | 12:03 |
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| lukedirtwalker | hm is QtQuick.LocalStorage 2.0 not working in u8? | 12:09 |
| lukedirtwalker | nevermind ^ | 12:11 |
| lukedirtwalker | nazanin: can I now resubmit with just a new release or do I need to make a new version? | 12:11 |
| nazanin | lukedirtwalker: as the app is rejected, a new release number would suffice :) | 12:12 |
| lukedirtwalker | okay | 12:12 |
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| King_DuckZ | lol did you see the new papocchio app on the store? | 12:27 |
| King_DuckZ | funny name, it's italian | 12:27 |
| King_DuckZ | you can also tell the dude is italian by his "do mistakes" in the app description :D | 12:27 |
| * Armadillo restarts the store | 12:27 | |
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| King_DuckZ | hm I can't find papocchio on wordreference, but that's a word you use for children when they mess up, like when they learn to write, make mistakes, scribble over them, another mistake, scribble over the correction and it all becomes messy | 12:30 |
| King_DuckZ | then you say mamma mia, you made a papocchio! XD | 12:30 |
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| giucam | uhm.. i don't know where ilpianista is from, but that's pastrocchio for me | 12:31 |
| giucam | or pastròcio | 12:32 |
| King_DuckZ | uhm no checking right now, it's papocchio github.com/ilpianista/Papocchio | 12:32 |
| giucam | yes, i was questioning the meaning of the word :) | 12:33 |
| King_DuckZ | ah :) pastrocchio's got a similar meaning I think, but it's harder for children to say | 12:33 |
| giucam | yeah, i guess it changes based on the zone | 12:33 |
| King_DuckZ | yeah, that as well | 12:34 |
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| ilpianista | giucam I'm from Lecce, but "Papocchio" is used in Potenza | 12:40 |
| ilpianista | King_DuckZ please tell me where I'm wrong :-P | 12:41 |
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| giucam | ilpianista: i guess 'make mistakes' would be better ;) | 12:42 |
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| * ilpianista takes note | 12:43 | |
| kimmoli | ilpianista: nice to see some "competition" for Paint :) | 12:43 |
| King_DuckZ | ilpianista: oh lol hi | 12:43 |
| King_DuckZ | ilpianista: it's also used in rome | 12:43 |
| ilpianista | kimmoli you know what...I never installed Paint because it looks complicated from the screenshots | 12:43 |
| kimmoli | uh | 12:44 |
| King_DuckZ | ilpianista: btw yeah, it's "make a mistake" - my trick to remember that is that they rhyme o.O | 12:44 |
| ilpianista | kimmoli now I did, and one thing I don't like it the transparent background | 12:44 |
| kimmoli | you can change that | 12:44 |
| ilpianista | kimmoli: ouch | 12:44 |
| ilpianista | :-P | 12:44 |
| kimmoli | you can use your own photo too | 12:44 |
| ilpianista | however I will not introduce all those stuff...a papocchio is just a "draft" | 12:45 |
| ilpianista | kimmoli: yep, saw that feature. nice, you implemented a "save" feature too? | 12:45 |
| kimmoli | yes it saves | 12:45 |
| leinir | i'm sure Krita Mini will happen at some point for phone sized devices :) | 12:45 |
| King_DuckZ | I didn't try either of those, but maybe you can "beat" the other paint tool by adding a zooming feature, so that you can draw in different areas of a larger sheet? ie: take notes, omg no more space! zoom out, scribble an arrow, zoom in at the arrow's tip, take notes again, drag back etc etc | 12:47 |
| ilpianista | King_DuckZ: you got my idea! | 12:47 |
| King_DuckZ | :D | 12:47 |
| ilpianista | really, that's the "final plan" | 12:48 |
| King_DuckZ | it's going to be especially cool on the new tablet I think | 12:48 |
| ilpianista | looking at the Canvas spec you can change the canvas size, but I fear this will reset the whole canvas. So, I'll play a bit and see what comes from that | 12:48 |
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| coderus | lukedirtwalker: https://github.com/smurfy/fahrplan/blob/master/fahrplan2.pro#L53 seems to be invalid for sailfishos | 13:15 |
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| M4rtinK | It would be good for drawing apps if the tablet gets a wacom/active pen support: https://together.jolla.com/question/63876/request-jolla-tablet-wacom-digitizer-active-pen-support/ | 13:29 |
| M4rtinK | so vote for the question if you think it is a good idea and needs more attention :) | 13:30 |
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| Nokius1 | What is jolla-hacks for a package? | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | hacks | 14:18 |
| Armadillo | :D | 14:19 |
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| Nokius1 | so a official one was in the first moment like this °_° | 14:19 |
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| Nokius1 | okay see description: Hacks for jolla demo | 14:20 |
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| RavenholmDX | SK_work, hey | 14:25 |
| RavenholmDX | SK_work, just doesn't seem to be getting called | 14:26 |
| Armadillo | it's only called once | 14:26 |
| RavenholmDX | yes | 14:26 |
| RavenholmDX | on creation of the component, correct? | 14:26 |
| Armadillo | yes | 14:26 |
| RavenholmDX | well it doesn't seem to be called, even once :P | 14:27 |
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| RavenholmDX | don't have the code on hand | 14:27 |
| Armadillo | Oo | 14:27 |
| Armadillo | did you try to place a simple console.log inside to double check? | 14:28 |
| RavenholmDX | that's what I'm doing | 14:28 |
| RavenholmDX | no output in the console | 14:28 |
| SK_work | RavenholmDX: show me some code | 14:28 |
| RavenholmDX | basically I want to populate the list view dynamically at startup | 14:28 |
| SK_work | RavenholmDX: how do you populate the view ? | 14:28 |
| Armadillo | should be no problem, works quite well for me in many use cases | 14:28 |
| SK_work | show me code ! :) | 14:29 |
| Armadillo | 15:27:28» <RavenholmDX> don't have the code on hand | 14:29 |
| Armadillo | ;) | 14:29 |
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| RavenholmDX | SK_work, I'm home now | 19:13 |
| RavenholmDX | here's the code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9254229/ | 19:15 |
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| railroadmaster | Hello! | 19:16 |
| railroadmaster | Is this the Sailfish Os IRC? | 19:17 |
| RavenholmDX | Yep! | 19:17 |
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| railroadmaster | in my view the UI of sailfish os could use some improvement, the general color and tones are too two dimensional and bland. Sailfish also lacks widgets, a basic feature. In my view widgets could be incorporated by having multitasking be a separate home screen, you have home screen for running apps and other home screens for widgets. | 19:26 |
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| RavenholmDX | as a long time android user, I never bothered with widgets | 19:31 |
| RavenholmDX | never really saw the point | 19:31 |
| RavenholmDX | notifications notified me of anything worthwhile | 19:31 |
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| RavenholmDX | and if I'm engaged enough with my phone as I would need to be to check widgets, it's not much more of a chore to quickly pop open the app | 19:32 |
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| MartiMasaKoegx_ | Likewise, as long-term Maemo-user I also don't miss Widgets very much! | 19:33 |
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| railroadmaster | I use widgets all the time. | 19:36 |
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| leszek | widgets are the work from hell. Eating battery and cpu like there is no more | 19:37 |
| railroadmaster | give users the choice, those who want widgets should be able to use them those that don't can choose not to have them. | 19:37 |
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| leszek | railroadmaster: no one stops you from writing your own "lipstick" homescreen | 19:38 |
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| leszek | I don't think this is something that needs to be adding to it currently. I think the memory leaks like the clipboard issue in lipstick are things that need focussing | 19:39 |
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| King_DuckZ | wth are widgets? as a long term symbian user I never heard of them | 19:41 |
| King_DuckZ | you mean like command buttons, combo boxes, lists...? | 19:41 |
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| King_DuckZ | and don't forget voice chat over xmpp U_U | 19:42 |
| King_DuckZ | or even better, tox integration | 19:43 |
| King_DuckZ | tox is making xmpp look like obsolete dinosaur crap :p | 19:43 |
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| King_DuckZ | I used to love it until 2 weeks ago, and now listen to me | 19:43 |
| railroadmaster | https://www.kde.org/workspaces/screenshots/widgets.png here are examples of widgets. | 19:46 |
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| King_DuckZ | railroadmaster: aren't they called plasmoids? | 19:52 |
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| salyavin | Voice over xmpp would be great. Might have to look at tox. Jolla seems week with voip. | 20:08 |
| salyavin | Native VOIP, hate to depend on android compat. | 20:09 |
| tbr | salyavin: in theory the XMPP layer in sailfishos supports voice and video, it's not hooked up properly though | 20:15 |
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| salyavin | King_DuckZ I see we have https://together.jolla.com/question/5766/feature-request-xmpp-audiovideo-call/ and https://together.jolla.com/question/42578/tox-client-for-sailfishos/ let's vote. | 20:20 |
| coderus | RavenholmDX: you need to create your listViewComponent first :D | 20:22 |
| coderus | in your code you have an empty Page with ListView component (not object) | 20:23 |
| King_DuckZ | I had a look at the sdk and tried to compile toxcore, but I have other projects to bring on, so I'm afraid I have to pass... but I can upvote the feature requests :) | 20:36 |
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| ryukafalz | it's been a while since I've looked at tox, it seems to have come pretty far | 20:46 |
| ryukafalz | still no offline messaging/multi-device support though | 20:46 |
| ryukafalz | (which admittedly are rather hard problems in a P2P network) | 20:46 |
| King_DuckZ | I tried it last weekend for the first time, I had never heard of it | 20:47 |
| King_DuckZ | but offline messages did work for me | 20:47 |
| King_DuckZ | I couldn't send any from uTox tbh, but my gf could leave me one from qTox | 20:47 |
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| ryukafalz | well, by offline messages I mean also delivery when the sender has gone offline | 20:48 |
| King_DuckZ | and I saw in the output log in the console "message received while offline", so it's not like qTox faked it and just waited for me to appear | 20:48 |
| King_DuckZ | what do you mean? | 20:49 |
| King_DuckZ | ah yeah, that's what I'm saying | 20:49 |
| ryukafalz | I feel like that probably is still what happened though? | 20:50 |
| ryukafalz | unless you took the sending machine offline after sending the message... | 20:50 |
| King_DuckZ | no I didn't try that | 20:50 |
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| ryukafalz | the way retroshare does it is by forwarding the encrypted message to mutual friends | 20:51 |
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| swift110-phone | Hello all | 20:54 |
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| salyavin | Looks like nieldk did some work on tox King_DuckZ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1449097#post1449097 | 23:45 |
| salyavin | cli | 23:45 |
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