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artemma | ping Stskeeps | 00:12 |
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* artemma started Textual (IRC client for mac) first time after Yosemite upgrade. What the ugly unreadable fonts in the user list. Oh well, maybe time to upgrade it as well | 00:13 | |
artemma | !time in finland | 00:14 |
qtassistant | artemma: Error: 'finland' is not a valid floating point number. | 00:14 |
Merbot | artemma: Error: "time" is not a valid command. | 00:14 |
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artemma | okay :) | 00:14 |
artemma | !g time in finland | 00:14 |
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artemma | ah, it worked! :) | 00:14 |
artemma | okay, stskeeps must be sleeping then | 00:14 |
raa700 | once | 00:14 |
artemma | thanks | 00:14 |
raa700 | i should be sleeping to | 00:15 |
raa700 | o | 00:15 |
* artemma will use email | 00:15 | |
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userf20 | Could someone make a case to me, why should I jump on this bandwagon instead of another open sdk such as FirefoxOS. I do not care about android compatibility and FirefoxOS can target more OS's with a easier learning curve. | 04:57 |
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TemeV | userf20: what I hear from FirefoxOS, it has really poor performance, which is understandable since it's all html5 | 06:36 |
TemeV | And for the others, there is no products yet, Sailfish is the only one that is actually shipped with a phone you can buy | 06:37 |
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TemeV | and developing with Qt and c++ is just fun :) | 06:41 |
tiwake | donno about C++, but C is rather fun | 06:45 |
tiwake | and Objective-C is fun too | 06:45 |
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m4g0g | hello | 07:06 |
m4g0g | I have question about qml. What is the better way: use QObject classes with qmlRegisterType or use signal-slot connection between qml main instance and c++ manager class? | 07:07 |
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suy | m4g0g: neither is "better". Different techniques for maybe different things. Having a class registered in QML is the preferred way, but sometimes is impossible, or harder, so you attach specific instances instead. | 07:26 |
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nadley | hi all | 08:12 |
Stskeeps | hello hello | 08:13 |
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zGrr | moin :) | 09:23 |
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sandsmark | moinmoin :D | 09:35 |
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zGrr | :) | 09:37 |
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m4g0g | guys, how to have only one attached page in pageStask and it should be last? | 11:28 |
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coderus | explain | 11:29 |
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m4g0g | like in friends but I can't understant how it was done. I have feed page and attached menu page. If I open new one it should be open after feed and before menu. New one - before menu.... | 11:31 |
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coderus | not using friend | 11:32 |
coderus | mainPage . attachedPage | 11:33 |
m4g0g | And one more: If I write in main.qml something like this: SomePage {id: page} - it will be use system resources or it will be use them only after pageStack.push (page)? | 11:33 |
coderus | if you open new page from mainPage: | 11:33 |
coderus | mainPage => newPage (no attached page) | 11:33 |
coderus | if you pop: | 11:34 |
coderus | mainPage . attachedPage (mainPage active) | 11:34 |
m4g0g | but I want to have menuPage always attached as last page in stack | 11:35 |
coderus | m4g0g: if you declare page it will be created when creating parent page and will be active until parent destroyed, before push and after pop | 11:35 |
coderus | m4g0g: you should attach menuPage to each page | 11:35 |
m4g0g | yes | 11:35 |
coderus | it's not working in the way you looking for | 11:35 |
m4g0g | but when I have feedPage + menuPage and open new page from feedPage I get feedPage + emptyPage + newPage + attachedPage | 11:36 |
coderus | in each page you want to have menuPage as attached page you should call pushAttached | 11:36 |
m4g0g | yes | 11:36 |
coderus | what is emptyPage? | 11:36 |
m4g0g | empty page/. Without anything | 11:37 |
m4g0g | becase menu page now attached to newPage | 11:37 |
coderus | you doing something wrong | 11:37 |
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coderus | use pushAttached(Qt.resolvedUrl("MenuPage.qml")), do not use pushAttached(menuPage) | 11:38 |
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m4g0g | hm | 11:38 |
m4g0g | It should help? | 11:38 |
coderus | you need to attach new object, not the same every time | 11:38 |
King_DuckZ | hello, yesterday I asked if there's a predefined preprocessor symbol I can test against in c++ to detect I'm building for sailfish, and the answer was no, so my question today is: how can I detect sailfish from cmake? | 11:38 |
m4g0g | ok. I am trying | 11:38 |
Ape3000 | Is there a way to add a message to the lock screen? I'd like to show my email in case my phone gets lost | 11:38 |
coderus | Ape3000: lipstick )homescreen) qml files are under /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 | 11:39 |
coderus | Ape3000: feel free to hack it | 11:39 |
Ape3000 | Thanks | 11:39 |
TemeV | Ape3000: put it as a text to ambiance image :D | 11:42 |
King_DuckZ | does it have an /etc/os-release at least? | 11:43 |
locusf | hmm thats actually a better idea than hacking non-free content | 11:43 |
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King_DuckZ | nobody? how do you detect it's sailfish in your code? | 11:45 |
locusf | King_DuckZ: I tried to look at my jolla but ssh fails | 11:47 |
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coderus | King_DuckZ: we're developing apps for sailfish | 11:47 |
Ape3000 | coderus, TemeV: That was suprisingly painless. Thanks again. I love this phone (and QML in general). So easy to hack. | 11:47 |
coderus | King_DuckZ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9539682 | 11:47 |
locusf | King_DuckZ: if there is /etc/sailfish-release then its sailfish | 11:47 |
TemeV | King_DuckZ: yes, there seems to be os-release | 11:48 |
locusf | and sure, os-release works too | 11:48 |
King_DuckZ | coderus: you mean single platform? btw thanks, I guss either that (cmake has some sort of "if file exists" iirc) or os-release will help me detecting the platform | 11:48 |
coderus | King_DuckZ: single platform, yes | 11:50 |
King_DuckZ | I don't have a dev-mode jolla atm, so thanks for trying for me | 11:50 |
coderus | King_DuckZ: but this file is on device | 11:51 |
coderus | not in sdk | 11:51 |
coderus | King_DuckZ: you compiling it on device itself? | 11:51 |
coderus | as far i understand you need to know what platform you compiling, not running? | 11:52 |
meklu | /etc/os-release is part of systemd | 11:52 |
meklu | so I'd assume it's got it | 11:52 |
King_DuckZ | I'm not at home, so no sdk either :/ | 11:52 |
coderus | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9539706 | 11:52 |
coderus | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9539707 | 11:53 |
King_DuckZ | I was hoping somebody would rather tell me "nah you can just do #ifdef SOMETHING" tbh... I could've checked os-release by myself at some point | 11:53 |
locusf | hmm the sdk doesn't have /etc/sailfish-release of course | 11:54 |
meklu | you could use autohell ;) | 11:54 |
King_DuckZ | T_T | 11:54 |
meklu | and try to link against sailfishapplication or something | 11:54 |
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suy | King_DuckZ: see the mailing list, were I raised the problem. There is no fully reliable way, but best way (in qmake for example) would be packagesExist(sailfishapp). With other buildsystems, try with whatever invokes pkg-config. | 12:24 |
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nadley | hi guys :D | 12:32 |
nadley | is there a good example somewhere of an application to learn ? | 12:33 |
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King_DuckZ | suy: I'm planning to check if cmake is setting CMAKE_SYSTEM to anything meaningful | 12:41 |
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King_DuckZ | actually could somebody with an sdk at hand try it please? just get into an empty dir, create a text file called CMakeLists.txt and add this line to it -> message(FATAL_ERROR "${CMAKE_SYSTEM}") | 12:44 |
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King_DuckZ | then in the same directory just running cmake . should return an error like CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:1 (message): Linux-2.6.32-504.el6.x86_64 | 12:45 |
King_DuckZ | in that case el6 stands for enterprise linux 6 I think, so it's sort of helpful | 12:46 |
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suy | that seems the uname, so very little useful | 12:47 |
King_DuckZ | I get Linux-3.0.35-16-ARCH on arch... seems useful to me | 12:48 |
King_DuckZ | cmake has support for regex so you can match for paterns | 12:49 |
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suy | Which is terribly brittle, don't do that. If you want to know if you are building for sailfish, do as I suggested: detect via pkg-config if libsailfishapp is available. Or, given that packages are build through a specific RPM, pass a parameter when rpmbuild is called. | 12:51 |
suy | You can't rely on the version to detect the specific of the OS. Those change easily. | 12:51 |
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Stskeeps | moo achipa | 12:51 |
achipa | moo stskeeps! | 12:52 |
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King_DuckZ | that adds a dependency to pkg-config tho... I also have to consider the case where there is no such command | 12:54 |
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coderus | nadley: what example? | 13:14 |
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coderus | SK_work: done patches: MazeLock for U9 (digits), Exrta emergency numbers, Launcher Grid Advanced, Folder Icons for U9 :) | 13:25 |
SK_work | coderus: you are amazing bro | 13:25 |
SK_work | what's launchergrid advanced and extra emergency numbers ? | 13:25 |
coderus | launchergrid advanced watching dconf keys for rows count and first row visible status. you can change rows on the fly | 13:27 |
coderus | extra emergency numbers watching dconf key for array of extra numbers available to call from emergency mode when phone is locked | 13:27 |
coderus | for example in russia we have 0x0, 00x (1-rescue, 2-ambulance, 3-police, 4-gas service) | 13:29 |
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SK_work | coderus: haha, nice | 13:38 |
SK_work | coderus: so, N9 | 13:38 |
SK_work | for emergency, it is N9 like ? | 13:39 |
SK_work | you hit 112, it displays emergency ? | 13:39 |
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coderus | SK_work: lock device with code and click emergency button | 13:58 |
coderus | thats it | 13:58 |
coderus | it's already here :D | 13:58 |
coderus | patch just added some more numbers to emergency list | 13:58 |
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coderus | if you try to dial some number gui will say "you can only dial emergency numbers" | 13:59 |
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SK_work | coderus: ah ? | 14:09 |
SK_work | ok | 14:09 |
SK_work | :) | 14:09 |
coderus | :) | 14:13 |
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King_DuckZ | this should take care of things, in case anybody is interested http://pastebin.com/azd30vAf | 14:28 |
King_DuckZ | the whole thing should be enclosed into an if is linux, and instead of exiting with an error you can like add_definitions(-D__SAILFISH__) | 14:29 |
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King_DuckZ | the suggested way to test if it's linux iirc is: if (CMAKE_SYSTEM_NAME STREQUAL "Linux") | 14:32 |
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stephg_j | hi is thr meeting in 25 minutes? | 14:35 |
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coderus | who is ready to test following patches on u9 before i releasing them? | 15:06 |
coderus | 1. MazeLock for Devicelock | 15:06 |
coderus | 2. LauncherGrid Advanced | 15:06 |
coderus | 3. Extra emergency numbers list | 15:07 |
coderus | 4. FolderIcons remastered for u9 | 15:07 |
coderus | requires patchmanager | 15:07 |
coderus | 1. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/u9patches/sailfishos-mazelock-patch-0.0.1-1.noarch.rpm | 15:09 |
coderus | 2. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/u9patches/sailfishos-launchergrid-advanced-patch-0.0.1-1.noarch.rpm | 15:09 |
coderus | 3. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/u9patches/sailfishos-extra-emergency-patch-0.0.1-1.noarch.rpm | 15:09 |
coderus | 4. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/u9patches/sailfishos-folder-icons-patch-0.0.1-1.noarch.rpm | 15:10 |
SK_work | coderus: you have sources ? | 15:10 |
SK_work | could you show me the folder icon ? | 15:10 |
SK_work | and other stuff ? | 15:10 |
coderus | SK_work: uploading | 15:10 |
SK_work | don't know if I can merge them | 15:10 |
coderus | wait :) | 15:10 |
SK_work | thanks :) | 15:10 |
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coderus | SK_work: https://github.com/CODeRUS/sailfishos-folder-icons-patch/blob/u9/patch/unified_diff.patch | 15:12 |
SK_work | coderus: thanks | 15:13 |
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coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/sailfishos-mazelock-patch | 15:15 |
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coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/sailfishos-launchergrid-advanced-patch | 15:17 |
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coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/sailfishos-extra-emergency-patch | 15:19 |
coderus | done :) | 15:19 |
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SK_work | starring them | 15:22 |
SK_work | will check | 15:22 |
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coderus | for maze lock: long press enabling digits keypad if you have troubles entering your previous code. | 15:27 |
coderus | ah, and i need to release captcha-confirmation-devicelock patch separately | 15:28 |
coderus | it now integrated into mazelock | 15:28 |
coderus | each 3rd wrong code attempt it asking to enter 31795 before entering code again :) | 15:28 |
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nadley | coderus: sorry for the delay but I'm looking for an example app or source code of an existing one which is a good one, to learn more about best practice on apps developpement on sailfish | 15:31 |
coderus | nadley: first check examples folder in SDK | 15:32 |
coderus | componentgallery have most of cases using silica | 15:32 |
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nadley | coderus: ok thanks | 15:43 |
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micha_ | hi | 15:49 |
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SK_work | stephg: so, what did you managed to extract ? | 15:59 |
stephg | hang on, mouth/fingers full of calamari | 16:00 |
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stephg | SK_work: right, sorry, ok so endpoints for the github stuff are straightforward to query, and that's maybe 1/4 or 1/3 of the sources, all under github.com/nemomobile and github.com/nemomobile-packages | 16:06 |
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stephg | you know about the former but I wasn't sure about the latter | 16:06 |
stephg | the gitlab on git.merproject.org was slightly more problematic as searching wasn't straight forward | 16:07 |
stephg | buuuut | 16:07 |
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stephg | if you query this with your access token: https://git.merproject.org/api/v3/groups/28 | 16:08 |
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stephg | you end up with json for everything | 16:09 |
stephg | sec I'll upload somewhere but you'll want a json prettifier | 16:09 |
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SK_work | stephg: thanks | 16:15 |
stephg | https://paste.kde.org/pjiyxwthc | 16:15 |
stephg | anyway with that and a bit of jq and grep you can then clone everything | 16:16 |
stephg | and with that you then have the spec files | 16:16 |
stephg | from which you can then generate everything you like | 16:16 |
ulvus | Hi | 16:16 |
stephg | so the question is, what's useful after that. mapping real packages on-device to that doesn't necessarily strike me as useful | 16:16 |
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stephg | SK_work: e.g. that json run through this: gives you everything to clone: | 16:18 |
stephg | cat mer-core.list | jq '.[]' | grep 'http_url_to_repo' | awk ' {print $2}' | sed -e 's/"//g' | sed -e 's/,//g' | 16:18 |
stephg | (my jq/json sucks, yours will be far better) | 16:18 |
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stephg | anyway I cloned the lot (qt doesn't work over https, it's too big) and then was messing with rpmspec running from find but that wasn't working as I wanted | 16:22 |
stephg | and now it's not in my history | 16:22 |
stephg | but from there it depends what people want | 16:22 |
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SK_work | stephg: I would like to have the content of *.spec from each repo | 16:24 |
SK_work | do you think that this can be done ? | 16:24 |
SK_work | spec mapped to each repo | 16:24 |
stephg | yes absolutely | 16:25 |
stephg | I was just looking for a clean way to do it in one line | 16:25 |
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stephg | I mean I can give you that as a tarball right now if you want | 16:26 |
stephg | (and you're happy for it to be from last week) | 16:26 |
SK_work | stephg: can you give me a tarball of each spec inside a folder that is named the same pas the repo | 16:27 |
SK_work | (that can be found in json ?) | 16:27 |
stephg | yep | 16:27 |
SK_work | hum | 16:27 |
stephg | so how I have them at the moment | 16:27 |
SK_work | ok | 16:27 |
SK_work | send it to me then | 16:27 |
stephg | is projname/repo | 16:28 |
SK_work | I don't have rpm executable but can parse spec | 16:28 |
SK_work | stephg: good | 16:28 |
stephg | e.g. mer-core/e2fsprogs | 16:28 |
stephg | or nemomobile/libcommhistory | 16:28 |
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stephg | the spec files move around btw, most are in $group/$repo/rpm but some are not | 16:29 |
stephg | anyway let me generate that for you | 16:29 |
stephg | give me a couple of minutes: need beer, toilet ;) | 16:29 |
SK_work | :) | 16:30 |
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stephg | generating now (unless my file command is broke) | 16:38 |
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ulvus | SK_work: have you talked about linux, making you own distro or linux machine? | 16:41 |
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urjaman | bt1, what means screen blank and 3 green blinks of led --> home screen? | 16:44 |
SK_work | urjaman: not really | 16:44 |
SK_work | urjaman: means homescreen crashed | 16:44 |
urjaman | ok random, did cut url with fingerterm and the 1st time it did that... | 16:45 |
urjaman | (well a fork, thumbterm) | 16:46 |
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urjaman | ulvus: ^^ i think tha(1st)t was for you | 16:48 |
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urjaman | _*that 1st... | 16:48 |
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ulvus | Ok. Thx | 16:48 |
stephg | SK_work: right done, where shall I put it? does the sfos wiki support attachments? | 16:49 |
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SK_work | stephg: send it to me by mail | 16:51 |
SK_work | at some point we should be able to have one script to do everything | 16:51 |
stephg | kk | 16:51 |
stephg | yeah | 16:51 |
SK_work | know my mail ? you can read any git commit log :) | 16:52 |
stephg | that's why I asked in #mer-meeting (where you should go now) as tbr had mentioned something (like a wiki-to-gitlab gateway) that could do it | 16:52 |
SK_work | stephg: not sure about a wiki to gitlab gateway | 16:53 |
SK_work | some manual scripts should be enough imo | 16:53 |
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stephg | SK_work: tarball on its way to you, complete with complete-ish instructions | 17:14 |
stephg | please share with folks if it's useful | 17:15 |
jcbjoe__ | best os i been on .. i'm getting a jolla / sailfish phone first of the month :D | 17:24 |
jcbjoe__ | beatufil phone | 17:24 |
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qt_junkie | :) | 17:28 |
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Armadillo | jcbjoe__ congratulations ;) | 17:29 |
jcbjoe__ | Armadillo: well i'm running it on a nexus 4 right now and i can't stop using it meaning the next phone will be a jolla phone | 17:31 |
jcbjoe__ | thanks | 17:31 |
jcbjoe__ | i'm sold :D | 17:31 |
Armadillo | :D | 17:31 |
jcbjoe__ | thank god for ebay | 17:32 |
coderus | SK_work: news? | 17:39 |
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ulvus | Hi sailfisher | 18:02 |
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SK_work | coderus: still at work. Party tonight so no news soon :( | 18:31 |
coderus | ;D | 18:32 |
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coderus | what command to force devicelock phone? | 18:43 |
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coderus | Need testers for new patches for #SailfishOS (MazeLock included!) using Uitukka: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1452382#post1452382 | 18:52 |
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nadley | coderus: should I do something special on my jolla phone to connect QtCreator to it ? looks like it needs ssh access | 18:59 |
nadley | my mistake dev mode need to be enable | 19:00 |
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coderus | nadley: devmode and enable ssh and set some password manually :) | 19:01 |
nadley | hum weird I got a conection refused... | 19:02 |
coderus | nadley: you need to reconnect cable now and choose developer mode :) | 19:07 |
coderus | for old windows you need to install rndis driver | 19:07 |
coderus | for linkus you need to create new dhcp connection for usbX interface | 19:07 |
TemeV | I think sshd doesn't start when enabling it from settings | 19:07 |
TemeV | at least it didn't use to do that | 19:08 |
coderus | hm, right, probably you need a reboot :) | 19:08 |
nadley | ok I tried the reboot | 19:08 |
nadley | then if nothing is ok I'll fallback to the cable :D | 19:09 |
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TemeV | and you enabled remote connection? | 19:09 |
nadley | TemeV: of course | 19:09 |
TemeV | just checking :) | 19:09 |
nadley | an setup a password | 19:09 |
nadley | trying to connect from QtCreator and then from my terminal directly | 19:10 |
nadley | after reboot ssh is ok | 19:12 |
nadley | Should I deploy by copying binaries or creating rpm for test purpose ? | 19:15 |
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TemeV | Deploy as RPM seems to be most reliable for me | 19:16 |
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nadley | TemeV: so the first option as there is also an option to deploy by building an rpm | 19:17 |
TemeV | if you choose "Building an RPM" it doesn't really deploy, just creates the rpm | 19:17 |
nadley | ok | 19:17 |
TemeV | yes, the first one | 19:17 |
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nadley | ok deploying works so let's start building something | 19:19 |
tbr | stephg: um, right now I don't remember mentioning such a thing. try poking me tomorrow. | 19:19 |
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stephg | no worries or rush tbr, you were the one suggesting it :) | 20:43 |
stephg | eep baby scare, Mrs Steph in overnight hospital, bbl :( | 20:44 |
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M4rtinK | let's make QtQuick Controls available on Sailfish OS: https://together.jolla.com/question/71520/request-qtquick-controls/ :) | 22:18 |
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coderus | MazeLock patch available on openrepos now: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-mazelock | 22:42 |
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Hartzi | nice | 22:48 |
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stephg | back | 22:49 |
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