Tuesday, 2014-12-16

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artemmaping Stskeeps00:12
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* artemma started Textual (IRC client for mac) first time after Yosemite upgrade. What the ugly unreadable fonts in the user list. Oh well, maybe time to upgrade it as well00:13
artemma!time in finland00:14
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artemmaokay :)00:14
artemma!g time in finland00:14
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artemmaah, it worked! :)00:14
artemmaokay, stskeeps must be sleeping then00:14
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raa700i should be sleeping to00:15
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* artemma will use email00:15
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userf20Could someone make a case to me, why should I jump on this bandwagon instead of another open sdk such as FirefoxOS. I do not care about android compatibility and FirefoxOS can target more OS's with a easier learning curve.04:57
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TemeVuserf20: what I hear from FirefoxOS, it has really poor performance, which is understandable since it's all html506:36
TemeVAnd for the others, there is no products yet, Sailfish is the only one that is actually shipped with a phone you can buy06:37
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TemeVand developing with Qt and c++ is just fun :)06:41
tiwakedonno about C++, but C is rather fun06:45
tiwakeand Objective-C is fun too06:45
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m4g0ghello07:06
m4g0gI have question about qml. What is the better way: use QObject classes with qmlRegisterType or use signal-slot connection between qml main instance and c++ manager class?07:07
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suym4g0g: neither is "better". Different techniques for maybe different things. Having a class registered in QML is the preferred way, but sometimes is impossible, or harder, so you attach specific instances instead.07:26
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nadleyhi all08:12
Stskeepshello hello08:13
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zGrrmoin :)09:23
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sandsmarkmoinmoin :D09:35
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zGrr:)09:37
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m4g0gguys, how to have only one attached page in pageStask and it should be last?11:28
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coderusexplain11:29
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m4g0glike in friends but I can't understant how it was done. I have feed page and attached menu page. If I open new one it should be open after feed and before menu. New one - before menu....11:31
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coderusnot using friend11:32
coderusmainPage . attachedPage11:33
m4g0gAnd one more: If I write in main.qml something like this: SomePage {id: page} - it will be use system resources or it will be use them only after pageStack.push (page)?11:33
coderusif you open new page from mainPage:11:33
coderusmainPage => newPage (no attached page)11:33
coderusif you pop:11:34
coderusmainPage . attachedPage (mainPage active)11:34
m4g0gbut I want to have menuPage always attached as last page in stack11:35
coderusm4g0g: if you declare page it will be created when creating parent page and will be active until parent destroyed, before push and after pop11:35
coderusm4g0g: you should attach menuPage to each page11:35
m4g0gyes11:35
coderusit's not working in the way you looking for11:35
m4g0gbut when I have feedPage + menuPage and open new page from feedPage I get feedPage + emptyPage + newPage + attachedPage11:36
coderusin each page you want to have menuPage as attached page you should call pushAttached11:36
m4g0gyes11:36
coderuswhat is emptyPage?11:36
m4g0gempty page/. Without anything11:37
m4g0gbecase menu page now attached to newPage11:37
coderusyou doing something wrong11:37
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coderususe pushAttached(Qt.resolvedUrl("MenuPage.qml")), do not use pushAttached(menuPage)11:38
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m4g0ghm11:38
m4g0gIt should help?11:38
coderusyou need to attach new object, not the same every time11:38
King_DuckZhello, yesterday I asked if there's a predefined preprocessor symbol I can test against in c++ to detect I'm building for sailfish, and the answer was no, so my question today is: how can I detect sailfish from cmake?11:38
m4g0gok. I am trying11:38
Ape3000Is there a way to add a message to the lock screen? I'd like to show my email in case my phone gets lost11:38
coderusApe3000: lipstick )homescreen) qml files are under /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt511:39
coderusApe3000: feel free to hack it11:39
Ape3000Thanks11:39
TemeVApe3000: put it as a text to ambiance image :D11:42
King_DuckZdoes it have an /etc/os-release at least?11:43
locusfhmm thats actually a better idea than hacking non-free content11:43
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King_DuckZnobody? how do you detect it's sailfish in your code?11:45
locusfKing_DuckZ: I tried to look at my jolla but ssh fails11:47
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coderusKing_DuckZ: we're developing apps for sailfish11:47
Ape3000coderus, TemeV: That was suprisingly painless. Thanks again. I love this phone (and QML in general). So easy to hack.11:47
coderusKing_DuckZ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/953968211:47
locusfKing_DuckZ: if there is /etc/sailfish-release then its sailfish11:47
TemeVKing_DuckZ: yes, there seems to be os-release11:48
locusfand sure, os-release works too11:48
King_DuckZcoderus: you mean single platform? btw thanks, I guss either that (cmake has some sort of "if file exists" iirc) or os-release will help me detecting the platform11:48
coderusKing_DuckZ: single platform, yes11:50
King_DuckZI don't have a dev-mode jolla atm, so thanks for trying for me11:50
coderusKing_DuckZ: but this file is on device11:51
coderusnot in sdk11:51
coderusKing_DuckZ: you compiling it on device itself?11:51
coderusas far i understand you need to know what platform you compiling, not running?11:52
meklu/etc/os-release is part of systemd11:52
mekluso I'd assume it's got it11:52
King_DuckZI'm not at home, so no sdk either :/11:52
coderushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/953970611:52
coderushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/953970711:53
King_DuckZI was hoping somebody would rather tell me "nah you can just do #ifdef SOMETHING" tbh... I could've checked os-release by myself at some point11:53
locusfhmm the sdk doesn't have /etc/sailfish-release of course11:54
mekluyou could use autohell ;)11:54
King_DuckZT_T11:54
mekluand try to link against sailfishapplication or something11:54
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suyKing_DuckZ: see the mailing list, were I raised the problem. There is no fully reliable way, but best way (in qmake for example) would be packagesExist(sailfishapp). With other buildsystems, try with whatever invokes pkg-config.12:24
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nadleyhi guys :D12:32
nadleyis there a good example somewhere of an application to learn ?12:33
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King_DuckZsuy: I'm planning to check if cmake is setting CMAKE_SYSTEM to anything meaningful12:41
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King_DuckZactually could somebody with an sdk at hand try it please? just get into an empty dir, create a text file called CMakeLists.txt and add this line to it ->    message(FATAL_ERROR "${CMAKE_SYSTEM}")12:44
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King_DuckZthen in the same directory just running cmake . should return an error like CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:1 (message): Linux-2.6.32-504.el6.x86_6412:45
King_DuckZin that case el6 stands for enterprise linux 6 I think, so it's sort of helpful12:46
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suythat seems the uname, so very little useful12:47
King_DuckZI get Linux-3.0.35-16-ARCH on arch... seems useful to me12:48
King_DuckZcmake has support for regex so you can match for paterns12:49
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suyWhich is terribly brittle, don't do that. If you want to know if you are building for sailfish, do as I suggested: detect via pkg-config if libsailfishapp is available. Or, given that packages are build through a specific RPM, pass a parameter when rpmbuild is called.12:51
suyYou can't rely on the version to detect the specific of the OS. Those change easily.12:51
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Stskeepsmoo achipa12:51
achipamoo stskeeps!12:52
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King_DuckZthat adds a dependency to pkg-config tho... I also have to consider the case where there is no such command12:54
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coderusnadley: what example?13:14
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coderusSK_work: done patches: MazeLock for U9 (digits), Exrta emergency numbers, Launcher Grid Advanced, Folder Icons for U9 :)13:25
SK_workcoderus: you are amazing bro13:25
SK_workwhat's launchergrid advanced and extra emergency numbers ?13:25
coderuslaunchergrid advanced watching dconf keys for rows count and first row visible status. you can change rows on the fly13:27
coderusextra emergency numbers watching dconf key for array of extra numbers available to call from emergency mode when phone is locked13:27
coderusfor example in russia we have 0x0, 00x (1-rescue, 2-ambulance, 3-police, 4-gas service)13:29
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SK_workcoderus: haha, nice13:38
SK_workcoderus: so, N913:38
SK_workfor emergency, it is N9 like ?13:39
SK_workyou hit 112, it displays emergency ?13:39
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coderusSK_work: lock device with code and click emergency button13:58
coderusthats it13:58
coderusit's already here :D13:58
coderuspatch just added some more numbers to emergency list13:58
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coderusif you try to dial some number gui will say "you can only dial emergency numbers"13:59
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SK_workcoderus: ah ?14:09
SK_workok14:09
SK_work:)14:09
coderus:)14:13
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King_DuckZthis should take care of things, in case anybody is interested http://pastebin.com/azd30vAf14:28
King_DuckZthe whole thing should be enclosed into an if is linux, and instead of exiting with an error you can like add_definitions(-D__SAILFISH__)14:29
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King_DuckZthe suggested way to test if it's linux iirc is:  if (CMAKE_SYSTEM_NAME STREQUAL "Linux")14:32
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stephg_jhi is thr meeting in 25 minutes?14:35
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coderuswho is ready to test following patches on u9 before i releasing them?15:06
coderus1. MazeLock for Devicelock15:06
coderus2. LauncherGrid Advanced15:06
coderus3. Extra emergency numbers list15:07
coderus4. FolderIcons remastered for u915:07
coderusrequires patchmanager15:07
coderus1. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/u9patches/sailfishos-mazelock-patch-0.0.1-1.noarch.rpm15:09
coderus2. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/u9patches/sailfishos-launchergrid-advanced-patch-0.0.1-1.noarch.rpm15:09
coderus3. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/u9patches/sailfishos-extra-emergency-patch-0.0.1-1.noarch.rpm15:09
coderus4. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/u9patches/sailfishos-folder-icons-patch-0.0.1-1.noarch.rpm15:10
SK_workcoderus: you have sources ?15:10
SK_workcould you show me the folder icon ?15:10
SK_workand other stuff ?15:10
coderusSK_work: uploading15:10
SK_workdon't know if I can merge them15:10
coderuswait :)15:10
SK_workthanks :)15:10
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coderusSK_work: https://github.com/CODeRUS/sailfishos-folder-icons-patch/blob/u9/patch/unified_diff.patch15:12
SK_workcoderus: thanks15:13
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coderushttps://github.com/CODeRUS/sailfishos-mazelock-patch15:15
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coderushttps://github.com/CODeRUS/sailfishos-launchergrid-advanced-patch15:17
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coderushttps://github.com/CODeRUS/sailfishos-extra-emergency-patch15:19
coderusdone :)15:19
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SK_workstarring them15:22
SK_workwill check15:22
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coderusfor maze lock: long press enabling digits keypad if you have troubles entering your previous code.15:27
coderusah, and i need to release captcha-confirmation-devicelock patch separately15:28
coderusit now integrated into mazelock15:28
coderuseach 3rd wrong code attempt it asking to enter 31795 before entering code again :)15:28
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nadleycoderus: sorry for the delay but I'm looking for an example app or source code of an existing one which is a good one, to learn more about best practice on apps developpement on sailfish15:31
coderusnadley: first check examples folder in SDK15:32
coderuscomponentgallery have most of cases using silica15:32
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nadleycoderus: ok thanks15:43
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micha_hi15:49
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SK_workstephg: so, what did you managed to extract ?15:59
stephghang on, mouth/fingers full of calamari16:00
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stephgSK_work: right, sorry, ok so endpoints for the github stuff are straightforward to query, and that's maybe 1/4 or 1/3 of the sources, all under github.com/nemomobile and github.com/nemomobile-packages16:06
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stephgyou know about the former but I wasn't sure about the latter16:06
stephgthe gitlab on git.merproject.org was slightly more problematic as searching wasn't straight forward16:07
stephgbuuuut16:07
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stephgif you query this with your access token: https://git.merproject.org/api/v3/groups/2816:08
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stephgyou end up with json for everything16:09
stephgsec I'll upload somewhere but you'll want a json prettifier16:09
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SK_workstephg: thanks16:15
stephghttps://paste.kde.org/pjiyxwthc16:15
stephganyway with that and a bit of jq and grep you can then clone everything16:16
stephgand with that you then have the spec files16:16
stephgfrom which you can then generate everything you like16:16
ulvusHi16:16
stephgso the question is, what's useful after that. mapping real packages on-device to that doesn't necessarily strike me as useful16:16
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stephgSK_work: e.g. that json run through this: gives you everything to clone:16:18
stephgcat mer-core.list | jq '.[]' | grep 'http_url_to_repo' | awk ' {print $2}' | sed -e 's/"//g'  | sed -e 's/,//g'16:18
stephg(my jq/json sucks, yours will be far better)16:18
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stephganyway I cloned the lot (qt doesn't work over https, it's too big) and then was messing with rpmspec running from find but that wasn't working as I wanted16:22
stephgand now it's not in my history16:22
stephgbut from there it depends what people want16:22
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SK_workstephg: I would like to have the content of *.spec from each repo16:24
SK_workdo you think that this can be done ?16:24
SK_workspec mapped to each repo16:24
stephgyes absolutely16:25
stephgI was just looking for a clean way to do it in one line16:25
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stephgI mean I can give you that as a tarball right now  if you want16:26
stephg(and you're happy for it to be from last week)16:26
SK_workstephg: can you give me a tarball of each spec inside a folder that is named the same pas the repo16:27
SK_work(that can be found in json ?)16:27
stephgyep16:27
SK_workhum16:27
stephgso how I have them at the moment16:27
SK_workok16:27
SK_worksend it to me then16:27
stephgis projname/repo16:28
SK_workI don't have rpm executable but can parse spec16:28
SK_workstephg: good16:28
stephge.g. mer-core/e2fsprogs16:28
stephgor nemomobile/libcommhistory16:28
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stephgthe spec files move around btw, most are in $group/$repo/rpm but some are not16:29
stephganyway let me generate that for you16:29
stephggive me a couple of minutes: need beer, toilet ;)16:29
SK_work:)16:30
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stephggenerating now (unless my file command is broke)16:38
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ulvusSK_work: have you talked about linux, making you own distro or linux machine?16:41
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urjamanbt1, what means screen blank and 3 green blinks of led --> home screen?16:44
SK_workurjaman: not really16:44
SK_workurjaman: means homescreen crashed16:44
urjamanok random, did cut url with fingerterm and the 1st time it did that...16:45
urjaman(well a fork, thumbterm)16:46
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urjamanulvus: ^^ i think tha(1st)t was for you16:48
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urjaman_*that 1st...16:48
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ulvusOk. Thx16:48
stephgSK_work: right done, where shall I put it? does the sfos wiki support attachments?16:49
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SK_workstephg: send it to me by mail16:51
SK_workat some point we should be able to have one script to do everything16:51
stephg kk16:51
stephgyeah16:51
SK_workknow my mail ? you can read any git commit log :)16:52
stephgthat's why I asked in #mer-meeting (where you should go now) as tbr had mentioned something (like a wiki-to-gitlab gateway) that could do it16:52
SK_workstephg: not sure about a wiki to gitlab gateway16:53
SK_worksome manual scripts should be enough imo16:53
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stephgSK_work: tarball on its way to you, complete with complete-ish instructions17:14
stephgplease share with folks if it's useful17:15
jcbjoe__best os i been on .. i'm getting a jolla / sailfish phone first of the month :D17:24
jcbjoe__beatufil phone17:24
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qt_junkie:)17:28
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Armadillojcbjoe__ congratulations ;)17:29
jcbjoe__Armadillo: well i'm running it on a nexus 4 right now and i can't stop using it meaning the next phone will be a jolla phone17:31
jcbjoe__thanks17:31
jcbjoe__i'm sold :D17:31
Armadillo:D17:31
jcbjoe__thank god for ebay17:32
coderusSK_work: news?17:39
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ulvusHi sailfisher18:02
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SK_workcoderus: still at work. Party tonight so no news soon :(18:31
coderus;D18:32
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coderuswhat command to force devicelock phone?18:43
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* nadley is back :D18:48
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coderusNeed testers for new patches for #SailfishOS (MazeLock included!) using Uitukka: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1452382#post145238218:52
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nadleycoderus: should I do something special on my jolla phone to connect QtCreator to it ? looks like it needs ssh access18:59
nadleymy mistake dev mode need to be enable19:00
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coderusnadley: devmode and enable ssh and set some password manually :)19:01
nadleyhum weird I got a conection refused...19:02
coderusnadley: you need to reconnect cable now and choose developer mode :)19:07
coderusfor old windows you need to install rndis driver19:07
coderusfor linkus you need to create new dhcp connection for usbX interface19:07
TemeVI think sshd doesn't start when enabling it from settings19:07
TemeVat least it didn't use to do that19:08
coderushm, right, probably you need a reboot :)19:08
nadleyok I tried the reboot19:08
nadleythen if nothing is ok I'll fallback to the cable :D19:09
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TemeVand you enabled remote connection?19:09
nadleyTemeV: of course19:09
TemeVjust checking :)19:09
nadleyan setup a password19:09
nadleytrying to connect from QtCreator and then from my terminal directly19:10
nadleyafter reboot ssh is ok19:12
nadleyShould I deploy by copying binaries or creating rpm for test purpose ?19:15
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TemeVDeploy as RPM seems to be most reliable for me19:16
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nadleyTemeV: so the first option as there is also an option to deploy by building an rpm19:17
TemeVif you choose "Building an RPM" it doesn't really deploy, just creates the rpm19:17
nadleyok19:17
TemeVyes, the first one19:17
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nadleyok deploying works so let's start building something19:19
tbrstephg: um, right now I don't remember mentioning such a thing. try poking me tomorrow.19:19
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stephgno worries or rush tbr, you were the one suggesting it :)20:43
stephgeep baby scare, Mrs Steph in overnight hospital, bbl :(20:44
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M4rtinKlet's make QtQuick Controls available on Sailfish OS: https://together.jolla.com/question/71520/request-qtquick-controls/ :)22:18
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coderusMazeLock patch available on openrepos now: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-mazelock22:42
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