saidinesh5 | sandsmark: that also doesnt explainn why their hello world plugin doesnt work properly | 00:00 |
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sandsmark | ah, I need hunspell? | 00:00 |
sandsmark | I thought I had hunspell | 00:00 |
saidinesh5 | to compile yes | 00:00 |
saidinesh5 | and who doesnt havve hunspell | 00:00 |
sandsmark | extra/hunspell 1.3.3-1 [installed] | 00:00 |
saidinesh5 | see? | 00:00 |
sandsmark | gah | 00:01 |
sandsmark | I need to CONFIG+=hunspell manually apparentl | 00:01 |
sandsmark | brb | 00:01 |
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saidinesh5 | i did that too afaik | 00:01 |
blackduke | I guys | 00:01 |
blackduke | Hi* | 00:01 |
saidinesh5 | sup blackduke | 00:02 |
blackduke | newbie here for the sailfishos pretty excited by what it can do and being able to port it across to my Huawei | 00:02 |
Yaniel | lachs0r: looks like it varies a lot between people | 00:02 |
lachs0r | yeah | 00:03 |
Yaniel | from about what I have with these to they-really-disappeared-completely deep | 00:03 |
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Yaniel | anyway, nice chatting and I'm off for tonight | 00:04 |
blackduke | anyone else ported across to different hardware? | 00:04 |
Yaniel | blackduke: there is #sailfishos-porters dedicated to that | 00:05 |
blackduke | OK cool, thanks for that | 00:05 |
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sandsmark | saidinesh5: ok, their works | 00:15 |
sandsmark | I'll try to look more at it tomorrow... | 00:15 |
saidinesh5 | Oooo | 00:15 |
saidinesh5 | sure | 00:15 |
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sandsmark | or rather do something more useful :p | 00:15 |
sandsmark | now that everything seems to work | 00:15 |
saidinesh5 | but our plugin still doesnt work right? | 00:15 |
sandsmark | it shows up | 00:15 |
saidinesh5 | Also it does?// | 00:15 |
saidinesh5 | any patches to maliit-framework? | 00:16 |
sandsmark | nope | 00:16 |
sandsmark | not any needed | 00:16 |
sandsmark | only need to patch my stupidity | 00:16 |
saidinesh5 | lol | 00:17 |
saidinesh5 | let me test it out then | 00:17 |
saidinesh5 | hmm.. making maliit-framework | 00:20 |
saidinesh5 | sandsmark: its not showing for me | 00:23 |
saidinesh5 | skeyer... | 00:23 |
sandsmark | sure it isn't just taking a long time? | 00:24 |
saidinesh5 | oh wait.. | 00:24 |
saidinesh5 | WARNING: qrc:///qml/main.qml:2:1: module "QtQuick.Window" is not installed | 00:24 |
saidinesh5 | weird........ | 00:24 |
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sandsmark | o.O | 00:25 |
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saidinesh5 | i think i have to install some stuff | 00:27 |
saidinesh5 | hold | 00:27 |
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saidinesh5 | sandsmark: nope | 00:34 |
saidinesh5 | no luck | 00:34 |
saidinesh5 | any patches to skeyer itself? | 00:34 |
saidinesh5 | i do get this though | 00:34 |
saidinesh5 | WARNING: An inactive plugin is misbehaving - tried to show a window! | 00:34 |
saidinesh5 | and i built maliit-framework from upstream | 00:34 |
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w00t | saidinesh5: if you're trying to build a custom maliit-framework on sailfish, then you will need to start from the nemo-packaged one, as there's a few patches required | 01:23 |
* saidinesh5 looks | 01:24 | |
w00t | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/maliit-framework/commits/master | 01:24 |
saidinesh5 | yup looking at it.. | 01:25 |
saidinesh5 | meanwhile.... http://www.theverge.com/tldr/2014/12/29/7460233/quake-oscilloscope-demonstration-video | 01:25 |
saidinesh5 | w00t: weirdly enough the maliit plugin was working sailfish without much tinkering.. | 01:26 |
saidinesh5 | interesting....... | 01:27 |
w00t | saidinesh5: it will kind of work, using the wayland IM plugin, but that isn't really tested at all and has some bugs lurking | 01:27 |
saidinesh5 | so lipstick is analogus to mer? | 01:28 |
saidinesh5 | Ahh | 01:28 |
w00t | the lipstick "platform" is a simple hack that was done back before wayland had proper IM support, it should go away someday | 01:28 |
saidinesh5 | w00t: i had to write a similar platform plugin for mer... | 01:28 |
saidinesh5 | Ahh i see | 01:28 |
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saidinesh5 | hmm.... not sure if i see any magic commits here that might help us.. this only means one thing. clone quickinputplugin properly ...... (<- sandsmark) | 01:33 |
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saidinesh5 | okay Zzzzzz time now. nini w00t | 01:39 |
w00t | the differing platform I would suspect will be causing you problems. worth a shot :) | 01:40 |
saidinesh5 | could be.. but also we were setting the geometry in the constructor.... which apparently is not the way of the maliit | 01:41 |
saidinesh5 | w00t: that reminds me.. | 01:41 |
saidinesh5 | why are the maliit plugins trying to use d pointer? | 01:41 |
saidinesh5 | any idea? | 01:41 |
w00t | what do you mean | 01:42 |
saidinesh5 | like i dont see any good reason for that there.. | 01:42 |
w00t | as in, why the plugins themselves do? consistency, probably | 01:42 |
w00t | once you get in the habit of doing it, you tend to do it without thinking | 01:42 |
w00t | and it does have advantages other than binary compatibility | 01:42 |
saidinesh5 | Ahhh | 01:42 |
saidinesh5 | lesser compile time? | 01:42 |
w00t | yes (if your class internals are in a seperate header file, or in the cpp file, then changing it means you only rebuild the stuff actually touching the implementation) | 01:42 |
saidinesh5 | yeah .. but dunno that code seemed overly complex.. so was curious | 01:43 |
saidinesh5 | well overly complex or underdocumented :P | 01:43 |
saidinesh5 | laters :) | 01:48 |
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lachs0r | meh, gstreamer can’t handle wavpack properly and tracker doesn’t read apev2 tags | 08:32 |
lachs0r | useless | 08:32 |
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lachs0r | and rather than ignoring files it doesn’t support, I’ve now got thousands of files with no metadata and completely random durations in the media app | 08:35 |
lachs0r | I was half expecting it to play ear destroying noise but at least it doesn’t attempt to play any | 08:35 |
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lbt | lachs0r: src here : https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/tracker/tree/master/tracker send a PR | 10:11 |
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billtux | hi all :) just ordered myself a shiney new jolla phone | 10:39 |
Stskeeps | cool :) | 10:39 |
Stskeeps | thank you for helping pay our paychecks and such | 10:39 |
billtux | ha. Is there a centeral forum/community site? | 10:40 |
Stskeeps | together.jolla.com is one at least | 10:40 |
tadzik | billtux, welcome :) | 10:40 |
Morpog_PC | billtux, also talk.maemo.org (non official) | 10:41 |
Stskeeps | also blog.jolla.com for blog stuf | 10:41 |
Stskeeps | f | 10:41 |
Morpog_PC | and sites like jollusers.com jollatides.com http://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/ and thejollablog.com | 10:42 |
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billtux | cheers. See the SDK just creating a project to play around with it. What arch is the jolla? Seems to be 2 when i go to create a project | 11:23 |
kimmoli | arm for device, 486 for emulator | 11:23 |
billtux | ah nice cheers | 11:23 |
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Yaniel | device is armv7hl | 11:31 |
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r0kk3rz | build a toh with a better DAC and pre-amp | 11:35 |
r0kk3rz | hmm, i should probably scroll down before commenting | 11:36 |
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Yaniel | that would be cool though | 11:39 |
Yaniel | kimmoli? :P | 11:39 |
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kimmoli | need the spi from sdcard then | 11:40 |
Yaniel | and analog volume control maybe | 11:40 |
r0kk3rz | yeah i2c probably doesnt have enough bandwidth | 11:43 |
urjaman | I'd like an amp you jumper from the phone output + analog volume wheel for it ... but i guess my TOH-place will be busy enough with the kbd | 11:43 |
r0kk3rz | yeah that would be doable, looks like you can get amp ICs with i2c controls | 11:48 |
r0kk3rz | so you can control from an app, | 11:48 |
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r0kk3rz | i think dirk has already made a prototype of such | 11:49 |
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kimmoli | no i2c there ... | 11:50 |
kimmoli | just audio from headphonejack + amp + speakers (iirc) | 11:50 |
entil | urjaman: you can pull off the keyboard and make a magnetic other toh ;P | 11:50 |
urjaman | yeah and i dunno why you'd need I2C control when you've got an analog volume wheel (that was kinda the point) :P | 11:50 |
entil | (the term othertoh for magnetic halves should be a real thing ;P) | 11:51 |
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r0kk3rz | analog wheel would be pretty bulky | 11:53 |
r0kk3rz | you could use an ipod style clickwheel | 11:54 |
Yaniel | TOHPod? | 11:54 |
urjaman | how do i disable this lowmemorykiller? ... its being annoying for my current purpose :P | 11:57 |
Stskeeps | just remember that sometimes a device is -actually- out of memory.. | 11:58 |
urjaman | it seems to be an add-on to the normal really-out-of-memory killer | 11:58 |
Yaniel | there is a post on tjc about it | 11:58 |
Stskeeps | so it gets into a cycle where it pushes out data and drags them in constantly | 11:58 |
Stskeeps | which is not nice for anybody | 11:58 |
urjaman | yeah but i want to compile this file, dont kill my cc1 when there would've been lots of swap free... it just didnt have time to push it to swap | 11:59 |
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urjaman | theres a tjc post about the real OOM killer, but didnt find one for this U10 thing... | 12:01 |
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urjaman | now found one ... | 12:03 |
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urjaman | but without any info on how do i disable that, geeze... | 12:04 |
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Stskeeps | it's always a balancing. do you want to have your wife reliably able to call you under memory pressure? :P | 12:05 |
urjaman | found the android kernel plugin sources... i guess i'll figure it out | 12:07 |
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urjaman | also, nobody calls me | 12:07 |
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urjaman | i adjusted the thresholds to be less aggressive | 12:12 |
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flwittmann | onStatusChanged is not triggered when returning to page from cover? How do I implement a action that is called when I click on my app cover and return to my app | 12:16 |
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urjaman | yay, it compiled that file :P | 12:19 |
Armadillo | flwittmann I'm using this: https://github.com/Armadill0/harbour-tasklist/blob/master/qml/harbour-tasklist.qml#L102 | 12:19 |
flwittmann | Armadillo thanks! | 12:19 |
urjaman | required only some 850M of virtual memory (500M of resident for cc1 and most of swap used) to do that | 12:20 |
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r0kk3rz | maybe an idea not to kill the current task? | 12:47 |
r0kk3rz | if many tasks sure kill a few, but if you're only running one task maybe leave it a bit longer before killing | 12:48 |
r0kk3rz | or instead of preemptively killing, only kill upon incoming call (if possible) | 12:48 |
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SaberAltria | Hello | 13:02 |
SaberAltria | Is TabView { } available in SailfishOs SDK? | 13:02 |
SaberAltria | import QtQuick.Controls 1.0 doesn't exist for me | 13:03 |
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flwittmann | Can I read other apps databases to create an import function for a new app? | 15:16 |
billtux | exit | 15:16 |
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flwittmann | And if yes, is it possible in a harbour valid way? | 15:16 |
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akloud | hi all! | 16:00 |
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Nc_ | Anyone tried using QXMPP on SailfishOS? | 16:08 |
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akloud | how do I invoke a method of a C++ class in QML? do I have to instantiate the class somehow? | 16:32 |
r0kk3rz | akloud: theres a few methods, you can register the type, or register an object | 16:32 |
r0kk3rz | or set a context property | 16:33 |
r0kk3rz | eg. https://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/src/SirenSong-Media-Player.cpp#L43 | 16:34 |
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akloud | r0kk3rz: thanks, that is a great link! | 16:36 |
r0kk3rz | might be worth doing up a blog post about it, seems to be a fairly common question | 16:37 |
r0kk3rz | as which method is best really depends on what you're trying to throw into QML land | 16:38 |
akloud | actually, for someone not that familiar with QT it is not that obvious how to link QML and C++ | 16:38 |
akloud | I just want to know where to put my application logic. | 16:39 |
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akloud | if I got it right one could compare QML to XAML in WPF and then C++ to C#. he difference is only that it appears to be much tighter integrated in the winsucks world. | 16:40 |
r0kk3rz | kinda | 16:41 |
r0kk3rz | i like QML better tan WPF | 16:41 |
r0kk3rz | and its also got a JS engine so you can do some cool UI stuff if you want to | 16:41 |
r0kk3rz | again, it really depends on what your app does, but I would try and keep most of the logic in C++ | 16:42 |
akloud | I hate XAML, so QML appears to be a kinda nice approach to GUI development. we will see how far it takes me | 16:42 |
r0kk3rz | QML is obscenely easy to learn and very powerful | 16:42 |
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r0kk3rz | the syntax is so easy to read compared to the XML syntax of XAML | 16:43 |
akloud | ok, thx for the hint. | 16:43 |
akloud | I fully agree! | 16:43 |
sandsmark | akloud: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-topic.html | 16:43 |
r0kk3rz | im fairly new to both QT and XAML, but unfortunately my new job requires me to learn XAML | 16:44 |
r0kk3rz | but its painful, because i know how good QML is | 16:44 |
akloud | sandsmark: thx! will read that... | 16:44 |
sandsmark | akloud: in general the Qt documentation is really excellent | 16:45 |
sandsmark | compared to pretty much any other library or framework I've used | 16:45 |
sandsmark | and it is usually pretty succinct, some documentation (especially for java stuff..) is overly verbose | 16:45 |
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akloud | r0kk3rz: well, the WYSISWYG part is something you will love, but as long as you stick to your pattern of putting the logic in the C# world it is a highly productive way of programming. | 16:46 |
r0kk3rz | the XAML UIs in my works application dont render in the Designer | 16:47 |
r0kk3rz | and MVC is how ive always structured applications | 16:47 |
akloud | I just used QT in the past (by linking against it) but never used all the framework elements for my development. so I am really starting from 0 | 16:47 |
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Nc_ | building, getting error "Unknown module(s) in QT: testlib" - anyone happen to know what package that library might be in? (tried installed a few plausible ones, so far no luck) | 16:48 |
akloud | but I really have to admit that the community is very helpful, so it is really a pleasure to learn this stuff besides the job and family. | 16:50 |
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r0kk3rz | akloud: theres also plenty of open source apps to learn from | 16:51 |
akloud | yes, but I am still feeling around where everything is hosted. | 16:53 |
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akloud | you siren example was a real kick start! thanks, I got it to work! | 17:05 |
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akloud | I've heard something about harbour and dbus. would there be a problem if I would like to provide an app via harbour which uses dbus to e.g. enable(disable wifi connection? | 17:09 |
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tigeli | akloud: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 17:12 |
akloud | btw, which QT version is actually used for developing? | 17:12 |
tigeli | akloud: What D-Bus API's can I use? | 17:12 |
akloud | tigeli: thx! | 17:12 |
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tigeli | D-Bus APIs generally are available to you if you have the right to access them from your application without raising the applications privileges. The PackageKit D-Bus API is the one big exception there at the moment. See question above. | 17:12 |
akloud | tigeli: wow, there is so much to learn... thx! | 17:17 |
kimmoli | akloud: have been here for year now, and i dont know a sh*t yet - but learning slowly | 17:18 |
kimmoli | one annoying is that there is so many ways to do things, specially if you learn them by trial-error way, then someone directs you to a different way (maybe correct, dunno) | 17:18 |
akloud | kimmoli: yep, there is that nice noto youtube vid, but it would be extremely helpful to have something covering the steps like download sdk, install, build HelloWorld, run on emulator, now run on your Jolla phone, if you want to proceed, create new app named harbour-yourstuff, how to publish it to harbour etc. | 17:23 |
akloud | it is very difficult for me to get the big picture | 17:23 |
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kimmoli | but you just wrote it ? :) | 17:24 |
akloud | kimmoli: got it... :-] | 17:25 |
kimmoli | if going for harbour-, use the SDK harbour tools validator | 17:26 |
TemeV | https://openrepos.net/content/marco73f/jollagram | 17:26 |
TemeV | it seems I chose a good time to give up on developing telegram for Jolla :) | 17:27 |
r0kk3rz | kimmoli: well you're an EE by trade arent you? you're a pretty decent programmer for an EE anyway :P | 17:27 |
kimmoli | r0kk3rz: :) | 17:28 |
kimmoli | only what i have learned during a year | 17:29 |
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akloud | gtg, thanks for your help guys! | 17:30 |
r0kk3rz | TemeV: from the comments that looks like a Mitakuuluu fork | 17:32 |
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TemeV | oh, I didn't read the comments. Well, I was also going to use qml from Mitäkuuluu :) | 17:49 |
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* Nokius__ happy new year @ everone | 18:15 | |
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saidinesh5 | sandsmark: just a heads up.. almost done implementing that geometry container too | 19:16 |
saidinesh5 | KeyboardContainer i mean | 19:16 |
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saidinesh5 | sandsmark: i think you will like this commit.. check out the demo once :P | 21:30 |
saidinesh5 | run_demo | 21:30 |
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jcbjoe | Happy New Year My finnish Brothers and Sisters!! | 23:03 |
qt_junkie | jcbjoe: Jippii, may sailfishos see many more years to come. | 23:05 |
jcbjoe | :P | 23:05 |
jcbjoe | im on amazon uk trying to purchase this jolla phone | 23:06 |
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jwalck | happy new year sailors! | 23:46 |
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