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Almindor | is there a way to see crash reports when app crashes outside the debugger in some log somewhere? | 02:10 |
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Almindor | my app crashes right after start sometimes, but I can't get it to happen from the debugger | 02:10 |
coderus | ulimit -c unlimited is working on salifishos? | 02:11 |
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flux | I don't know, but if it doesn't, you can probably fix it by echo core > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern | 06:48 |
flux | or, if there's a handler there, perhaps it does something useful with the cores. probably not :) | 06:49 |
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rainemak | coderus, hellp | 07:06 |
rainemak | coderus, hello | 07:06 |
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rainemak | coderus, build and install qtmozembed (e.g. update11 branch or tag nemo/1.12.5.2) to sb2 target | 07:10 |
rainemak | coderus, install also to device | 07:10 |
rainemak | coderus, repository being git@github.com:nemomobile-packages/qtmozembed.git | 07:10 |
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rainemak | coderus, then build browser against that one | 07:11 |
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kimmoli | iekku: it was ok to reuse rejected harbour app? or was this ok only for drafts? | 07:54 |
kimmoli | reuse = use it for different app? | 07:55 |
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iekku | kimmoli, if you can change needed details, yes. but it's ok too to create new one and ask us to delete old one | 08:13 |
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kimmoli | iekku: sorry to scatter things between irc/mail :P | 08:22 |
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iekku | kimmoli, i don't mind :) | 08:22 |
Armadillo | iekku you can delete drafts? | 08:22 |
iekku | Armadillo, i can send request, if there's need. i need written request to developer-care@ | 08:22 |
iekku | jolla.com | 08:23 |
Armadillo | roger :) | 08:23 |
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soHigh | hi | 08:33 |
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Armadillo | https://together.jolla.com/question/1077/suggestion-email-folder-sorting/ | 09:00 |
Armadillo | could someone at Jolla please have a look at this? | 09:00 |
Armadillo | I don't think this should be a suggestion, I think this is a bug | 09:01 |
Armadillo | and it is really getting on my nervs | 09:01 |
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Juuba | :D | 09:01 |
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Juuba | i just had similar "problem" or issue today | 09:02 |
Juuba | i have inbox/folder1/folder2 | 09:02 |
Juuba | folder2 is beneath "Junk" folder in the phone. | 09:02 |
Juuba | for some odd reason. | 09:02 |
Juuba | contents are correct | 09:02 |
Armadillo | I don't know how the mail client rebuilds the structure of my mail accounts, but I would consider to name it "art" as I don't know which sorting could create such crazy structures | 09:03 |
Armadillo | yes, it's only the folder sorting which is completely broken | 09:03 |
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Juuba | +1 and commented. | 09:05 |
Armadillo | thanks :) | 09:05 |
Juuba | also | 09:05 |
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Juuba | is there no way to download older emails? | 09:05 |
Armadillo | ah you have Exchange | 09:05 |
Armadillo | have a look at this: https://together.jolla.com/question/32807/bug-exchange-folders-hierarchy-structuretree-order-wrong/ | 09:05 |
Juuba | oh, thanks | 09:05 |
ln- | maybe better edit the "Suggestion" out of the title too | 09:05 |
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Armadillo | but I think this is a general issue with the mail client | 09:05 |
Armadillo | ln- not enough karma :-/ | 09:06 |
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Armadillo | maybe someone else can do this for me :) | 09:07 |
Juuba | i can | 09:07 |
Juuba | replace wiht what? | 09:07 |
Juuba | Bug? | 09:07 |
Armadillo | yes | 09:07 |
Juuba | [Bug] ? | 09:07 |
Armadillo | exactly | 09:07 |
Juuba | done. | 09:07 |
Armadillo | thanks | 09:07 |
Juuba | np | 09:08 |
Juuba | surprised I had the mojo to do it :D | 09:08 |
Juuba | \o/ | 09:08 |
Armadillo | :D | 09:08 |
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Armadillo | something between 183 and 331 seems to be the needed limit :D | 09:09 |
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LordChavez83 | hello | 10:15 |
faenil | yo | 10:17 |
tbr | moo™ | 10:18 |
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LordChavez83 | lol | 10:20 |
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ikarus | perhaps someone here has solved it, in QML, WebView or SilicaWebView, has someone figured out how to control cookies ? | 11:19 |
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ikarus | As reverse embedding is impossible, I can't go the desktop route of embedding the QtWidgets Qt WebKit and implementing it that way | 11:20 |
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sandsmark | ikarus: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qqmlengine.html#networkAccessManager | 11:28 |
sandsmark | ikarus: and then: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qnetworkaccessmanager.html#cookieJar | 11:28 |
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ikarus | sandsmark: actually read the mailinglist posts, that NAM is used ONLY by QML when it fetches QML pages over the internet, NOT when it hits WebView | 11:31 |
ikarus | but sure, if you are claiming it still works, I think I can easily test it | 11:32 |
sandsmark | oh, damn | 11:32 |
sandsmark | yeah, it might use its own... | 11:32 |
sandsmark | the qml webview has become so crippled... | 11:32 |
ikarus | It used to be the right answer for Qt4.x | 11:32 |
ikarus | sandsmark: and clearing cookies or even going to private mode is such a basic elementary task | 11:32 |
sandsmark | yeah | 11:33 |
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sandsmark | and now the new blink-based web stuff is "preferred", with even less controls :D | 11:33 |
ikarus | sandsmark: "blink based" ? | 11:34 |
sandsmark | as in google blink | 11:34 |
sandsmark | http://qt-project.org/wiki/QtWebEngine | 11:34 |
ikarus | originally they where planning to offer more controls, guess where that goes | 11:35 |
ikarus | I am almost tempted to fork QQuickWebView and just expose the required APIs | 11:35 |
ikarus | (can't inherit and extend as it's made too private) | 11:35 |
sandsmark | it has some private APIs that you can use, but they aren't really much better | 11:36 |
ikarus | sandsmark: yup, but with some bruteforce I can just get hold of the NAM | 11:37 |
sandsmark | suresure | 11:37 |
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sandsmark | you could try walking the QObject tree until you hit some cookie jars :p | 11:37 |
sandsmark | I wanted access to the DOM of the webview to be able to do ad blocking, but meh | 11:37 |
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sandsmark | that's only available in the widget based api | 11:37 |
ikarus | .... | 11:38 |
coderus | rainemak: okay thanks! i used tmeshkova repo :) | 11:38 |
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coderus | rainemak: but master branch looks up-to date? | 11:39 |
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rainemak | coderus, tmeshkova repo is good as well | 11:43 |
rainemak | coderus, all latest stuff is in master | 11:43 |
rainemak | coderus, don't recall if new icons went out already in update10 or are they part of update11 | 11:44 |
rainemak | coderus, definitely part of update that contains new browser ui | 11:45 |
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ikarus | sandsmark: just checked, QQuickWebView got changed so much that it only very indirectly references the engine and hence NAM | 11:48 |
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sandsmark | ugh | 11:50 |
ikarus | used to be that you could grab view->engine() | 11:50 |
ikarus | but nope that would be too useful | 11:51 |
coderus | rainemak: icons are in update11 :D | 11:51 |
coderus | rainemak: just last thing i need: is there latest xulrunner-qt5 package built? | 11:51 |
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coderus | in nemo-mw-latest debug built, is there release one? | 11:52 |
sandsmark | ikarus: I can see why, though, webkit is developed at a high pace, so having a lot of exposed hooks is time consuming | 11:52 |
rainemak | situ could have mer obs repository building latest release | 11:52 |
rainemak | not sure | 11:53 |
situ | rainemak: I have not build it in a while. | 11:53 |
rainemak | situ, aah ok | 11:53 |
ikarus | sandsmark: sure, but QML is supposed to be a first class citizen for Qt | 11:54 |
sandsmark | indeed | 11:54 |
ikarus | and it is feeling like the ghetto right now | 11:54 |
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ikarus | also not even the Experimental API seems to expose anything for this | 11:56 |
coderus | lbt is for obs? | 12:00 |
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coderus | can i have date in "Changed" column, not just "about 1 month ago"? | 12:02 |
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coderus | siteshwar is situ? | 12:15 |
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situ | coderus: Right. | 12:32 |
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coderus | situ: thanks :D | 12:39 |
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lbt | tbr: what time do you think we should aim to arrive at the restaurant ? | 12:54 |
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coderus | rainemak: ping | 13:04 |
coderus | still same thing | 13:04 |
coderus | /usr/bin/sailfish-browser: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/sailfish-browser: undefined symbol: _ZNK11QMozContext11initializedEv | 13:04 |
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rainemak | coderus, correct header/symbols in build target? QMozContext::initialized() is rather old | 13:07 |
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coderus | rainemak: yes, installed qtmozembed-qt5-1.12.7-10.6.5.jolla.armv7hl with devel to sb2 and rebuild browser | 13:08 |
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Flexman | chem|st: hmm. maybe someone should port k9 to sailfish | 13:30 |
Flexman | shouldn't be too difficult to implent mail-alias in open source tough | 13:30 |
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chem|st | Flexman: I hate that you need to install 3rd party apps to do mail properly! | 14:24 |
Flexman | chem|st: yep... | 14:24 |
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Flexman | well it depends... in android there is no real difference if i use the standard app or K9. but in Sailfish OS tha would mean that I have to use an Android app instead of a native SailfishOS app. | 14:25 |
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chem|st | Flexman: coming from N9* I want things like mail/messaging/services *unified - that is the most annoying part in android... everything is an app... | 14:29 |
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Flexman | chem|st: well, my first smartphone was with Palm OS. there it was called "program" like on a PC. Still it was a great system. | 14:36 |
Flexman | but i don't understand that they always forget about mail identities. every provider offers like "1 mailbox with 10 alias adresses" | 14:37 |
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chem|st | Flexman: identities, pgp, sent-folders... common missing features | 14:38 |
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Flexman | chem|st: jep... | 14:40 |
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Flexman | chem|st: or colored quotes in the mail editor | 14:41 |
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Flexman | Flexman: we get augmented reality apps, etc but it's too complicated to have mail identities and colored quotes | 14:50 |
Flexman | chem|st i mean | 14:50 |
daitheflu | anyone knows an opensource app for Sailfish that uses nemo keepalive ? I'd like to see an example of how it has to be implemented and how it works - Thanks :) | 14:51 |
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chem|st | Flexman: +1 | 14:52 |
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skillz_ | Hi there - I had Google apps installed, and then my phone number changed. Is there a way of removing and reinstalling them? | 15:11 |
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coderus | rainemak: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/pull/278 | 15:15 |
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rainemak | coderus, thanks... try to give a look to tomorrow | 15:30 |
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rainemak | coderus, ok? | 15:31 |
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coderus | sure, why rush? :D | 15:33 |
coderus | its same rozhkov PR, but comflicts resolved | 15:34 |
coderus | it still looks ugly :D | 15:34 |
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coderus | New SailfishOS Browser Nightly build is on OpenRepos! https://openrepos.net/content/sailfishbrowsernightly/sailfish-browser-nightly | 18:10 |
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tbr | lbt: is it downtown or is it near the campus? | 19:02 |
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Nokius_ | coderus: :D | 19:05 |
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Nokius | yeah next weekend Brussels :D:D:D:D:D | 19:06 |
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locusf | Nokius: yeah see you there :) | 19:08 |
coderus | Nokius: ? | 19:09 |
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Nokius | was dancing when my boss says I can have a day free :) | 19:09 |
Nokius | coderus: thanks for the nightly | 19:10 |
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coderus | can you check it first? | 19:10 |
coderus | peoples complainig about errors | 19:10 |
coderus | saying no sailfish-browser-settings, but it's definetly in repo :) | 19:10 |
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Nokius | coderus: are you using a clone and obs to build after every push ? | 19:11 |
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coderus | i'm building on laptop everything | 19:11 |
coderus | not using obs | 19:11 |
Nokius | :) | 19:11 |
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kimmoli | meh, all warnings of my build comes from libiphb.c ... | 19:12 |
coderus | i like to compile everything myself | 19:12 |
Nokius | ^^ | 19:12 |
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* kimmoli does both, locally for own use, obs for harbour | 19:13 | |
coderus | obs for harbour? | 19:13 |
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kimmoli | yes | 19:14 |
coderus | oh, yes! | 19:14 |
kimmoli | \o/ ? | 19:14 |
coderus | what mean "obs for harbour"? | 19:14 |
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kimmoli | the rpm i submit to harbour, are built in mer-obs | 19:14 |
coderus | what the difference? | 19:15 |
Nokius | guess kimmoli use obs to build rpms for harbour | 19:15 |
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kimmoli | i just do it so... (and have possibility to blame someone else if they dont work) | 19:15 |
R-Z | just curious, im not a sailfish os user or anything, but does didint sailfish have unofficial whatsapp clients? | 19:15 |
kimmoli | ..had | 19:16 |
R-Z | mitäkuuluu for example | 19:16 |
Yaniel | that was pretty much the one and only | 19:16 |
* Nokius mh may my Jolla is now a kind of a bastard device to much "fixed" stuff | 19:18 | |
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R-Z | android has few unofficial clients for whatsapp | 19:18 |
R-Z | but now whatsapp is starting to people who use them | 19:19 |
R-Z | and they sent few dcma warnings to developers who worked on them | 19:19 |
Yaniel | they have been banning mitakuuluu users for a long time | 19:19 |
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Nokius | coderus: updating the 3 packages and then I'm ready to go | 19:20 |
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R-Z | ah, i havent yet got banned but ive already send angry emails to the whatsapp customer service | 19:21 |
R-Z | just wanted to hear is it like this with jolla since it doesnt even have a native client | 19:23 |
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coderus | Nokius: working? | 19:32 |
Nokius | wait | 19:33 |
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Nokius | have the same issue as in the openrepos comments | 19:39 |
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coderus | interesting | 19:43 |
coderus | okay | 19:43 |
coderus | will try at gf phone now :D | 19:43 |
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Nokius | looks like sailfish-browser-settings is missing | 19:44 |
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coderus | its definetly here :) | 19:44 |
* Nokius don't crash Miras phone | 19:44 | |
Nokius | nice | 19:45 |
Nokius | mh can't start it via launcher via terminal works | 19:46 |
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coderus | ah got it | 19:46 |
coderus | probably problem in different maintainer | 19:47 |
Nokius | hm still no new tap if I open a link e.g. Twittian | 19:48 |
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* Nokius I love this BROWSER! we is my Jolla tab oh wait | 19:49 | |
coderus | ? :D | 19:50 |
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Nokius | okay has some bugs | 19:52 |
coderus | sure :) | 19:53 |
coderus | it's pre release | 19:53 |
benna86 | hi everyone, I have a technical question on developing jolla apps: is it possible to force pkcon to ignore unsatisfied dependencies and install a required package? ideally I would have it done automatically during installation by the RPM | 19:53 |
Nokius | have to go sorry | 19:54 |
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coderus | benna86: only using rpm/zypper directly | 19:54 |
coderus | you cannot install package with unsatisfied dependencies automatically | 19:55 |
benna86 | unfortunately the package I "need" (it works without it as well) is neither on the official repo nor in openrepos... any idea? | 19:58 |
benna86 | can I make rpm think that another package is satisfying the dependency? | 19:59 |
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Nokius|jolla | coderus: exedently i removed the browser than i installed the settings and tada | 20:02 |
r0kk3rz | benna86: check mer obs | 20:02 |
r0kk3rz | build.merproject.org | 20:02 |
Nokius|jolla | coderus: mhm any way to fix the launch via ui? | 20:03 |
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benna86 | thanks, i'll have a look | 20:06 |
corecomic | salut, anyone knows how to get audio playback (using QMediaPlayer) working in the sailfishos SDK? | 20:07 |
corecomic | when trying to play an audio stream I allways get an error.., 'The QMediaPlayer object does not have a valid service' | 20:07 |
Nokius|jolla | coderus: looks like xulrunner has a problem | 20:07 |
corecomic | on the device it works just fine... | 20:07 |
coderus | Nokius|jolla: what you talking about? | 20:07 |
Nokius|jolla | i cant start the browser via icon | 20:08 |
corecomic | probably missing codecs..? | 20:08 |
Nokius|jolla | coderus: ^ | 20:08 |
coderus | Nokius|jolla: rebbot if cant | 20:08 |
r0kk3rz | or pulseaudio corecomic | 20:08 |
Nokius|jolla | coderus: try to restart lipstick | 20:09 |
Yaniel | corecomic: open the vm settings in virtualbox and enable soundcard there? | 20:10 |
Yaniel | emulator vm | 20:10 |
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corecomic | Yaniel: soundcard is enabled and system sounds do work, but no audio streams | 20:12 |
Nokius|jolla | coderus: worked | 20:12 |
Nokius|jolla | cool the cover is fixed too | 20:13 |
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Nokius|jolla | mh but sometimes there's no | 20:16 |
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corecomic | i.e. this: http://stream.srg-ssr.ch/drs1/mp3_128.m3u plays on the device but not on the emulator | 20:31 |
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M4rtinK | any idea how to open a file browser from QML ? :) | 20:43 |
M4rtinK | for a path of course :-) | 20:44 |
M4rtinK | any of the available ones will do, but I would like not to hardcode individual executable names | 20:44 |
Yaniel | I don't think they are registered with xdg-open | 20:45 |
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coderus | me too | 20:51 |
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ikarus | It has been asked many times before, but no one knows the exact packages you need to get rid of the [W] QPluginServiceProvider::requestService:383 - defaultServiceProvider::requestService(): no service found for - "org.qt-project.qt.mediaplayer" | 21:11 |
ikarus | message in the emulator | 21:11 |
ikarus | as many people before me have reported, it works fine on the actual device | 21:15 |
ikarus | so some multimedia package is missing, but knowing which one would be useful | 21:16 |
coderus | you mean it working on device and not working in emulator or what? | 21:18 |
ikarus | yup | 21:18 |
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coderus | there are no multimedia packages in emulator i think | 21:19 |
ikarus | I think I have the needed requires | 21:19 |
ikarus | - qt5-qtmultimedia | 21:19 |
ikarus | - qt5-qtdeclarative-import-multimedia | 21:19 |
ikarus | - qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer | 21:19 |
ikarus | But that is not sufficient it seems | 21:19 |
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cornerman | jetzt wollen die nen password | 21:38 |
cornerman | sorry wrong window :/ | 21:38 |
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zetaz | hi. Anyone there knows a good howto for Github to OBS to Openrepo ? | 21:41 |
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zetaz | I am currently at the step where I am trying to give files I have in my github to the project I created in OBS... | 21:42 |
tbr | zetaz: kimmoli's packages are quite good, with webhooks and all | 21:42 |
tbr | you'll need to create a _service(?) file | 21:42 |
tbr | look at his stuff | 21:43 |
kimmoli | use eh script | 21:43 |
kimmoli | wh | 21:43 |
zetaz | tbr: hi ! So I have to search for this service file in kimmoli's github ? or in his OBS ? | 21:43 |
kimmoli | this i made just moment ago https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/home:kimmoli:tohs/toholed/_service?expand=1 | 21:44 |
zetaz | kimmoli: which script ? osc ? | 21:44 |
zetaz | kimmoli: thanks ! | 21:44 |
kimmoli | wh is script that runs in mersdk (but i had hard time founding it, can't remember where i found it) | 21:44 |
kimmoli | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Packaging/webhooks | 21:45 |
kimmoli | this might help too | 21:45 |
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tbr | :) | 21:45 |
* tbr had that url in paste buffer | 21:45 | |
zetaz | kimmoli: tbr: Perfect ! | 21:45 |
zetaz | exactly what I was looking for. I was not far from this page, but didn't found it yet | 21:46 |
zetaz | I can continue now | 21:46 |
zetaz | thanks | 21:46 |
r0kk3rz | zetaz: i wrote a blog about it | 21:47 |
r0kk3rz | doesnt use the fancy wh script | 21:47 |
r0kk3rz | but works for me | 21:47 |
zetaz | r0kk3rz: can you give me your blog's address ? | 21:47 |
r0kk3rz | zetaz: http://sailfishwayfarer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/building-apps-with-merobs-and-github.html | 21:47 |
zetaz | r0kk3rz: thanks ! | 21:48 |
kimmoli | first time: i just push tagged commit to github, add webhook in github, run wh script in mersdk, and it builds. | 21:48 |
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kimmoli | ...doesn't need a blog :) | 21:49 |
r0kk3rz | ideally no | 21:50 |
r0kk3rz | but i wrote it anyway | 21:50 |
kimmoli | yeah, it works that way too | 21:50 |
kimmoli | ah, creating bugzilla account, setting up osc in mersdk before wh works was needed, before the really first time. | 21:50 |
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r0kk3rz | yeah i set up osc in a different vm | 21:51 |
ikarus | coderus: so any list of mm packages the emu should have ? | 21:51 |
r0kk3rz | and couldnt be bothered doing it again in mersdk | 21:51 |
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r0kk3rz | kimmoli: you mean i can write a script to ping you on irc and you'll never sleep? | 21:52 |
kimmoli | r0kk3rz: no. it will mute in 5 mins | 21:54 |
r0kk3rz | hehe :) | 21:54 |
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coderus | ikarus: no idea, sorry. not using emulator and you shouldn't also :) | 22:09 |
coderus | do real things on real device | 22:09 |
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coderus | everything above disigning ui should be tested on real device | 22:10 |
zetaz | r0kk3rz: your blog post was perfect. It is running : | 22:18 |
r0kk3rz | awesome | 22:18 |
zetaz | not complicated, but without it I would have spent some time figuring everything out | 22:19 |
r0kk3rz | yeah its really easy, but all that info was in various places, and peoples heads | 22:19 |
zetaz | not I have to check the rpm works. And then pushing it to openrepos ! | 22:19 |
zetaz | so the voicemail notification patch will be my first rpm contributed to jolla's community | 22:20 |
zetaz | :D | 22:20 |
zetaz | by the way, thanks coderus for packaging it already 2 days ago ! | 22:20 |
zetaz | It was helpful to see how it looks like, before trying to do it myself | 22:21 |
r0kk3rz | i should get around to learning how patch manager works | 22:21 |
zetaz | r0kk3rz: it is simple : you package in an rpm 2 files : the diff to apply, and a json describing the patch (maintainer name, details). When you install this rpm, it will copy the files to patch-manager directory. | 22:23 |
zetaz | Then in the settings, in the patch-manager page, it will list all the patchs availlable in its directory, and allow you to active them (==apply them) or not | 22:23 |
zetaz | At least that is the theory. Still have to finish my first patch to be sure I didn't miss something.... | 22:24 |
r0kk3rz | haha | 22:24 |
zetaz | (never be too sure of something, it will haunt you back) | 22:25 |
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r0kk3rz | if it breaks things, fix it | 22:27 |
r0kk3rz | easy | 22:27 |
r0kk3rz | installing things from openrepos is not without its own risks | 22:28 |
zetaz | Yes. But the main risk for my phone is me ;) | 22:29 |
r0kk3rz | yeah thats fine though | 22:29 |
r0kk3rz | you break your own stuff you get to have the fun of fixing it | 22:29 |
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zetaz | yep. I think that is called "learning" ;) | 22:31 |
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zetaz | It works ! | 22:40 |
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artemma | Fresh installation of SDK on Mac OSX. Qt Creator cannot connect to Mer SDK machine while I see it running in Virtual Box. Why? | 23:01 |
artemma | Could not connect to the "MerSDK" virtual machine. Do you want to try again? | 23:01 |
artemma | Connection error: 1 Connection refused | 23:02 |
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artemma | that is funny, mer machine starts and inside sdk in sailfish OS tab I can see web page coming from Mer yet something in Qt Creator fails to connect to mer | 23:14 |
artemma | same with emulator | 23:15 |
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coderus | artemma: refused means bad keys | 23:21 |
coderus | or 2222 port is already used | 23:21 |
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artemma | tried replacing keys, didn;t help | 23:23 |
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artemma | and it seems like it's mer replying on localhost:2222 | 23:26 |
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artemma | hmm, command line ssh gets rejected too, maybe it's still about keys | 23:27 |
artemma | artem-mac-2:~ artem$ ssh -p 2222 -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/engine/mersdk mersdk@localhost | 23:28 |
artemma | ssh: connect to host localhost port 2222: Connection refused | 23:28 |
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Hartzi | artemma: I had the same problem but I can't remember how I fixed it. It wasn't about they keys. | 23:46 |
artemma | Hartzi: thanks. I am stuck so far | 23:51 |
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