Thursday, 2015-01-22

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Almindoris there a way to see crash reports when app crashes outside the debugger in some log somewhere?02:10
Almindormy app crashes right after start sometimes, but I can't get it to happen from the debugger02:10
coderusulimit -c unlimited is working on salifishos?02:11
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fluxI don't know, but if it doesn't, you can probably fix it by echo core > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern06:48
fluxor, if there's a handler there, perhaps it does something useful with the cores. probably not :)06:49
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rainemakcoderus, hellp07:06
rainemakcoderus, hello07:06
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rainemakcoderus, build and install qtmozembed (e.g. update11 branch or tag nemo/ to sb2 target07:10
rainemakcoderus, install also to device07:10
rainemakcoderus, repository being
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rainemakcoderus, then build browser against that one07:11
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kimmoliiekku: it was ok to reuse rejected harbour app? or was this ok only for drafts?07:54
kimmolireuse = use it for different app?07:55
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iekkukimmoli, if you can change needed details, yes. but it's ok too to create new one and ask us to delete old one08:13
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kimmoliiekku: sorry to scatter things between irc/mail :P08:22
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iekkukimmoli, i don't mind :)08:22
Armadilloiekku you can delete drafts?08:22
iekkuArmadillo, i can send request, if there's need. i need written request to developer-care@08:22
Armadilloroger :)08:23
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Armadillocould someone at Jolla please have a look at this?09:00
ArmadilloI don't think this should be a suggestion, I think this is a bug09:01
Armadilloand it is really getting on my nervs09:01
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Juubai just had similar "problem" or issue today09:02
Juubai have inbox/folder1/folder209:02
Juubafolder2 is beneath "Junk" folder in the phone.09:02
Juubafor some odd reason.09:02
Juubacontents are correct09:02
ArmadilloI don't know how the mail client rebuilds the structure of my mail accounts, but I would consider to name it "art" as I don't know which sorting could create such crazy structures09:03
Armadilloyes, it's only the folder sorting which is completely broken09:03
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Juuba+1 and commented.09:05
Armadillothanks :)09:05
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Juubais there no way to download older emails?09:05
Armadilloah you have Exchange09:05
Armadillohave a look at this:
Juubaoh, thanks09:05
ln-maybe better edit the "Suggestion" out of the title too09:05
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Armadillobut I think this is a general issue with the mail client09:05
Armadilloln-  not enough karma :-/09:06
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Armadillomaybe someone else can do this for me :)09:07
Juubai can09:07
Juubareplace wiht what?09:07
Juuba[Bug] ?09:07
Juubasurprised I had the mojo to do it :D09:08
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Armadillosomething between 183 and 331 seems to be the needed limit :D09:09
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ikarusperhaps someone here has solved it, in QML, WebView or SilicaWebView, has someone figured out how to control cookies ?11:19
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ikarusAs reverse embedding is impossible, I can't go the desktop route of embedding the QtWidgets Qt WebKit and implementing it that way11:20
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sandsmarkikarus: and then:
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ikarussandsmark: actually read the mailinglist posts, that NAM is used ONLY by QML when it fetches QML pages over the internet, NOT when it hits WebView11:31
ikarusbut sure, if you are claiming it still works, I think I can easily test it11:32
sandsmarkoh, damn11:32
sandsmarkyeah, it might use its own...11:32
sandsmarkthe qml webview has become so crippled...11:32
ikarusIt used to be the right answer for Qt4.x11:32
ikarussandsmark: and clearing cookies or even going to private mode is such a basic elementary task11:32
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sandsmarkand now the new blink-based web stuff is "preferred", with even less controls :D11:33
ikarussandsmark: "blink based" ?11:34
sandsmarkas in google blink11:34
ikarusoriginally they where planning to offer more controls, guess where that goes11:35
ikarusI am almost tempted to fork QQuickWebView and just expose the required APIs11:35
ikarus(can't inherit and extend as it's made too private)11:35
sandsmarkit has some private APIs that you can use, but they aren't really much better11:36
ikarussandsmark: yup, but with some bruteforce I can just get hold of the NAM11:37
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sandsmarkyou could try walking the QObject tree until you hit some cookie jars :p11:37
sandsmarkI wanted access to the DOM of the webview to be able to do ad blocking, but meh11:37
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sandsmarkthat's only available in the widget based api11:37
coderusrainemak: okay thanks! i used tmeshkova repo :)11:38
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coderusrainemak: but master branch looks up-to date?11:39
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rainemakcoderus, tmeshkova repo is good as well11:43
rainemakcoderus, all latest stuff is in master11:43
rainemakcoderus, don't recall if new icons went out already in update10 or are they part of update1111:44
rainemakcoderus, definitely part of update that contains new browser ui11:45
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ikarussandsmark: just checked, QQuickWebView got changed so much that it only very indirectly references the engine and hence NAM11:48
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ikarusused to be that you could grab view->engine()11:50
ikarusbut nope that would be too useful11:51
coderusrainemak: icons are in update11 :D11:51
coderusrainemak: just last thing i need: is there latest xulrunner-qt5 package built?11:51
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coderusin nemo-mw-latest debug built, is there release one?11:52
sandsmarkikarus: I can see why, though, webkit is developed at a high pace, so having a lot of exposed hooks is time consuming11:52
rainemaksitu could have mer obs repository building latest release11:52
rainemaknot sure11:53
siturainemak: I have not build it in a while.11:53
rainemaksitu, aah ok11:53
ikarussandsmark: sure, but QML is supposed to be a first class citizen for Qt11:54
ikarusand it is feeling like the ghetto right now11:54
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ikarusalso not even the Experimental API seems to expose anything for this11:56
coderuslbt is for obs?12:00
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coderuscan i have date in "Changed" column, not just "about 1 month ago"?12:02
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coderussiteshwar is situ?12:15
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situcoderus: Right.12:32
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coderussitu: thanks :D12:39
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lbttbr: what time do you think we should aim to arrive at the restaurant ?12:54
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coderusrainemak: ping13:04
coderusstill same thing13:04
coderus/usr/bin/sailfish-browser: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/sailfish-browser: undefined symbol: _ZNK11QMozContext11initializedEv13:04
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rainemakcoderus, correct header/symbols in build target? QMozContext::initialized() is rather old13:07
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coderusrainemak: yes, installed qtmozembed-qt5-1.12.7-10.6.5.jolla.armv7hl with devel to sb2 and rebuild browser13:08
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Flexmanchem|st: hmm. maybe someone should port k9 to sailfish13:30
Flexmanshouldn't be too difficult to implent mail-alias in open source tough13:30
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chem|stFlexman: I hate that you need to install 3rd party apps to do mail properly!14:24
Flexmanchem|st: yep...14:24
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Flexmanwell it depends... in android there is no real difference if i use the standard app or K9. but in Sailfish OS tha would mean that I have to use an Android app instead of a native SailfishOS app.14:25
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chem|stFlexman: coming from N9* I want things like mail/messaging/services *unified - that is the most annoying part in android... everything is an app...14:29
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Flexmanchem|st: well, my first smartphone was with Palm OS. there it was called "program" like on a PC. Still it was a great system.14:36
Flexmanbut i don't understand that they always forget about mail identities. every provider offers like "1 mailbox with 10 alias adresses"14:37
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chem|stFlexman: identities, pgp, sent-folders... common missing features14:38
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Flexmanchem|st: jep...14:40
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Flexmanchem|st: or colored quotes in the mail editor14:41
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FlexmanFlexman: we get augmented reality apps, etc but it's too complicated to have mail identities and colored quotes14:50
Flexmanchem|st i mean14:50
daithefluanyone knows an opensource app for Sailfish that uses nemo keepalive ? I'd like to see an example of how it has to be implemented and how it works - Thanks :)14:51
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chem|stFlexman: +114:52
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skillz_Hi there - I had Google apps installed, and then my phone number changed.  Is there a way of removing and reinstalling them?15:11
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rainemakcoderus, thanks... try to give a look to tomorrow15:30
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rainemakcoderus, ok?15:31
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coderussure, why rush? :D15:33
coderusits same rozhkov PR, but comflicts resolved15:34
coderusit still looks ugly :D15:34
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coderusNew SailfishOS Browser Nightly build is on OpenRepos!
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tbrlbt: is it downtown or is it near the campus?19:02
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Nokius_coderus: :D19:05
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Nokiusyeah next weekend Brussels :D:D:D:D:D19:06
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locusfNokius: yeah see you there :)19:08
coderusNokius: ?19:09
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Nokiuswas dancing when my boss says I can have a day free :)19:09
Nokiuscoderus: thanks for the nightly19:10
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coderuscan you check it first?19:10
coderuspeoples complainig about errors19:10
coderussaying no sailfish-browser-settings, but it's definetly in repo :)19:10
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Nokiuscoderus: are you using a clone and obs to build after every push ?19:11
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coderusi'm building on laptop everything19:11
coderusnot using obs19:11
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kimmolimeh, all warnings of my build comes from libiphb.c ...19:12
coderusi like to compile everything myself19:12
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* kimmoli does both, locally for own use, obs for harbour19:13
coderusobs for harbour?19:13
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coderusoh, yes!19:14
kimmoli\o/ ?19:14
coderuswhat mean "obs for harbour"?19:14
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kimmolithe rpm i submit to harbour, are built in mer-obs19:14
coderuswhat the difference?19:15
Nokiusguess kimmoli use obs to build rpms for harbour19:15
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kimmolii just do it so... (and have possibility to blame someone else if they dont work)19:15
R-Zjust curious, im not a sailfish os user or anything, but does didint sailfish have unofficial whatsapp clients?19:15
R-Zmitäkuuluu for example19:16
Yanielthat was pretty much the one and only19:16
* Nokius mh may my Jolla is now a kind of a bastard device to much "fixed" stuff19:18
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R-Zandroid has few unofficial clients for whatsapp19:18
R-Zbut now whatsapp is starting to people who use them19:19
R-Zand they sent few dcma warnings to developers who worked on them19:19
Yanielthey have been banning mitakuuluu users for a long time19:19
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Nokiuscoderus: updating the 3 packages and then I'm ready to go19:20
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R-Zah, i havent yet got banned but ive already send angry emails to the whatsapp customer service19:21
R-Zjust wanted to hear is it like this with jolla since it doesnt even have a native client19:23
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coderusNokius: working?19:32
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Nokiushave the same issue as in the openrepos comments19:39
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coderuswill try at gf phone now :D19:43
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Nokiuslooks like sailfish-browser-settings is missing19:44
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coderusits definetly here :)19:44
* Nokius don't crash Miras phone 19:44
Nokiusmh can't start it via launcher via terminal works19:46
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coderusah got it19:46
coderusprobably problem in different maintainer19:47
Nokiushm still no new tap if I open a link e.g. Twittian19:48
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* Nokius I love this BROWSER! we is my Jolla tab oh wait19:49
coderus? :D19:50
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Nokiusokay has some bugs19:52
coderussure :)19:53
coderusit's pre release19:53
benna86hi everyone, I have a technical question on developing jolla apps: is it possible to force pkcon to ignore unsatisfied dependencies and install a required package? ideally I would have it done automatically during installation by the RPM19:53
Nokiushave to go sorry19:54
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coderusbenna86: only using rpm/zypper directly19:54
coderusyou cannot install package with unsatisfied dependencies automatically19:55
benna86unfortunately the package I "need" (it works without it as well) is neither on the official repo nor in openrepos... any idea?19:58
benna86can I make rpm think that another package is satisfying the dependency?19:59
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Nokius|jollacoderus: exedently i removed the browser than i installed  the settings and tada20:02
r0kk3rzbenna86: check mer obs20:02
Nokius|jollacoderus:  mhm any way  to fix the launch via ui?20:03
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benna86thanks, i'll have a look20:06
corecomicsalut, anyone knows how to get audio playback (using QMediaPlayer)  working in the sailfishos SDK?20:07
corecomicwhen trying to play an audio stream I allways get an error.., 'The QMediaPlayer object does not have a valid service'20:07
Nokius|jollacoderus: looks like xulrunner has a problem20:07
corecomicon the device it works just fine...20:07
coderusNokius|jolla: what you talking about?20:07
Nokius|jollai cant start the browser  via icon20:08
corecomicprobably missing codecs..?20:08
Nokius|jollacoderus: ^20:08
coderusNokius|jolla: rebbot if cant20:08
r0kk3rzor pulseaudio corecomic20:08
Nokius|jollacoderus: try to restart lipstick20:09
Yanielcorecomic: open the vm settings in virtualbox and enable soundcard there?20:10
Yanielemulator vm20:10
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corecomicYaniel: soundcard is enabled and system sounds do work, but no audio streams20:12
Nokius|jollacoderus: worked20:12
Nokius|jollacool the cover is fixed too20:13
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Nokius|jollamh but sometimes there's  no20:16
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* Nokius|jolla gn8 20:27
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corecomici.e. this: plays on the device but not on the emulator20:31
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M4rtinKany idea how to open a file browser from QML ? :)20:43
M4rtinKfor a path of course :-)20:44
M4rtinKany of the available ones will do, but I would like not to hardcode individual executable names20:44
YanielI don't think they are registered with xdg-open20:45
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coderusme too20:51
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ikarusIt has been asked many times before, but no one knows the exact packages you need to get rid of the [W] QPluginServiceProvider::requestService:383 - defaultServiceProvider::requestService(): no service found for - "org.qt-project.qt.mediaplayer"21:11
ikarusmessage in the emulator21:11
ikarusas many people before me have reported, it works fine on the actual device21:15
ikarusso some multimedia package is missing, but knowing which one would be useful21:16
coderusyou mean it working on device and not working in emulator or what?21:18
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coderusthere are no multimedia packages in emulator i think21:19
ikarusI think I have the needed requires21:19
ikarus  - qt5-qtmultimedia21:19
ikarus  - qt5-qtdeclarative-import-multimedia21:19
ikarus  - qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer21:19
ikarusBut that is not sufficient it seems21:19
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cornermanjetzt wollen die nen password21:38
cornermansorry wrong window :/21:38
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zetazhi. Anyone there knows a good howto for Github to OBS to Openrepo ?21:41
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zetazI am currently at the step where I am trying to give files I have in my github to the project I created in OBS...21:42
tbrzetaz: kimmoli's packages are quite good, with webhooks and all21:42
tbryou'll need to create a _service(?) file21:42
tbrlook at his stuff21:43
kimmoliuse eh script21:43
zetaztbr: hi ! So I have to search for this service file in kimmoli's github ? or in his OBS ?21:43
kimmolithis i made just moment ago
zetazkimmoli: which script ? osc ?21:44
zetazkimmoli: thanks !21:44
kimmoliwh is script that runs in mersdk (but i had hard time founding it, can't remember where i found it)21:44
kimmolithis might help too21:45
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* tbr had that url in paste buffer21:45
zetazkimmoli: tbr: Perfect !21:45
zetazexactly what I was looking for. I was not far from this page, but didn't found it yet21:46
zetazI can continue now21:46
r0kk3rzzetaz: i wrote a blog about it21:47
r0kk3rzdoesnt use the fancy wh script21:47
r0kk3rzbut works for me21:47
zetazr0kk3rz: can you give me your blog's address ?21:47
zetazr0kk3rz: thanks !21:48
kimmolifirst time: i just push tagged commit to github, add webhook in github, run wh script in mersdk, and it builds.21:48
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kimmoli...doesn't need a blog :)21:49
r0kk3rzideally no21:50
r0kk3rzbut i wrote it anyway21:50
kimmoliyeah, it works that way too21:50
kimmoliah, creating bugzilla account, setting up osc in mersdk before wh works was needed, before the really first time.21:50
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r0kk3rzyeah i set up osc in a different vm21:51
ikaruscoderus: so any list of mm packages the emu should have ?21:51
r0kk3rzand couldnt be bothered doing it again in mersdk21:51
* kimmoli goes back to sleep. was almost there when mqtt woke me21:51
r0kk3rzkimmoli: you mean i can write a script to ping you on irc and you'll never sleep?21:52
kimmolir0kk3rz: no. it will mute in 5 mins21:54
r0kk3rzhehe :)21:54
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coderusikarus: no idea, sorry. not using emulator and you shouldn't also :)22:09
coderusdo real things on real device22:09
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coderuseverything above disigning ui should be tested on real device22:10
zetazr0kk3rz: your blog post was perfect. It is running :22:18
zetaznot complicated, but without it I would have spent some time figuring everything out22:19
r0kk3rzyeah its really easy, but all that info was in various places, and peoples heads22:19
zetaznot I have to check the rpm works. And then pushing it to openrepos !22:19
zetazso the voicemail notification patch will be my first rpm contributed to jolla's community22:20
zetazby the way, thanks coderus for packaging it already 2 days ago !22:20
zetazIt was helpful to see how it looks like, before trying to do it myself22:21
r0kk3rzi should get around to learning how patch manager works22:21
zetazr0kk3rz: it is simple : you package in an rpm 2 files : the diff to apply, and a json describing the patch (maintainer name, details). When you install this rpm, it will copy the files to patch-manager directory.22:23
zetazThen in the settings, in the patch-manager page, it will list all the patchs availlable in its directory, and allow you to active them (==apply them) or not22:23
zetazAt least that is the theory. Still have to finish my first patch to be sure I didn't miss something....22:24
zetaz(never be too sure of something, it will haunt you back)22:25
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r0kk3rzif it breaks things, fix it22:27
r0kk3rzinstalling things from openrepos is not without its own risks22:28
zetazYes. But the main risk for my phone is me ;)22:29
r0kk3rzyeah thats fine though22:29
r0kk3rzyou break your own stuff you get to have the fun of fixing it22:29
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zetazyep. I think that is called "learning" ;)22:31
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zetazIt works !22:40
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artemmaFresh installation of SDK on Mac OSX. Qt Creator cannot connect to Mer SDK machine while I see it running in Virtual Box. Why?23:01
artemmaCould not connect to the "MerSDK" virtual machine. Do you want to try again?23:01
artemmaConnection error: 1 Connection refused23:02
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artemmathat is funny, mer machine starts and inside sdk in sailfish OS tab I can see web page coming from Mer yet something in Qt Creator fails to connect to mer23:14
artemmasame with emulator23:15
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coderusartemma: refused means bad keys23:21
coderusor 2222 port is already used23:21
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artemmatried replacing keys, didn;t help23:23
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artemmaand it seems like it's mer replying on localhost:222223:26
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artemmahmm, command line ssh gets rejected too, maybe it's still about keys23:27
artemmaartem-mac-2:~ artem$ ssh -p 2222 -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/engine/mersdk mersdk@localhost23:28
artemmassh: connect to host localhost port 2222: Connection refused23:28
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Hartziartemma: I had the same problem but I can't remember how I fixed it. It wasn't about they keys.23:46
artemmaHartzi: thanks. I am stuck so far23:51
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