| mal | at least those buttons are mapped https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/qtwayland/commit/931f48807dd9d8365bbcdfb6bfa3ccf515a064f7 not sure if the other layers have some support | 00:00 |
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| tom13 | ooh ty | 00:00 |
| tom13 | you want an xt894? | 00:02 |
| mal | I have enough devices and way too many other projects | 00:03 |
| tom13 | k | 00:03 |
| tom13 | can i help you with something | 00:04 |
| mal | probably not | 00:06 |
| tom13 | the food, beer and roof situation is ok then? | 00:06 |
| tom13 | i'll assume yes | 00:08 |
| mal | yes | 00:09 |
| tom13 | i think every maemo person should be on a droid 4 | 00:16 |
| tom13 | somehow this did not happen | 00:16 |
| tom13 | hmm yacy might be uncompromised websearch | 02:33 |
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| tom13 | oh someone got some progress with RetroArch | 09:28 |
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| lolek | hello, is there somwhere sailfish os 2.2.0.29 img so I can flash it? My X after update is stuck on the sony logo so I think I'll have to reflash it | 10:15 |
| tom13 | lolek: you didn't receive it when you purchased it? | 10:17 |
| lolek | I didn't purschase sialfish os yet | 10:17 |
| lolek | I've installed community version of sfos on the x | 10:17 |
| lolek | yesterday I've got option to upgrade which I did and after that phone i stuck on the white background with sony logo | 10:18 |
| tom13 | oh sorry i didn't know it was available | 10:18 |
| lolek | so I have to reflash it but I'd like to flash it to the latest version instead of using the previous one | 10:18 |
| tom13 | i understand | 10:18 |
| lolek | well I'll flash it back to the old sailfish and try to update again | 10:22 |
| lolek | and the same :/ | 10:43 |
| lolek | did flash with clean sailfish , then update to 2.2.0 phone did update, reboot, while bg with sony logo, then suddenly phone reboots, starts again and now it hangs on the white bg with sony logo | 10:44 |
| lolek | so it seems the update is somehow broken? | 10:44 |
| ol | Test message, please ignore. | 10:45 |
| lolek | tom13: ^^ | 10:49 |
| tom13 | what now | 10:50 |
| Trizt | does someone have an url to a working rescue image for jolla? | 10:59 |
| Trizt | and willing to share that one | 10:59 |
| lolek | tom13: well it's the same so it seems like the 2.2.0 is broken for me | 11:23 |
| tom13 | i'm sorry i don't know what to do | 11:24 |
| lolek | no problem | 11:25 |
| tom13 | my goal is android-free sailfish | 11:26 |
| eLtMosen | lolek, since you are using community port, i guess the porters have not yet approved to update to recent 2.2.0? Also if it is f5122 you got, the dual sim was added in 2.2.0 and interferes with former f5122 hack/adaption even on the official build. Just random thoughts tho | 11:28 |
| lolek | eLtMosen: I've got f5121 (single sim) | 11:28 |
| lolek | eLtMosen: and if update to 2.2.0 is not yet approved, why I'm getting notification to do this? | 11:30 |
| eLtMosen | That might be SFOS not beeing aware it is "just" a community edition. all i know is that updates did not work in the past and porters had to adapt first (somehow) | 11:30 |
| lolek | uhm ok | 11:31 |
| eLtMosen | But i am already telling slightly more than i exactly know so i'll stop :p | 11:31 |
| lolek | no prob | 11:31 |
| lolek | btw, do you maybe know if the camera button worked? | 11:32 |
| lolek | I mean that I've got now clean sfos and the camera button doesn't work in the camera app | 11:32 |
| eLtMosen | have no experience with sfos com. edeition. just guessing. sry | 11:32 |
| elros | lolek: don't know about xperia but camera button support is there since 2.1.3.7 iirc | 11:33 |
| lolek | erm so it seems it stopped working for me ugh | 11:33 |
| elros | install mce-tools and try evdev_trace -t to confirm it's not hw issue | 11:34 |
| lolek | elros: how toinstall? | 11:35 |
| elros | as root: zypper in mce-tools | 11:35 |
| lolek | Fatal error: mce-tools-1.87.0-1.8.2.armv7hl requires mce = 1.87.0-1.8.2, but this requirement cannot be provided | 11:36 |
| lolek | let's try with zypper | 11:36 |
| lolek | i have to downgrade mce | 11:37 |
| elros | better no | 11:37 |
| lolek | too late | 11:37 |
| elros | lol | 11:37 |
| lolek | the button is working properly | 11:38 |
| lolek | evdev_trace is showing the events | 11:38 |
| lolek | ok, how to revert the downgrade? | 11:38 |
| elros | what sfos version you have? on 2.1.3.7 mce-tools should be 1.90.4 | 11:38 |
| lolek | 2.1.2.3 | 11:39 |
| lolek | I'm doing zypper update | 11:39 |
| lolek | let's see what will happen | 11:39 |
| elros | lolek: few minutes ago I said support for button it's there since 2.1.3.7 ( > 2.1.2.3) | 11:40 |
| lolek | hm | 11:40 |
| lolek | right | 11:40 |
| lolek | but then how to get the 2.1.3.7? | 11:40 |
| lolek | zypper update will do this? | 11:40 |
| elros | I don't know nothing about xperia, can't you just install official image? It should be free of proprietary stuff | 11:42 |
| lolek | it's official | 11:42 |
| lolek | I mean | 11:43 |
| lolek | the only one I could get is the 2.1.2.3 | 11:43 |
| lolek | I don't know the download source for 2.1.3.7 | 11:43 |
| lolek | this is where I get the 2.1.2.3: http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/suzu/ | 11:44 |
| lolek | elros: well zypper update did finish and left my x in the same state as the update to 2.2.0 :D so I have to reflash it again :/ | 11:46 |
| lolek | ok I'll get back to 2.1.2.3 and try to find out how to get the 2.1.3.7 is possible at all | 11:47 |
| elros | lolek: so you if you use community version then join #sailfishos-porters | 11:49 |
| lolek | ok | 11:49 |
| eLtMosen | lolek, looks like the community port has been abondoned since there has been no update in the relevant post since early march. You could try to revive that thread with your questions: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=99875&page=35 | 11:50 |
| lolek | it seems they did move to xperia x compact, well I'm not surpised, the x is way too big | 11:51 |
| lolek | ok, time for mee see ya later, or tomorrow :) | 11:51 |
| eLtMosen | yepp, also putting the limited workforce into something that does not have an official version is quite logical imo | 11:52 |
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| tadzik | mad_soft: please don't use away messages :( | 12:41 |
| martonmiklos | Hi all | 12:55 |
| martonmiklos | I am trying to rebuild my transferengine plugin with the latest SDK | 12:55 |
| martonmiklos | but it says | 12:55 |
| martonmiklos | nemotransferengine-qt5 development package not found | 12:55 |
| martonmiklos | if I try to browse the package list in th QtCreator it shows up only the non devel package | 12:55 |
| tom13 | martonmiklos: transferengine would allow me to share a picture with an image site for e.g.? | 12:57 |
| tom13 | i have a site which i can upload-to via curl | 12:57 |
| martonmiklos | yes you can create such a plugin | 12:58 |
| martonmiklos | ATM I am working on a plugin which would allow to share contacts via SMS | 12:58 |
| tom13 | wow nice | 12:58 |
| tom13 | sharing sfos->sfos or sfos-> other OS as well | 12:59 |
| tom13 | ? | 12:59 |
| martonmiklos | SMS is SMS | 13:00 |
| martonmiklos | so any OS | 13:00 |
| martonmiklos | ah I cannot believe it | 13:00 |
| martonmiklos | http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2017-12-18.log.html | 13:00 |
| martonmiklos | I am facing with the same issue | 13:00 |
| martonmiklos | what i did a half year ago... | 13:00 |
| tom13 | that happens to me also | 13:00 |
| tom13 | maybe you can contact the SDK builder/maintainer | 13:01 |
| tom13 | where is this latest sdk martonmiklos ? | 13:01 |
| tom13 | i want to try building something | 13:01 |
| martonmiklos | tom13: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Application_SDK_Installation | 13:02 |
| tom13 | ty\ | 13:02 |
| tom13 | do you know how to skip the tutorial/intro after installing SFOS? | 13:04 |
| elros | press screen corner clockwise starting from top left | 13:07 |
| tom13 | ty elros ! | 14:06 |
| tom13 | o/ | 14:06 |
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| martonmiklos | hi all | 21:30 |
| martonmiklos | I am trying to send a message to a DBUS interface | 21:30 |
| martonmiklos | which accepts | 21:30 |
| martonmiklos | array of bytes | 21:30 |
| martonmiklos | how the heck should I do this? | 21:31 |
| martonmiklos | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/ofono/blob/master/ofono/doc/smartmessaging-api.txt | 21:31 |
| martonmiklos | object SendBusinessCard(string to, array{bytes} card) | 21:31 |
| martonmiklos | if I pass a string as a second arg | 21:31 |
| martonmiklos | it says | 21:31 |
| martonmiklos | string "Method "SendBusinessCard" with signature "ss" on interface "org.ofono.SmartMessaging" doesn't exist | 21:31 |
| martonmiklos | if I create an array of ints | 21:32 |
| martonmiklos | the it says string "Method "SendBusinessCard" with signature "sav" on interface "org.ofono.SmartMessaging" doesn't exist | 21:32 |
| martonmiklos | yeah I have forgotten to mention that I am trying it from QML | 21:32 |
| martonmiklos | via the org.nemomobile.dbus | 21:32 |
| monich | martonmiklos: right, it's not "ss" or "sav", it's "say" | 21:35 |
| martonmiklos | ss means string string | 21:36 |
| martonmiklos | sav means string, variant | 21:36 |
| martonmiklos | say means string, ? | 21:36 |
| monich | "say" means string + array of bytes | 21:36 |
| martonmiklos | okay but there is no byte type in QML/javascript afaik | 21:36 |
| martonmiklos | so shall I cast it to Number I think? | 21:37 |
| monich | I would just write some native code | 21:37 |
| martonmiklos | yeah | 21:38 |
| martonmiklos | I have just tried to cast all elements of the array argument to Number() | 21:39 |
| martonmiklos | result: | 21:39 |
| martonmiklos | error time=1528666675.870789 sender=:1.5 -> destination=:1.568 error_name=org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod reply_serial=360 string "Method "SendBusinessCard" with signature "sav" on interface "org.ofono.SmartMessaging" doesn't exist | 21:39 |
| martonmiklos | ah I always feel this "teaching the pig fly" effect when I came across the QML | 21:41 |
| martonmiklos | hmm we have a typedCall function | 21:46 |
| monich | martonmiklos: byte arrays seem to be supported but in incredibly inefficient way: | 21:46 |
| monich | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/nemo-qml-plugin-dbus/blob/master/src/plugin/declarativedbusinterface.cpp#L402 | 21:46 |
| monich | I would really really really recommend to do this kind of stuff from the native code | 21:47 |
| martonmiklos | well yeah | 21:47 |
| martonmiklos | atm I am not even really sure that I want to go down this way | 21:48 |
| martonmiklos | I mean | 21:48 |
| martonmiklos | I am working on an SMS share plugin | 21:48 |
| martonmiklos | and there is a method from the Nokia times which is capable to send a vCard via SMS | 21:48 |
| martonmiklos | and I am not 100%ly sure that it is working on Android for e.g. | 21:49 |
| monich | I would give at least 80% probability that it would work | 21:49 |
| monich | maybe even 85% | 21:50 |
| monich | except that in order to do it right (leave a trace in the messaging history) | 21:50 |
| monich | it has to go through commhistory daemon | 21:51 |
| monich | which maintains the database | 21:51 |
| monich | but just to send it, a dbus call to ofono should be enough | 21:52 |
| martonmiklos | well I managed to get it working | 21:54 |
| martonmiklos | I have just sent a vCARD to myself haha | 21:54 |
| monich | and it worked? | 21:54 |
| martonmiklos | I will try out with different phones tomorrow | 21:54 |
| martonmiklos | yes | 21:54 |
| monich | nice | 21:54 |
| martonmiklos | it worked | 21:54 |
| martonmiklos | I still would like to add a plain text option | 21:55 |
| monich | another thing is that at some point "SendBusinessCard" handler may start checking permissions | 21:55 |
| monich | and refuse to accept calls from non-privileged processes | 21:56 |
| martonmiklos | ah | 21:56 |
| monich | because it's kind of a security hole - any process may silently send tons of sms or mms | 21:57 |
| monich | by getting around commhistoryd | 21:57 |
| martonmiklos | well I do not know if there are any plans to accept contributions to the official transferengine plugins | 21:57 |
| monich | if you do it right (via commhitoryd) - why not | 21:58 |
| monich | I would vote for that | 21:58 |
| martonmiklos | we have started a discussion with Andrew here: | 21:59 |
| martonmiklos | https://github.com/martonmiklos/harbour-sms-share-plugin/issues/1 | 21:59 |
| monich | since I have commiter rights in that area my vote does count :) | 21:59 |
| martonmiklos | the Smartmessaging idea came from him :) | 21:59 |
| martonmiklos | so what do you think about implementing the SMS sending the same manner as the MMS is implemented? | 22:00 |
| monich | since I'm the one who did mms... | 22:01 |
| monich | it would be strange it I refused this kind approach :) | 22:02 |
| monich | yes, there's no need to get telepathy-ring involved | 22:02 |
| monich | just sharing plugin -> commhistoryd (updates the database) -> ofono | 22:02 |
| martonmiklos | okay | 22:03 |
| martonmiklos | so the share plugin -> commhistoryd call sould be a dbus interface similar to the MMSHelper? | 22:04 |
| monich | it's going to be much simpler than that | 22:07 |
| monich | this MmsHandler thing is a bit confusing | 22:07 |
| martonmiklos | I have a feeling that I have missed something | 22:07 |
| martonmiklos | the commhistoryd has a QML interface I assume | 22:08 |
| monich | no, it's a daemon maintaining the messaging database | 22:08 |
| martonmiklos | sorry I wanted to say commhistory | 22:09 |
| martonmiklos | import org.nemomobile.commhistory 1.0 | 22:09 |
| monich | ah, that thing | 22:09 |
| martonmiklos | I appologize if I misunderstood something, but I am kind of newbie in this area (both QML and this messaging stuff) | 22:10 |
| monich | it's a bunch of models which provide a view to the commhistory db | 22:10 |
| monich | but I doubt they actually update the database | 22:11 |
| martonmiklos | ah I see so there won't be able to send an SMS from there | 22:11 |
| monich | oh man, iot | 22:11 |
| monich | oh man, it's been a while | 22:12 |
| martonmiklos | yeah | 22:12 |
| monich | since I last time looked at that | 22:12 |
| monich | sms involve another thing called telepathy-ring | 22:12 |
| monich | and that's yet another can of worms | 22:13 |
| monich | ignore it for now, you shouldn't need it | 22:13 |
| martonmiklos | okay | 22:13 |
| monich | and regarding MmsHandler | 22:13 |
| martonmiklos | yepp | 22:13 |
| monich | it's original purpose was to accept calls from mms-engine | 22:14 |
| martonmiklos | I see | 22:14 |
| monich | when mms is arriving, download progress etc. | 22:14 |
| monich | but | 22:14 |
| martonmiklos | someone abused it :D | 22:14 |
| monich | yes :) | 22:14 |
| martonmiklos | okay | 22:14 |
| monich | and the calls that send mms were added there as well | 22:15 |
| martonmiklos | so what is your recommentation on the implementation | 22:15 |
| monich | I would start with d-bus object to commhistory implementing, say "org.nemomobile.SmartMessaging" interface | 22:17 |
| monich | which would be much like "org.ofono.SmartMessaging" | 22:17 |
| monich | kind of a proxy | 22:17 |
| martonmiklos | got it | 22:17 |
| monich | it would update the database (storing the attachment in a way similar to what mms does) | 22:18 |
| monich | and then call ofono to actually send it | 22:18 |
| monich | and a transfer engine plugin of course | 22:18 |
| monich | and then see how it goes | 22:19 |
| martonmiklos | okay | 22:20 |
| martonmiklos | the Smartmessaging is standard for sharing a complete vCard via SMS(s) | 22:20 |
| martonmiklos | form the Nokia I think | 22:20 |
| monich | yes, I believe it was a nokia extension | 22:21 |
| martonmiklos | I have just tried to send a couple contacts | 22:21 |
| martonmiklos | and they have showed up big vCARDs | 22:21 |
| martonmiklos | because the "contact binding" | 22:21 |
| martonmiklos | you know if you have a google account for e.g. | 22:22 |
| martonmiklos | every contact in that list will get an image, gtalk ID, etc. | 22:22 |
| monich | ouch | 22:22 |
| martonmiklos | so | 22:22 |
| martonmiklos | from the customer perspective | 22:22 |
| martonmiklos | I think most users would be more happy if we would implement the "plaintext" sharing | 22:23 |
| martonmiklos | -- Android has this option too -- | 22:23 |
| martonmiklos | it is guaranteed to work with any GSM device | 22:23 |
| monich | in that case it may be even easier | 22:24 |
| martonmiklos | so after playing a bit with the SmartMessaging | 22:24 |
| martonmiklos | I would rather focus on the plaintext | 22:24 |
| martonmiklos | listening :) | 22:24 |
| monich | but even in that case it would be nice to show vcards in the messaging history as vcards | 22:25 |
| martonmiklos | well I do not think so | 22:25 |
| martonmiklos | if we would save the SMS as a text | 22:25 |
| martonmiklos | that would be the best | 22:25 |
| martonmiklos | I think | 22:26 |
| monich | well, try it | 22:26 |
| martonmiklos | so in this case I would only need a proper interface for SMS sending | 22:26 |
| monich | check out sms sharing plugin | 22:27 |
| martonmiklos | MMS :D | 22:27 |
| martonmiklos | I mean you wanted to say MMS? | 22:28 |
| monich | right | 22:28 |
| martonmiklos | it receieves a vCARD | 22:29 |
| monich | there's no sms sharing plugin yet :) | 22:29 |
| martonmiklos | it is :D | 22:29 |
| martonmiklos | https://github.com/martonmiklos/harbour-sms-share-plugin | 22:29 |
| martonmiklos | (just kidding) | 22:29 |
| martonmiklos | so it receieves a vCARD which needs to be parsed | 22:29 |
| martonmiklos | or we need to retrive the contact details from the contacts database according to the vCard | 22:31 |
| martonmiklos | I am unsure which is the more elegant | 22:31 |
| monich | everything can be done in so many different ways | 22:32 |
| martonmiklos | okay | 22:33 |
| martonmiklos | let's take into account that one of the goals is to upstream this one day | 22:33 |
| martonmiklos | the fact that the plugin will receieve a vcard is given | 22:34 |
| martonmiklos | we could parse that in QML/javascript | 22:34 |
| martonmiklos | or in native code | 22:34 |
| martonmiklos | well it is getting late here | 22:39 |
| martonmiklos | monich: thank you for all the information | 22:39 |
| martonmiklos | and your time | 22:39 |
| martonmiklos | I will get back to this topic at an another time | 22:40 |
| martonmiklos | but I need to get some sleep now :) | 22:40 |
| monich | cheers! | 22:40 |
| martonmiklos | o/ | 22:40 |
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