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emilson | is there source code available to the UI in sailfish? | 08:25 |
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emilson | could it possibly help advance other wayland compositors in GNU/Linux world? | 08:26 |
r0kk3rz | the compositor code is open, the ux layer isnt | 08:27 |
tbr | cf nemomobile | 08:30 |
r0kk3rz | yeah that too | 08:32 |
emilson | i see | 08:32 |
r0kk3rz | we dont even use the latest wayland code yet, so im not sure id expect the sfos compositor code to be state of the art | 08:33 |
emilson | lipstick? that's the compositor in sailfish? https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/lipstick | 08:37 |
r0kk3rz | yup | 08:37 |
r0kk3rz | also used in nemomobile and asteroid os | 08:38 |
emilson | I'm researching wayland related projects, just trying to answer my own questions, trying to figure why there's so much fragmentation, X11 at least kept things cohesive among multiple WM, while wayland is all over the place, each compositor is duplicated effort. Wayland protocol quickly versioned past 1.0 without even providing necessary features to make typical DE usable | 08:41 |
r0kk3rz | sailfish was a very early adopter of wayland | 08:43 |
emilson | at least SirCmpwn's sway and wlroots have been received plenty of effort and making advanced in GNU/Linux desktop, but tiling WM doesn't suit most of the workflows | 08:43 |
r0kk3rz | tbh x11 was cohesive because nobody understood it | 08:47 |
r0kk3rz | fragmentation and competing implementations is the open source way | 08:48 |
tbr | also x11 and all its extensions are rather byzantine | 08:48 |
tbr | one major plus of wayland is that it can use low level graphics drivers and doesn't require massive modifications | 08:49 |
tango_ | r0kk3rz: well, when x11 was born there were competing implementations | 08:57 |
tango_ | also, the WM coesiveness came from the ICCCM rather than x11 proper | 08:58 |
tango_ | and at the same time the icccm is one of the reaons why some things in x11 can't be fixed security-wise | 08:58 |
_sven | someone familiar with bluetooth and the /var/lib/bluetooth/<device id>/info file? There is a Service key/code. I need some information about what key/code is exactly for which service like SSP, HSP, A2DP, AVRCP, HFP, PBAP, MAP and so one. | 12:25 |
_sven | i had problems getting my Sony MDR-ZX750BN BT Headset to work on X for phone calls. I heard the ringtone but after hook up the sound was off on headset. | 12:33 |
_sven | today i just tried to copy the line with the service key/code from BT info file from my car BT device to the Sony Headset BT file and now the Sony headset work for phonecalls too. Seems some special key is needed to get phonecalls to work on any headset, i want to know which of the codes exactly i need. | 12:37 |
Ljocht | Well, I still have not managed to upgrade to 3.0.0.5. I can't get around the error "Aborted by user" | 18:47 |
mal | did you try to 3.0.0.8? | 18:49 |
master_of_master | Hi, I've started yesterday the update to the latest Sailfish version on my Jolla 1 phone. But since then the phone is hanging in the boot screen. | 18:49 |
mal | master_of_master: you mean it won't boot anymore? | 18:50 |
master_of_master | I haven't tried to reset it | 18:50 |
mal | master_of_master: did you update via ui or commandline? | 18:51 |
master_of_master | via the UI | 18:52 |
mal | and now it's stuck in boot logo? | 18:52 |
master_of_master | yes | 18:52 |
master_of_master | "SAILFISH OS" | 18:52 |
mal | can you ssh into the device? | 18:53 |
master_of_master | haven't tried it. And I don't know if it is connected to the wifi currently | 18:55 |
caitlin | your router should know | 19:12 |
r0kk3rz | just reset it | 19:13 |
Ljocht | mal: I can't upgrade to 3.0.0.8 too. Error: Installation aborted by user | 19:15 |
mal | Ljocht: could you show journalctl output when you try to run an update | 19:17 |
mal | r0kk3rz: wondering if zypper dup could work differently than version --dup | 19:18 |
r0kk3rz | possibly | 19:18 |
r0kk3rz | but arent they both just wrapping packagekit? | 19:18 |
mal | r0kk3rz: I should packagekit is wrapper for zypper | 19:19 |
mal | or libzypp | 19:19 |
r0kk3rz | however its structured yeah | 19:19 |
mal | r0kk3rz: https://github.com/hughsie/PackageKit/tree/master/backends/zypp | 19:20 |
mal | Ljocht: are you able to install zypper? using pkcon install zypper | 19:21 |
Ljocht | Nope, I can't do it. | 19:21 |
Ljocht | mal: I don't know how to show you journalctl, because in -f it shows nothing | 19:24 |
r0kk3rz | devel-su | 19:25 |
mal | yes and use journalctl -n10000 or something to show more | 19:25 |
Ljocht | https://pastebin.com/ifC657s0 | 19:51 |
master_of_master | mal: I've checked it. The device is not in the Wifi | 19:51 |
caitlin | :( | 19:53 |
mal | master_of_master: can you get update log from recovery? | 19:54 |
Ljocht | https://pastebin.com/i8EDaxEn only errors | 19:56 |
mal | I meant the update log, from /var/log/systemupdate.log | 19:58 |
Ljocht | ui update show me 100 percent, and after this nothing. I press on and it show me press to reboot. Here update log https://pastebin.com/V48rZJfg | 20:08 |
FlyingAntero | Just a quick question. Should there be fingerprint lock option on Xperia XA2 (SF 3.0.0.8 Trial)? I can't find it from settings... | 20:13 |
mal | it's not supported yet, check list here https://together.jolla.com/question/191509/release-notes-300-lemmenjoki/#191509-known-issues-specific-to-xperia-xa2 | 20:14 |
mal | actually that list is missing it, anyway it's not supported yet | 20:15 |
FlyingAntero | Ok, thanks. I checked that list earlier so that why I was little bit confused. | 20:16 |
_sven | mal: any idea how i can fix this Error: pattern:jolla-configuration-geminipda-0.2+master.20180831075105.2.g2ffe4a3-1.8.2.jolla.noarch requires pattern:jolla-hw-adaptation-geminipda, but this requirement cannot be provided, i have this error since update to 3.0.0.5 on my gemini | 20:21 |
_sven | mal: tried to update with version --dup | 20:25 |
mal | _sven: show output of ssu lr | 20:32 |
_sven | mal: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/FRnJFTcWDy/ i just tested zypper ref && zypper up which seems to fix something. now i have normal menus (were empty till yesterday since update) | 20:38 |
mal | _sven: btw, it's 3.0.0.8 ot 3.0.0.5 | 20:40 |
mal | it seems in that paste you had it correct | 20:40 |
_sven | mal: is there a cachefile or something i have to delete or which i can change to get it to work? | 20:54 |
_sven | mal: this is from my /usr/share/ssu/features.d/ files https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/wPMKzGZHgp/ | 21:03 |
Ljocht | Well, I think tomorrow I'm start factory reset | 21:05 |
mal | _sven: I'm testing updating my gemini to 3.0.0.8, we'll see how that goes | 21:22 |
_sven | mal: i have this problem since 3.0.0.5 | 21:24 |
r0kk3rz | for those keyboard warriors, terminal with tabs! | 22:12 |
r0kk3rz | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:r0kk3rz/literm | 22:12 |
r0kk3rz | ctrl+t to add a new tab | 22:13 |
r0kk3rz | ctrl+[0-9] to switch tabs | 22:13 |
mal | _sven: I managed to update to 3.0.0.8, maybe it helped that I triggered a rebuild in devel repo | 22:14 |
caitlin | i wonder when the xa2 images are coming back, i guess next week since 9-5 | 22:53 |
mal | yes, it's weekend so probably next week | 22:55 |
mal | and since the fix is known it shouldn't take very long but like every change it still requires testing | 22:56 |
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