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_sven | r0kk3rz: how can i use F1-F10 keys in literm? | 10:08 |
r0kk3rz | umm | 10:09 |
r0kk3rz | no idea | 10:09 |
r0kk3rz | what for? | 10:09 |
_sven | r0kk3rz: change sort order in htop | 10:11 |
_sven | F4 usually | 10:11 |
r0kk3rz | ah ok | 10:11 |
r0kk3rz | i think that should work... but maybe it doesnt | 10:12 |
_sven | oh F4 is Filter, F6 is Sort | 10:13 |
_sven | something drains my battery on gemini, 50% CPU at idle and an empty battery over night | 10:14 |
r0kk3rz | as in literm does? | 10:15 |
r0kk3rz | maybe it needs to be rebranded to heavyterm | 10:15 |
r0kk3rz | theres probably fixes in the desktop ui side i can merge across | 10:15 |
_sven | has nothing to do with literm | 10:15 |
r0kk3rz | oh ok, thats good to know :) | 10:16 |
_sven | its since update to 3.0.0.8, maybe the wifi connman plugin again that makes trouble | 10:16 |
tango_ | for a while now, I've been unable to access the google account via xmpp | 11:30 |
tango_ | it has been blocked once as insecure by google, but even after I've told google to accept it anyway, it fails | 11:31 |
tango_ | is there a way to debug the issue? sailfish os itself gives no message about the connection failure | 11:31 |
r0kk3rz | didnt they deprecate that years ago? | 11:34 |
Coolgeek | I still connect it | 11:49 |
Coolgeek | tango_: you can make some special code for this on google. I use this code to login via xmpp and it doesn't botherme anymore | 11:49 |
Coolgeek | https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en | 11:50 |
tango_ | Coolgeek: ah, interesting | 11:53 |
tango_ | Coolgeek: The setting you are looking for is not available for your account. | 11:53 |
tango_ | wtf | 11:53 |
Coolgeek | :( | 11:54 |
Coolgeek | can't help you if google don't want you to do it | 11:55 |
tango_ | thanks anyway 8-) | 11:56 |
muppeth | hi there. Any experience with caldav sync to nextcloud. I started using sialfish on my phone (fairphone) an di noticed today my phone deleted all calendar entries. It must be it, as i remember in the past when i owned jolla1 it occasionally did the same. | 13:08 |
muppeth | is this normal/reported/documented issue? is sailfish03 fixing any of those shortcommings? | 13:09 |
leszek | muppeth: I am using caldav and carddav since years on my Sailfish devices. Never had that issue | 13:13 |
leszek | so its working fine for me. But I know that carddav stuff has been worked on and I think improvemnets should land | 13:14 |
muppeth | leszek, i had a flashback as this issue was one of the things that made me throw my jolla into the drawer in th efirst place. | 13:16 |
muppeth | I need to check, since i used jolla1 yesterday too to check some stuff, if i had calendars setup on it. that could be the reason (two devices) but if thats not the case its hard to use the phone that will wipe all your perosnal and proffesional appoitments at random (also the ones i shared with other people) | 13:18 |
muppeth | found this: https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugin-caldav/issues/45 | 13:18 |
muppeth | but that isn't very optimistic | 13:18 |
leszek | I am also using multiple devices and never had that issue. Must be some special scenario where that happens | 13:18 |
muppeth | do you sync to nextcloud caldav? | 13:19 |
leszek | yeah | 13:20 |
leszek | when I create a new appointment with sailfishos it is synced to nextcloud and from there to all my other devices | 13:20 |
muppeth | hmmm... only calndars that were shared with me stayed (thank god) | 13:20 |
tadzik | muppeth: my only issue with caldav and disappearing calendars was them disappearing from device occasionally | 13:49 |
tadzik | and more often just duplicating endlessly, seemingly every time the SSL cert was rotated | 13:50 |
tadzik | so over few months I'd end up with 3 or 4 identical calendar entries for everything | 13:50 |
fledermaus | I used to have the duplicated calendars problem but it went away pre 3.x | 14:03 |
fledermaus | was a bug in the underlying caldav library from Qt iirc | 14:03 |
tadzik | ah, good to know | 14:17 |
_sven | is it possible to use a TTL/UART converter on gemini? | 15:48 |
r0kk3rz | a usb one? | 15:56 |
r0kk3rz | dont see why not | 15:56 |
_sven | yes | 15:56 |
_sven | on linux it's visible as /dev/ttyUSB0, but i can't find it on gemini | 15:57 |
_sven | and there is no lsusb on gemini | 15:57 |
r0kk3rz | check dmesg when its connected | 15:57 |
_sven | Gemini kernel: [upmu_is_chr_det] Charger exist but USB is host, this is from journalctl | 16:00 |
r0kk3rz | it does to usb-ota right? | 16:00 |
r0kk3rz | *do | 16:00 |
_sven | yes | 16:00 |
_sven | there's a bit more https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/6rTmv53Jx7/ | 16:02 |
FlyingAntero | Hello! Does anyone know if I need to flash new Sailfish X image after commercial features are ready? Or can I just install features from Jolla app store after I have purchased the license? I am currently running Sailfish X Trial on XA2. I didn't get answer from Jolla. | 17:17 |
leszek | FlyingAntero: All that I know (and if you've taken a look in my install howto video for the XA2) you don't have to reflash after getting the license. The commercial features will appear in the Jolla Store for you to install | 17:20 |
FlyingAntero | Yeah, I have installed full Sailfish X to Xperia X. That time I indeed installed commercial features from Jolla app store. I am just wondering that is the prosedure same with Trial? | 17:23 |
FlyingAntero | I mean after I have purchased the lisence of course. | 17:26 |
r0kk3rz | pretty sure it says that on the web page, or at least it did | 17:51 |
FlyingAntero | In the Shop there is written "You can start your Sailfish OS trial with these devices already now with the Sailfish X Free version, and purchase and install the commercial components easily later." What does the "install" actually mean here? Installing via flashing the image or from app store? | 18:18 |
mal | FlyingAntero: it says install easily later, which to me doesn't sound like reflashing, pretty sure those will be just installed from store | 18:38 |
FlyingAntero | OK, I was thinking that also. Thank for the response. | 18:39 |
_sven | mal: r0kk3rz: do we have kernel support for uart/serial devices in sailfish? | 18:48 |
caitlin | what fun, stuck on the xperia screen | 18:56 |
leszek | caitlin: after flashing SailfishOS on the XA2? | 18:59 |
caitlin | nope, before | 19:02 |
caitlin | i get this now | 19:02 |
caitlin | target didn't report max-download-size | 19:02 |
caitlin | sending 'boot_a' (17772 KB)... | 19:02 |
caitlin | FAILED (remote: Requested download size is more than max allowed) | 19:02 |
caitlin | IMPORTANT NOTE: Detach the USB cable, restart the device and let it boot up to Android UI – Please go through the startup wizard before turning the device off again. | 19:02 |
caitlin | conflicts with | 19:03 |
caitlin | NOTE: If your device is still connected and the blue LED lit from step 4.7 it is ok to keep it that way and skip to step 6.5 below. | 19:03 |
mal | _sven: what do you mean? | 19:03 |
mal | caitlin: are you using usb3 port on you computer? if yes try usb2 | 19:04 |
caitlin | would it work through a hub? i only have 2 usb ports and i suspect both are usb3 | 19:05 |
caitlin | other port does the same | 19:05 |
mal | there is also another way | 19:05 |
mal | lspci -nn | grep USB | cut -d '[' -f3 | cut -d ']' -f1 | xargs -I@ sudo setpci -H1 -d @ d0.l=0 | 19:05 |
mal | as root | 19:05 |
mal | :D | 19:06 |
mal | that forces the port to usb2 | 19:06 |
caitlin | and how to you jam it back? | 19:06 |
caitlin | i don't really want to brick a laptop whilst bricking a phone | 19:06 |
mal | this resets it back to usb3 | 19:06 |
mal | lspci -nn | grep USB | cut -d '[' -f3 | cut -d ']' -f1 | xargs -I@ sudo setpci -H1 -d @ d0.l=1 | 19:06 |
_sven | mal: i try to use a CP2102 USB TTL/UART converter on gemini. When i plugin the device, i can see /dev/bus/usb/003/001 and /dev/bus/usb/002/001 and 002, but there is no /dev/ttyUSB0 device. i don't know how to access the usb device | 19:07 |
mal | so run sudo su | 19:07 |
caitlin | it's a good job i know some IT or that command would be terrifying, actually it remains terrifying | 19:07 |
mal | caitlin: that is copied directly from jolla zendesk linked here https://together.jolla.com/question/193348/xa2-flashing-issues/?answer=193480#post-id-193480 | 19:08 |
caitlin | it still fails :/ | 19:08 |
mal | caitlin: the commans worked without error? | 19:08 |
mal | *command | 19:08 |
mal | which fastboot version? | 19:08 |
caitlin | yep | 19:08 |
caitlin | fastboot version 1:7.0.0+r33-2 | 19:09 |
caitlin | it unlocked the bootloader fine | 19:09 |
mal | check the output of lspci -nn | grep USB | 19:09 |
mal | I remember seeing such an error | 19:09 |
caitlin | 00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller [8086:9d2f] (rev 21) | 19:09 |
caitlin | it's a dell xps 13 fwiw | 19:10 |
mal | I have the same fastboot version and it worked for me, so I think it's the port or cable that is causing issues | 19:10 |
caitlin | it's the cable that came with the phone | 19:10 |
caitlin | i could try it the other way up, it is usb-c :P | 19:10 |
mal | _sven: not sure if gemini kernel has the uart stuff enabled, I enabled those in fp2 https://github.com/mlehtima/android_kernel_fairphone_fp2/commit/a66eb62cb5d86b6d18cd6297a2daf53e5ea41123 | 19:11 |
caitlin | does it matter that i logout of root after running the command? | 19:11 |
mal | you should logout from root based on the instructions | 19:12 |
mal | caitlin: if you have some usb2 hub you can try that | 19:12 |
caitlin | well huzzah, brb | 19:15 |
caitlin | same, but the hub i have has blue holes, which may still be usb3 | 19:17 |
mal | you don't happen to have windows dual-boot or something? | 19:18 |
caitlin | yeh, i've got a windows machine somewhere for mucking about in my car ecu, i could try that, but i'm not terribly confident with windows | 19:19 |
caitlin | i guess i can follow destructions | 19:19 |
caitlin | tomorrow for that, though | 19:19 |
Etua | I've got a question to all Sailfish OS users. How would you persuade quite tech savy Android user to switch. What are main selling points? UI or something else? | 19:21 |
Etua | I use Lineage OS with no GAPPS so lack of these services is no problem for me, however I don't think I could replace every app I need with Sailfish native one, also quite don't like the thing about camera quality drop so what are the advantages? | 19:23 |
caitlin | does 17772 KB sound wrong? | 19:24 |
tadzik | Etua: it's an upgrade if you're not a google fan | 19:24 |
tadzik | (imho) | 19:24 |
tadzik | I find the UI and the overall UX superior, though I always hated android, so YMMV if you actually use it and like it | 19:25 |
mal | caitlin: that size seems ok | 19:25 |
tadzik | I still use some android apps where the native ones are lacking | 19:25 |
caitlin | i found another usb hub which is totally not usb3 but the sam | 19:26 |
caitlin | i don't have a usbc to usbc cable so i can't try that... another OS it will have to be | 19:26 |
Etua | tadzik: I quite like that side, however I'm not sure whether I'd be eager to pay 50 Euro for Sailfish OS if eg. Sony, Samsung or another major company started selling Android phones will no GAPPS preinstalled. Sailfish 3 is out and currently I don't have any device which could handle free version and unfortunately there is not much fresh insight info available, that's why I ask this question here. | 19:29 |
tadzik | Etua: myself I quite like sailfish in terms of its UI choices if nothing else. I'd like to see it succeed. I have no warm thoughts towards android whatsoever, all of my experiences with it have been purely negative | 19:31 |
tadzik | I root for the alternatives then :) | 19:31 |
Etua | tadzik: I would not consider myself as fan of Android interface, but since ~5.0 I like it yet I don't know the alternatives really. What is the recent pace of UI developement? How would would you see a difference between current state of your system compared to that from last year? | 19:40 |
tadzik | Etua: oh, the difference is quite massive indeed | 19:41 |
tadzik | some people complain that it's looking a bit more like android now (in terms of the top menu), but I welcome a good change no matter what it's inspired by | 19:41 |
tadzik | there's still some features that I consider to be absolutely basic that are still missing | 19:41 |
tadzik | like choosing a default browser, especially on a system where the default one sucks ass | 19:42 |
tadzik | sailfish never fails to disappoint on things that I'd take for granted in android/ios, but it's not all doom and gloom, there's definitely a change for the better | 19:42 |
schmittlauch[m] | Uhm, so what arevthe changes in the 3.0.0.8 update? Landscape menu fix, something else? | 19:47 |
r0kk3rz | Etua: imo the main selling point it 'its more linux' | 19:47 |
fledermaus | https://together.jolla.com/question/191507/changelog-300-lemmenjoki/#191507-sailfish-browser | 19:47 |
Etua | tadzik: Are there Android apps that do not work on Sailfish depsite not being dependent on GPlay services or another external framework? | 19:48 |
fledermaus | well, not just the browser bit | 19:48 |
tadzik | Etua: stuff using bluetooth for example won't work | 19:48 |
tadzik | or VPN apps | 19:48 |
tadzik | then there's things that just require Android APIs that sailfish doesn't (yet) implement | 19:48 |
tadzik | if you have something you're curious about, I can check it out for you | 19:49 |
Etua | Can promised API update from 4.4.4 to 8.1 fix it or Sailfish just does not implement everything? | 19:50 |
tadzik | hard to say until we see it | 19:51 |
tadzik | Etua: and while we're on it, are you any apps you notoriously miss on a de-googled android phone? | 19:52 |
tadzik | s/you/there/ | 19:52 |
tadzik | something hard to find replacements (or good replacements) for? | 19:52 |
Etua | Thank you, currently I'm just trying to check what might not work because I would not like to send you my whole app library for checking, just these that might be problematic. | 19:53 |
tadzik | right | 19:53 |
r0kk3rz | buy an XA2, if sailfish doesnt suit your need you can always put android back on it | 19:53 |
tadzik | r0kk3rz: do you not lose any drm-ish features on xa2? | 19:54 |
r0kk3rz | you do | 19:54 |
r0kk3rz | theres hacky ways around that, but if you want to de googlify the phone anyway | 19:54 |
Etua | There are a few apps that just require Google Maps and in such case I would need to install Micro-G to fully use them like bike-sharing app, fortunately there are not so many of them and some workarounds can be used. To check bikes I use app from F-Droid and an official one just to rent them. Also I found public transport app that lets you choose map provider so I can use OSM. | 19:57 |
tadzik | Etua: ah, I have a public bikes app that requires gmaps too, but it works fine if I just never look at the map itself :P | 20:00 |
tadzik | (and there's a native sailfish app for the public bikes) | 20:00 |
tadzik | (well, the map part) | 20:00 |
Etua | The one I was surprised about was PhotoMath as it used to work for a long time until one update which frankly didn't add antyhing special at least from the user's perspective. But my case is a bit different, because for most of the part I use apps from F-Droid and they can't require GAPPS by definition. For regular user loosing GAPPS could well be worse. | 20:00 |
tadzik | for a lot of things I just use the webapps instead of the android apps | 20:01 |
tadzik | Uber for example has a fairly functional mobile website | 20:01 |
Etua | I also try to stick to using my browser in the first place. A concept of each major website/service having it's own apps for things that can be achieved without it is just broken. | 20:02 |
tadzik | fully agreed | 20:02 |
Etua | I had to uninstall city council app for reporting problems like broken street lamps etc. and go back to calling them directly, because you can't send a report without marking loacation on G Maps. | 20:04 |
Etua | Speaking about that: can Andorid apps use GPS on Sailfish? | 20:04 |
tadzik | yes | 20:05 |
tadzik | I use car navigation through android apps all the time | 20:05 |
Etua | The other thing that problably won't work is https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/mod-samsung-gear-360-manager-device-t3400383 It emulates Samsung services in some weird way so it could as well not work on every Andoid phone. | 20:07 |
Etua | However someone discovered how to execute some of the commands over wifi, not BT unfortunately, so with some effort I could probably prepare native app for everything except live view. | 20:09 |
Etua | tadzik: How many apps you have from Android because there is not Sailfish counterpart or it's heavily lacking? | 20:10 |
tadzik | let's see | 20:10 |
tadzik | firefox, here maps/osmand, c:geo, city parking, streetcomplete, city bikes, duolingo, steam | 20:11 |
tadzik | that's about it | 20:12 |
tadzik | streetcomplete and city bikes I could live without, duolingo too, the rest is pretty much a hard requirement for me | 20:13 |
Etua | r0kk3rz: Sure but you can't take a refund after you buy the licence, do you? I would like to check the full experience with Android apps. | 20:13 |
r0kk3rz | no, but its not that much | 20:13 |
r0kk3rz | its hard to convey the full 'sailfish experience' into words | 20:14 |
r0kk3rz | if it sounds like something you're interested in, then worst case you donate €50 to a bunch of finns | 20:14 |
Etua | r0kk3rz: I live in PLN world, actually I don't remember paying for any license that much since buying antivirus for three years around 2012 and MS Office Visio for the company ;) | 20:16 |
Etua | Still I have a need for supporting clause of not letting big G dominate the Internet completly. | 20:17 |
tadzik | oh, a fellow pole :) | 20:18 |
Etua | tadzik: That's set of apps very similar to mine. How do you update them? F-Droid, APKs, alternative Google Play frontend? | 20:19 |
r0kk3rz | yeah, they should probably have a cheaper price for poland | 20:19 |
tadzik | and yes, around here 50€ is not far from a daily wage to some people | 20:19 |
r0kk3rz | 50€ buys quite a lot there | 20:19 |
tadzik | Etua: f-droid or aptoide | 20:19 |
Etua | r0kk3rz: As far as I can remember there is a legal issue/dispute with having different prices for the same service in EEA. That's why you have special Steam prices for Russia but not really for counties between Germany and Ukraine/Belarus. | 20:24 |
Etua | r0kk3rz: How much of image quality or anything else you loose by getting rid of Sony DRM? | 20:25 |
r0kk3rz | on the xa2, im not sure | 20:29 |
r0kk3rz | on older sony devices its pretty bad, newer ones arent so bad | 20:30 |
r0kk3rz | i think the hardware got better so it needs less software compensation | 20:30 |
Etua | Is it only about image quality or also their other "magiacal" features like sound enhancements or power management? | 20:31 |
Etua | Does anyone here use apps like Conversation that need to run background service to maintaing connection with the server? Do they work on Sailfish? | 20:32 |
Etua | *in order to maintain | 20:33 |
r0kk3rz | noise cancelling headphone stuff is affected | 20:34 |
r0kk3rz | power management will be completely different anyway on sailfish | 20:35 |
r0kk3rz | for XMPP you dont need an 'app' its built into the OS | 20:35 |
Etua | I know, Conversations is just an example of such behaviour, yet I don't know whether all XEPs that Conversations has are implemented in default Sailfish OS app so maybe I would prefer to use it even if that meant worse UI integration. | 20:37 |
Etua | Speaking of that: how are notifications handled both for native and Android apps? | 20:38 |
r0kk3rz | it probably doesnt | 20:38 |
tadzik | notifications from android apps Just Work[tm] | 20:38 |
r0kk3rz | notifications are fairly notificationy, not sure what you're after | 20:38 |
r0kk3rz | Etua: what android device do you have? | 20:40 |
Etua | r0kk3rz: I used OPO for a few years then Galaxy S5, both on Lineage OS without GAPPS so I experienced features like replying directly in notifications menu which Conversations supports. Unfortunately both devices fell on the ground and I'm now looking for an alternative. A decision whether to use Sailfish OS will directly affect my hardware choice. | 20:44 |
Etua | I did not mention: both OPO and S5 used to run Android 8.1. | 20:45 |
r0kk3rz | oh ok, we do ports of sailfish to many android devices | 20:51 |
r0kk3rz | so you might've been lucky | 20:51 |
Etua | Is Sailfish X the only version supporting Android apps? | 20:52 |
r0kk3rz | that you can actually buy? yeah currently | 20:53 |
r0kk3rz | 'sailfish x' isnt really a version either | 20:54 |
r0kk3rz | its best to ignore the term completely | 20:54 |
Etua | Why is that? | 20:54 |
r0kk3rz | 'sailfish x' is a confusing marketing term that makes little sense | 20:55 |
tadzik | yep | 20:55 |
Etua | That small hardware choice is not the best situation, but unfortunately Android app support is probably make or break for me. | 20:55 |
r0kk3rz | yeah it sucks | 20:56 |
steeeve | Saying sailfish x sux in a sailfish group doesnt make sense | 20:57 |
r0kk3rz | steeeve: you dont make sense | 20:58 |
steeeve | No you | 20:58 |
Etua | I'd love to see a device that has better camera quality or at least does not loose it much without DRM component's. And Sony is not the worst choice for that. | 20:58 |
r0kk3rz | steeeve: fite me | 20:58 |
steeeve | r0kk3rz: im coming :0 | 20:58 |
r0kk3rz | Etua: i dont see a similar arrangement happening for other manufacturers so much | 21:00 |
r0kk3rz | sony is quite unique in that regard | 21:00 |
steeeve | Then buy a galaxy a5 2015 version | 21:00 |
r0kk3rz | definitely not that | 21:00 |
steeeve | :D | 21:00 |
steeeve | Kitkat device running 9.0 thanks to me, THANKS TO ME!! | 21:02 |
r0kk3rz | (and everyone else in porters channel) | 21:02 |
steeeve | And sailfish 3.0, still thanks to me ^^ | 21:02 |
steeeve | r0kk3rz: no | 21:03 |
steeeve | Thats for sailfish,not for android | 21:03 |
Etua | I remember running 4.4.4 on first Galaxy S. There were somelater versions, unfortunately at that time my screen was preety dead. | 21:03 |
steeeve | In that case yes, half of the hardware is working thanks to that channel :P | 21:03 |
Etua | I suppose that Android apps can't access notifications and mange many system setting because that is much API dependend. That makes a weird situation where you can't connect device running Asteroid OS with Sailfish OS which both run "true" Linux, use Qt etc. or can you? | 21:15 |
r0kk3rz | sailfish and asteroid are quite alike | 21:16 |
r0kk3rz | but of course, BLE support in sailfish is mostly nonexistent, so yeah not so much talky going on there | 21:16 |
Etua | Anyway I have Sony SW3 which has the worst support among all official releases so it can't even work for the whole day without being recharged. | 21:19 |
Etua | Why BLE does not work? Is it about complexity of the software, no need and resources or does it need proprietary drivers? | 21:20 |
steeeve | Lets use kitkat base to have alien dalvik! | 21:21 |
r0kk3rz | Etua: its complicated, but the tl;dr is lack of drivers | 21:21 |
Etua | Oh, so it cannot be achieved without third party cooperation? | 21:22 |
r0kk3rz | no, just kernel work that is typically not done | 21:24 |
steeeve | Mal updated anbox today. Looks good | 21:24 |
mal | no I didn't | 21:28 |
mal | steeeve: what do you mean? | 21:28 |
steeeve | Yes you did | 21:29 |
steeeve | http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/mal:/anbox/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/ | 21:29 |
steeeve | 14 november | 21:29 |
r0kk3rz | lol. | 21:32 |
r0kk3rz | you know the sailfish_latest target got updated today | 21:32 |
r0kk3rz | so it rebuilt, that is all | 21:32 |
Etua | You told me that Android apps using BT won't work. Is that the case with native ones too? | 21:33 |
r0kk3rz | no thats ok | 21:34 |
r0kk3rz | i dont think theres many native bt apps, but yeah | 21:34 |
mal | steeeve: it was st rebuilt because target updated | 21:40 |
mal | *just | 21:40 |
steeeve | I supposed it was automatically rebuilt | 21:40 |
caitlin | i tried a usb-c cable and that can't even find the device, luls | 21:43 |
Etua | Is Jolla Harbour a complete representations of apps that are available through official store? | 21:44 |
steeeve | No | 21:46 |
r0kk3rz | jolla harbour is the official store | 21:49 |
steeeve | Yes | 21:50 |
dlavsolin | steeeve, have you tried anbox rpms on sailfishos? | 22:18 |
steeeve | Yeees | 22:20 |
steeeve | 2 months ago | 22:20 |
dlavsolin | on what device? | 22:21 |
Etua | I've just read TOS for Harbour and there is a whole exhibit dedicated to Here Technologies. What kind of relationship is present between Jolla and Here? How are their services used in the OS? | 22:21 |
steeeve | A5 | 22:22 |
martonmiklos | Hi all | 22:54 |
martonmiklos | where should be place the qm files of the libraries? | 22:55 |
martonmiklos | I have a QML plugin called vcardserialier | 22:55 |
martonmiklos | *vcardserializer | 22:55 |
martonmiklos | I have installed the translation vcardserializer-hu_HU.qm to the /usr/share/translations | 22:55 |
Etua | It was nice talking to you guys. Huge thanks to you all! | 23:37 |
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