Thursday, 2018-11-15

*** frinring_ is now known as frinring02:36
*** ecloud is now known as ecloud_wfh07:15
sledgesPSA: Sailfish OS community collaboration in just under a half-hour, /join #mer-meeting08:34
*** pvuorela_ is now known as pvuorela08:58
Mister_Magisterwhoa if you tap on the top of the screen on lock screen part of top menu will show up09:00
leszekyeah quick lock09:00
Mister_Magisterand change ambiance09:01
leszekI tried to change ambience that way never achieved that. As even if you scroll the ambiences it will close itself down after a timer ran out09:01
Mister_Magisterchanging ambiances works for me09:02
Mister_Magisterleszek: but ye some lock for onDown would be good09:03
Mister_Magisterleszek: but thats too much for jolla to do09:26
leszekI doubt09:26
Mister_Magisterleszek: it took them 5 years to add timer on closing apps which is 5 mins of work so ya know adding block on onDown is too much09:39
Mister_Magisterclosing tabs*09:39
Mister_Magisterhow did this even pass the Q&A09:40
Mister_Magisteri mean09:40
Coolgeekhmm, can't install zypper it seems :(09:48
Coolgeekbroken package ?09:48
Coolgeeksome dep are not met09:48
leszekCoolgeek: refresh the packagelist before09:48
Coolgeekdone and same09:49
Coolgeekpkcon update right ?09:49
leszekpkcon refresh09:49
Coolgeekworks fine. thanks :)09:51
Mister_Magisterits not ubuntu09:51
CoolgeekI'm not used to packamge manager in SFOS09:51
Mister_Magisterapt have so stupid names its unbelieveble09:51
caitlincan you restore a backup from a J1 onto an XA2?10:09
tadzikshould Just Work[tm]10:10
Coolgeekwhen I did pkcon update, I saw a lot of package to be updated. is it safe to do so ?10:14
r0kk3rzdont ever do pkcon update10:14
CoolgeekI didn't update :)10:15
Coolgeekjust saw that, freaked out :)10:15
leszekcaitlin: should be possible10:20
caitlinfuns, don't to config all my aco10:23
caitlinalso epic thanks to mal yesterday. i windowsed by flash in the end for great driver install confusion and success10:24
malthere is something fishy in linux fastboot now10:25
r0kk3rzDylanVanAssche: you'll need to wait for the next release for qt5.9 though10:33
DylanVanAsscher0kk3rz: Yeah I expected that... Velox on Telegram also wants to help with the application QML stuff. Are you on Telegram too?10:38
DylanVanAsscher0kk3rz: Matrix I guess?10:39
r0kk3rzi probably wont have time for much QMLing anyway10:40
DylanVanAsscher0kk3rz: a QtWebengine build would help already a lot :)10:41
r0kk3rzdidnt seem so hard10:42
r0kk3rzit was mostly finding the bits on gmo10:42
Mister_Magistercaitlin: i restored one device backup on another with not problem just it would be best if sfos version matched i think10:50
caitlinyeh, everything is sf3 and it worked great10:54
r0kk3rzwow this takes forever to build11:07
r0kk3rzflypig: congrats on the new job btw11:09
DylanVanAsscher0kk3rz: hehe. This branch was already adapted for Jolla by a Sailor. From scratch it's much more difficult11:23
DylanVanAsscheThat was the reason for the topic: getting hold on those sources :)11:24
r0kk3rzbut i thought id have to build more of qt5.9, not just qtbase and one package11:25
DylanVanAsscheI was surprised as well :)11:25
DylanVanAsschea while back, the build requirements for Chromium like Ninja weren't available as well11:26
tadzikoh, sailfish has a free trial11:28
tadzikI didn't know :)11:29
tadzik(sailfish x)11:29
DylanVanAsscheIt was recently added with the SFOS 3 release11:29
tadziksomeone was asking about it here yesterday I think11:30
tadzikyeah, Etua, but they're gone now11:30
r0kk3rzthey made it quite clear that the android support was an important thing though11:31
r0kk3rzwhich isnt in the freemium version11:31
tadzikso it isn't a free trial11:31
tadzikah, *without*11:31
tadzikI can't read11:31
tadzikI thought it has it all but for a limited time or something11:31
r0kk3rzi dont understand why they keep saying 'trial' does it have a time limit?11:32
r0kk3rzsurely its the same as if you built the adaptation yourself using the open process11:32
M4rtinKI guess it could be trial in the sense that they will not update the image11:50
M4rtinKso as long you use the trial image you are effectively stuck at 3.0.811:51
M4rtinKbut that's just my guess11:51
M4rtinKand for the record I really like the idea of the image being free, as that reduces the amount of friction for onboarding new Sailfish OS users11:52
M4rtinKyou already need to obtain compatible hardware and effectively wipe it, so now you can also try Sailfish OS without first paying some money you will not get back if you don't like it11:52
flypigr0kk3rz, thanks :) I'm very much enjoying it so far (and Sorry for the delay in replying - I was indisposed for a bit).12:15
Mister_Magisterflypig: wait untill you will be busy all day ;)12:16
flypigMister_Magister, very true :)12:19
r0kk3rzflypig: what have they got you doing?12:23
flypigr0kk3rz, right now, I'm still distinguishing my arse from my elbow ;) This isn't my official activity though, but in all honestly I'm still getting up to speed. Ask me again in a couple of weeks :)12:30
r0kk3rzalright, hope it goes well12:31
flypigthanks :)12:31
flypigr0kk3rz, Mister_Magister, good luck with your QtWebEngine work.12:34
Mister_Magisterflypig: good luck with doing some great things to sfos12:44
flypigHa ha thanks. I'm trying not to destroy anything, anyway ;)12:46
Mister_Magisteri wanted to work at jolla once i event sent cv12:48
flypigWell, I've moved to Finland to work here, so it's been a big, but fun, upheaval.13:01
flypigMaybe you'll send it again in the future Mister_Magister?13:03
jvlanyone using pkgsrc on sfos? I can't get perl to compile13:04
flypigjvl, I've used perl, but only the version in the repos. Sorry.13:05
Mister_Magisterflypig: 2 months ago sure, now doubt13:09
x2sdoes anyone know a matrix client for sfos with e2e encryption?13:59
x2sthere's tensor and harbour-matrix, but the first one seems abandoned and the second one doesn't seem to support it14:00
r0kk3rzim quite certain one doesnt exist14:02
x2sthat's a bit sad14:18
r0kk3rzwell these things dont magically appear out of the ether, someone has to make them14:20
IngvixHey, anyone know if I can change the function of physical buttons on the device or are they hard-coded?15:56
r0kk3rzyou can configure MCE to do different things with them15:57
IngvixSo I can't really set it to do what ever I want but only to choose from a few to none options?16:10
r0kk3rzmaybe if you explained what you actually want to achieve...16:17
IngvixI was thinking of specific time-based action for volume keys. If you hold it for a while rather than release, it would do something else but if you would release it within the time frame, it would act normally and change volume.16:19
r0kk3rzyeah thats a bit more complicated16:25
r0kk3rzwell qtwebengine finally built18:04
r0kk3rzthat took foreeeever18:04
* fledermaus hands r0kk3rz llvm-7 18:20
r0kk3rzi built llvm6, so yeah...18:21
fledermausthings that make me despair when I have to kick off yet another build cycle: qtwebkit, llvm18:23
fledermausespecially when the build fails at the final step, during packaging.18:23
fledermausWHYYYYYYYYYY ;_;18:23
r0kk3rzwhatcha building?18:34
fledermaussemi-s3kr1t, but see PM18:39
depscribejust read the minutes from this morning's meeting. are things as dismal as they appear, or is this how things always are?18:56
PeperJohnnyThis one seemed worse than usual18:57
r0kk3rzyeah usually the meetings are fairly uneventful19:21
steeeveWhere is the meeting?20:20
r0kk3rzin space20:20
r0kk3rzlunar orbit20:20
steeeveI though it was in scandinavia :/20:21
steeeveSince sailfish comes from island iceland20:21
steeeveNo island20:22
steeevePablo escobar20:24
kimmoliit comes from here

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