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coderus | wow, tmo "The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later." | 11:14 |
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johansmitsnl | Right now this room I use is bridged with Matrix, are there plans to move the Room to a Matrix server without the IRC bridge? | 15:00 |
Nico[m] | Probably not, since most users are still on IRC and the matrix clients for sailfish aren't that good yet ;p | 15:33 |
x2s | the matrix clients for desktops aren't that good either. | 15:34 |
Nico[m] | Hey, don't you complain about my Nheko! It is perfect!!! | 15:39 |
x2s | Until it get's stuck somewhere and uses up 100% of a cpu ;) | 15:47 |
x2s | *cpu core | 15:47 |
Nico[m] | I fixed that issue for 0.7.0, but a new one popped up, that only one person experiences on a tablet, that I don't have... | 15:52 |
x2s | well, I'm still on 0.6.4. Have to wait for the pkg maintainer to upload a newer version | 16:01 |
Nico[m] | And the maintainer needs to wait for me to stabilize 0.7.0 and release it, so all my talk was pretty useless :D | 16:03 |
ol | <x2s "the matrix clients for desktops "> Riot-Web is the most fully-featured Matrix client, BTW. | 16:33 |
ol | <Nico[m] "Hey, don't you complain about my"> Does it have full support for E2E encryption and key management already? | 16:34 |
Nico[m] | It supports encrypted messages, media and manually importing/exporting keys. It can also share keys, but not request them. What's missing is device verification and requesting keys via gossip. That one is waiting for cross-signing to be actually added to the spec, although someone wants to implement it for GSoC, so well see. | 16:41 |
Nico[m] | The whole verification stuff is half way finished, but we shelved it for now, so we don't steal a potential GSoC project | 16:42 |
ol | Nico[m] (IRC): So, what should I do if I install Nheko and want to read old messages from an encrypted room that I already read using Riot-Web? Can I add / sign keys manually? | 16:44 |
x2s | ol: riot web is, as the name implies, a website. I want a desktop application. Call my old school, but I like stuff that integrates into my desktop environment and doesn't us 10% of my computing power just to be "there". | 16:49 |
ol | x2s (IRC): You can always wrap web app in Electron (there is one for Riot-Web already). Not ideal solution, but better than nothing. Alternatively, you can work on improving desktop apps: Nheko, Quaternion... | 16:52 |
Nico[m] | x2s: You would go to your Riot settings and export your keys and then import them in the Nheko settings | 16:53 |
x2s | Nico[m]: you mean't ol here :) | 16:54 |
x2s | ol: well, electron is even worse, because it's somehow just a browser... | 16:55 |
Nico[m] | Ups, yeah :D | 17:01 |
ol | Nico[m] (IRC): Do you have instructions how to do that? | 17:04 |
Nico[m] | Anyway, if someonewant to contribute to Nheko or just complain about it, I'm usually providing support in #nheko-reborn:matrix.org :3 | 17:05 |
Nico[m] | ol: Do what exactly? | 17:28 |
attah | Is it just me, or are the timestamps in the call log completely useless? I.e. the last 2 weeks only showing the time, and not the date | 17:48 |
attah | seems this would have been found if it was affecting everyone... | 17:48 |
ol | <Nico[m] "ol: Do what exactly?"> This: "You would go to your Riot settings and export your keys and then import them in the Nheko settings" | 17:51 |
Nico[m] | ol: Go to your riot settings > security > Encryption > Export E2EE session keys. Save that file somewhere. Then open Nheko, open it's settings, scroll to the bottom and click the button labeled import and import your keys | 18:05 |
ol | Nico[m] (IRC): But will it lead to two devices having the same private key? | 18:07 |
Nico[m] | No, it imports the session keys, i.e. the keys to decrypt E2EE messages. You probably have about 1000 of those right about now | 18:08 |
ol | Nico[m] (IRC): Error. "decrypt_exported_sessions: ciphertext too small" | 18:19 |
Nico[m] | Which version are you on? This may be one of the issues fixed for 0.7 | 18:48 |
attah | me? 3.3.0.14 | 18:49 |
attah | so that was not for me xD | 18:49 |
Nico[m] | No, ol :D | 18:49 |
Nico[m] | Also my call log seems to show the date | 18:50 |
ol | Nico[m] (IRC): The latest version, of course: 0.6.4. | 18:50 |
Nico[m] | Well, yeah, this may be some incompatibility we fixed in 0.7.0. At least I did it a few times without issue. I hope we can release it soon, but we still found a few bugs ._. | 18:51 |
Nico[m] | You could try the nightly though, if you are alright with an AppImage, Flatpak or building it yourself? | 18:52 |
ol | No. I just want RPM. | 18:52 |
Nico[m] | Well, then I hope it works for you in 2 weeks or so ._. | 18:52 |
ol | Please release 0.7.0 ASAP so it can be packaged properly. | 18:52 |
ol | OK, I'll be waiting. | 18:53 |
Nico[m] | I'm gonna release it, when we fixed a few more issues people are having. It doesn't make sense to release with blocker issues :D | 18:54 |
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