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| LinuxTerm | the icon design of sailfishos seems weird to me | 14:53 |
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| LinuxTerm | it is very inconsistant | 14:53 |
| Nico[m] | Which icons? | 14:53 |
| LinuxTerm | they all have different shapes | 14:54 |
| ggabriel | LinuxTerm: for example? | 14:59 |
| * ggabriel took a very strong effort to avoid cynicism there | 14:59 | |
| bigbat | hello | 15:49 |
| bigbat | joining you guys soon just found xperia 10 plus | 15:49 |
| bigbat | flashing soon | 15:50 |
| bigbat | may i ask what maps application do you guys use | 15:50 |
| bigbat | navigation | 15:50 |
| Nico[m] | Pure Maps with OSM Scout server | 15:51 |
| bigbat | great would here maps work or google maps | 15:52 |
| Nico[m] | There used to be a native here maps version for Sailfish, but I haven't used that one in ages. Google Maps needs you to setup MicroG, which is annoying and I have never tried GMaps on Sailfish | 15:53 |
| bigbat | great | 15:53 |
| bigbat | sounds like fun learning curve | 15:53 |
| bigbat | can i ask you for a favor please | 15:54 |
| bigbat | may i ask you please to try to download whats app | 15:54 |
| bigbat | sorry | 15:54 |
| bigbat | i mean microsoft teams | 15:54 |
| bigbat | i think you told me whats app works yesterday | 15:54 |
| Nico[m] | Nope | 15:54 |
| Nico[m] | I have an older Sailfish version, with a different android compat layer, so my results wouldn't even help you much | 15:55 |
| bigbat | ahhh | 15:55 |
| bigbat | sorry i'm not a dev i just came for the graphics | 15:56 |
| bigbat | : | 15:56 |
| bigbat | :D | 15:56 |
| Nico[m] | No worries ;p | 15:56 |
| Nico[m] | I really am just too lazy to try it atm actually :3 | 15:56 |
| pketo | whatsapp works, haven't tried teams, but I think it should work | 15:56 |
| Max-Might1 | What is the proper way to use the 'sfdk build-shell' command? I always get an error when I try to use it ... says a target is needed | 15:59 |
| Nico[m] | You need to sfdk config target= before that | 15:59 |
| bigbat | oh | 15:59 |
| bigbat | how i do that | 15:59 |
| Max-Might1 | Nico[m]: that did it, thanks! | 16:01 |
| Nico[m] | It trips me up every time, because the sdk randomely forgets my target :D | 16:01 |
| bigbat | hi | 16:53 |
| bigbat | again | 16:53 |
| bigbat | is saildfish os considered linux | 16:53 |
| bigbat | my friend send me a link and i don't know how to ask about it in a positive way | 16:53 |
| bigbat | i don't want to look like i'm saying negative things | 16:53 |
| bigbat | but i'm worried i bout the sony phone already and was about to flash tomorrow | 16:54 |
| bigbat | https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/linux-phones.html | 16:55 |
| bigbat | here you go can someone please help me (im no tech guy) | 16:55 |
| x2s | it's more Linux than Android for sure... | 17:02 |
| bigbat | this guy claim all linux phone are not secured | 17:03 |
| x2s | In which way secured? | 17:05 |
| bigbat | no idea | 17:05 |
| bigbat | that why i was looking for help :D | 17:05 |
| bigbat | understand | 17:05 |
| x2s | If you really need a secure phone, librem is your choice. | 17:05 |
| bigbat | i'm average joe just looking for fun phone | 17:06 |
| bigbat | browser with no adds | 17:06 |
| x2s | But all the other phones, well... most of them are embedded linux devices. Means they have a Linux kernel on it. But nobody really cares about updates and patches | 17:06 |
| bigbat | and if used onlinr banking safe enough | 17:07 |
| x2s | the problem with embedded Linux is: Some vendor takes some weird ARM processor core, throws it onto an IC with lots of different stuff, then writes some linux kernel code to get everything to run | 17:07 |
| x2s | but they use old kernels, never care about getting their patches into mainline kernel und also make upgrading a hell. | 17:07 |
| x2s | the security of phones comes mainly from the way they are disconnected from the internet... | 17:08 |
| x2s | so a direct attack is pretty hard. But you still can use techniques like sending malformated messages, trying to exploit bugs in the browser, etc. | 17:09 |
| x2s | but that are apps and they get updated much better. | 17:09 |
| bigbat | i see | 17:10 |
| x2s | if it would be possible to directly access a phone over the internet, the whole system would break. :D | 17:11 |
| Gestra | "security" is such a vague term by itself here. it's hard to talk about it if it's not defined more clearly. like, secure against what or who? | 17:11 |
| x2s | Luckily we are short of IPv4 addresses and ever provider has to use NAT. | 17:11 |
| x2s | Gestra: agreed | 17:12 |
| x2s | *every provider | 17:12 |
| x2s | (and even when everyone eventuelly switches to IPv6, they will still use NAT. ;) | 17:12 |
| bigbat | ok i will go a head with that flash then | 17:13 |
| bigbat | i really hope the sony 10 would be faster than volla | 17:13 |
| bigbat | with android support defenilty will be more usefull as daily phone | 17:14 |
| martonmiklos | Hi folks | 22:57 |
| martonmiklos | how can I get command line output from the transferengine plugins? | 22:57 |
| martonmiklos | qWarning/qDebug does not visible when I launch the jolla-contacts from command line | 22:58 |
| martonmiklos | is there any debugging best practice for transferengine plugins | 22:58 |
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