| ViGe | I quite like hydrogen. My biggest issue with it is that you can't open links directly. You can copypaste the URLS but that's clumsy. | 07:31 |
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| poetaster | ViGe, in matrix land I use gomuks, and have to change view AND copy/past. pita. but it's the smallest footprint client. | 07:50 |
| poetaster | ViGe, of course, I don't chat on a phone. I'm a touch typist for god's sake! | 07:51 |
| Thaodan | Purple-Matrix is sadly in a bad shape working bitlbee would be nice. | 07:52 |
| poetaster | yeah, that'd be my ideal. | 07:52 |
| Renaud[m] | matrix-ircd might be worth a try | 07:56 |
| poetaster | there is a weechat plugin | 08:00 |
| poetaster | with encryption, I gather. I've just been to busy to test it. | 08:00 |
| poetaster | https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix | 08:01 |
| inz | and the rust version, I used that for a while | 08:17 |
| poetaster | did that do e2e? | 08:20 |
| inz | yes | 08:21 |
| Thaodan | the weechat plugins are tied to weechat sadly | 08:21 |
| poetaster | true. | 08:21 |
| poetaster | but the whole matrix ecosystem is a pain. I recently built scripts and fail2ban filters just to be certain media archive can't be scraped. | 08:27 |
| alinmelena[m] | sailtrix is not bad just needs a little bit of love to be able to do verification | 08:27 |
| alinmelena[m] | and key | 08:27 |
| alinmelena[m] | but looks to me as many users of matrix there are as many clients | 08:27 |
| poetaster | :0 | 08:27 |
| inz | I would extend that statement with "abandoned clients" | 08:30 |
| alinmelena[m] | yap... seems everyone thinks it is easy to write one | 08:31 |
| alinmelena[m] | why shall I contribute to someone elses... | 08:32 |
| Renaud[m] | I'd say it's not as bad (yet) as xmpp | 08:32 |
| alinmelena[m] | anyhoe this will not solve the issue | 08:32 |
| alinmelena[m] | xmpp i am still amased it is still a thing | 08:32 |
| poetaster | well, the xmpp clients have had a lot of time to bitrot. | 08:34 |
| poetaster | xmpp has the stability of standards. I've recently revived are old xmpp infra and got everything running. stun, turn, omemo for group chats, the works. | 08:35 |
| poetaster | s/are/our/ ... | 08:36 |
| poetaster | the problem is nobody wants to work with xml :) | 08:36 |
| alinmelena[m] | only computers shall work with xml or json | 08:36 |
| poetaster | ah, the good old days of DTDs, XSD < 1.2, 1000 lines XSLTs :) | 08:38 |
| poetaster | I'm still trying to hunt down the BGR/RGB bug in Label https://github.com/sailfishos/qtbase/commit/c1e5f600abaee393e66fb04e2038bc97d82851ef | 08:44 |
| poetaster | Silica's Label is an extended Text or? | 08:46 |
| poetaster | ah! scaledToHeight() changes the Format. hmmm. | 09:00 |
| poetaster | attah, I think I may have found it. QTransform is, I believe the r<->b swap culprit | 09:03 |
| poetaster | attah, nah. we implemented your Format transform BEFORE any other scale/orientation transform. | 09:18 |
| piggz | rinigus: morning | 09:49 |
| piggz | looks like i need to make some stats for chum to justify obs *yawn* | 09:51 |
| alinmelena[m] | I thought stats are somehow automatic.. | 10:18 |
| alinmelena[m] | I remember in the opensuse one things are kind of public | 10:18 |
| poetaster | piggz, I have several more app rescues in the pipeline. I'll increase the pace :) | 11:07 |
| piggz | poetaster: great, get them in! | 11:08 |
| poetaster | okidoke. | 11:08 |
| alinmelena[m] | if you have a list I can do few of them if helps | 11:09 |
| poetaster | this is a wiki I started: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/apps-that-havent-been-ported-to-aarch64/8497 | 11:10 |
| poetaster | many if not most have had tickets made | 11:10 |
| alinmelena[m] | cool | 11:16 |
| alinmelena[m] | I will have a look over the weekend | 11:16 |
| alinmelena[m] | and try to submit some | 11:16 |
| poetaster | cool! | 11:17 |
| poetaster | the prplmnky ones (which are easy) I've more or less finished. | 11:17 |
| poetaster | piggz, I do think my don quijote number may end in tears :) | 11:19 |
| piggz | poetaster: rejected, no license :) | 12:24 |
| poetaster | ? in the spec? | 12:26 |
| poetaster | I see it. | 12:27 |
| alinmelena[m] | question on xperia 10 II fm radio is not supported | 12:49 |
| alinmelena[m] | ? | 12:49 |
| Thaodan | alinmelena[m]: I don't think so | 12:50 |
| Thaodan | The device can do fm radio but no one made it work on aosp | 12:50 |
| alinmelena[m] | i see this is what it thought | 12:50 |
| alinmelena[m] | wanted to double check | 12:50 |
| poetaster | piggz, forgot the tags after 1.2 are messed up. | 13:03 |
| alinmelena[m] | all the plumbings for fm radio shall be there | 13:04 |
| alinmelena[m] | since worked on jolla-c | 13:04 |
| mal | sony hasn't supported fm radio in aosp for a long time now | 13:05 |
| alinmelena[m] | i see | 13:06 |
| mal | does xperia 10 II even have fm radio? | 13:06 |
| mal | I don't see it mentioned in specs in websites I checked | 13:07 |
| alinmelena[m] | thought so... based on feature listing | 13:07 |
| mal | where did you find such a listing? | 13:07 |
| alinmelena[m] | i see gsm arena says no | 13:07 |
| mal | some sites say it does and some say it doesn't have it | 13:08 |
| alinmelena[m] | https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/baae5303 | 13:10 |
| alinmelena[m] | yap | 13:10 |
| alinmelena[m] | to be honest I did not check in the android | 13:11 |
| alinmelena[m] | practically i got it from ebay and install sailfish on it | 13:11 |
| alinmelena[m] | did not check the radio bits | 13:11 |
| poetaster | piggz, PackagingRepo ? | 13:23 |
| poetaster | piggz, I can't seem to get Custom urls for bugtracker working when Upstream repo is set either. | 13:24 |
| piggz | try harder :D | 13:24 |
| poetaster | piggz, too many ladels in too many soup pots on too many open fires. | 13:25 |
| poetaster | I need to slow down. You need me to speed up :) | 13:25 |
| poetaster | piggz, fix the lipstick screenshot bug so I can make screenshots! | 13:41 |
| piggz | i think its fixable with the lipstci patch ... i just dont want to re-package that every time there is an update! | 13:44 |
| poetaster | do you mean elros patch? | 13:53 |
| piggz | yeah | 13:57 |
| poetaster | piggz, I don't get it. can't that be automated? | 13:57 |
| piggz | its rebasing on each release | 13:57 |
| piggz | maybe ill give it a go | 13:57 |
| poetaster | well, it's that or my vollas are paperweights :) | 13:57 |
| poetaster | piggz, you mean rebasing which part? not the whole, surely? | 13:59 |
| piggz | the patch will need rebased onto the listick code for each release | 13:59 |
| poetaster | piggz, of course. I'm being slow. | 14:00 |
| rinigus | piggz: don't think we can provide any stats. and it looks like Jolla will drag with the decision as long as it could, regardless to what we do. and it would depend on whether they pay invoice once a year of once per month. if it is once per month then they would probably drag for longer... | 16:54 |
| piggz | rinigus: for us its easy, num packages, arch, releases ... lbt to try and provide download stats | 16:55 |
| rinigus | ... I some times wonder whether Jolla is taking mañana to the next level in terms of postponing. as for stats, honestly, don't think it will make any difference. | 16:57 |
| rinigus | I suspect that Jolla has hands full with the ownership restructuring and it may all end up with closing up the shop. OBS is probably not high on the agenda | 16:58 |
| rinigus | piggz: ^ | 16:58 |
| piggz | well maybe, but lets stay positive! | 16:58 |
| rinigus | piggz: positive is all fine by me :). not much time in May though for SFOS, hopefully more in summer. | 17:00 |
| rinigus | piggz: our side of the stats: ls in OBS checkout? | 17:03 |
| piggz | wdym? | 17:05 |
| rinigus | piggz: never mind. number of packages is listed at obs page | 17:07 |
| rinigus | piggz: how do you plan to show releases? for each package? | 17:07 |
| piggz | rinigus: just high level numbers, so, 210 packages, across 9 releases and 3 architectures | 17:22 |
| rinigus | piggz: OK, I see. but then its done :) | 17:22 |
| rinigus | piggz: what would be interesting to know the number of packages in Jolla Store that were updated during a last year. something that you could compare with | 17:23 |
| piggz | rinigus: like you, i dont want to put loads of time in....i thought by now we had proved ourselves, evidently not quite! | 17:25 |
| rinigus | piggz: I wouldn't conclude that. it is just they have other things to fix first and as long as Jolla can postpone long-term commitments, they will do so. | 17:26 |
| rinigus | which is right now quite understandable. | 17:27 |
| poetaster | piggz, rinigus aren't stats like number of users, downloads of more import? | 17:28 |
| rinigus | poetaster: we don't have those | 17:28 |
| poetaster | rinigus, that sucks. | 17:29 |
| poetaster | well, anyone in their right mind would recognize the advantage of obs/chum to openrepos. if you want to allow alternate sources. | 17:30 |
| poetaster | attah, you about? | 17:46 |
| attah | poetaster: yup | 17:46 |
| poetaster | so, I was digging about and it seems that a number of QImage transforms, scaledToHeight for instance, also do color transforms | 17:47 |
| attah | Wow... i thought Qt had actual users... | 17:47 |
| poetaster | I think it's an ephemeral that we're stuck with because our QT is old. | 17:48 |
| attah | Sure... might have gotten fixed... but Qt 5 can hardly be blamed for being immature | 17:48 |
| poetaster | I'll paraphrase you in saying 'color is hard' :) | 17:49 |
| poetaster | What's really hard is working back from a QML component (where scaling and rotation apply) to QImageProvider, QImage, various IO streaming classes, etc. | 17:50 |
| attah | Fair enough... and big things trying to be somewhat optimized will mix in interesting ways with that, especially for not bog-standard formats | 17:50 |
| attah | Remind me to add the github issue to remove Qt from the SeaPrint rendering pipeline | 17:51 |
| poetaster | ! man, I wish I could follow your lead ! But I'm like a chicago crack junky on QT crack. | 17:51 |
| poetaster | I keep trying to follow sashikknox down the road to sdl enlightenment but my foo is bah. | 17:53 |
| poetaster | attah, I think I'll try to provide an overview of my research in a PM. There's a bit too much to compress into chat. | 17:54 |
| attah | sneaky way to rope me in to possibly helping | 17:54 |
| attah | also interesting | 17:54 |
| poetaster | However, as often, it started with: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59950899/color-channels-are-changing-using-qt-qimage-with-data-and-i-dont-know-why | 17:54 |
| poetaster | you've already helped a great deal! fixed paint! | 17:55 |
| poetaster | kimmoli, you there? we're talking about you. | 17:55 |
| * attah applied prejudice, it is moderately effective | 17:56 | |
| poetaster | I'm in a sort of 'flurry' which is probably best explained by being a slave to the demands of a child under 10. | 17:57 |
| poetaster | sorta like having to walk the dog. It leads to a form of dementia, that in my case manifests in trying to complete too many software projects at once. | 17:58 |
| poetaster | oh. and work is really slack at the moment. | 17:58 |
| attah | Interesting situation, pretty alien to me | 17:59 |
| attah | and i'm trying to get an image into 1bpp printer raster without implementing it myself... just to test... but of course current tools refuse | 18:00 |
| poetaster | I don't think I'm typical. piggz has more kids than I and they are grown up. and I'm ten years older than him. | 18:00 |
| poetaster | 1bpp. I saw a simliar pattern today ... what's that? | 18:00 |
| attah | bits per pixel | 18:01 |
| poetaster | sorry, the question is what is 1bpp printer raster? | 18:03 |
| poetaster | back in 10 | 18:03 |
| attah | Just the printer (PWG) raster that contains just 1 bpp | 18:04 |
| attah | My implementations are byte-oriented so far, 8-bit greyscale and 24-bit RGB | 18:04 |
| poetaster | ah, got it. | 18:50 |
| attah | So i guess i'm implementing my own bit-abstraction at some point | 18:53 |
| poetaster | There is one buried deep in the QImage related code. | 19:24 |
| attah | And i may well lean on QImage outputting in that way in .pbm... but i'll need to do the RLE compression in my library code... and Qt isn't getting near that | 19:29 |
| poetaster | ah. I'll hvae to read your code. | 19:31 |
| poetaster | on my banal PWD front: Error reading SVG:Error opening file /home/mwa/src/sailfish/build-allthenews-SailfishOS_4_4_0_58_aarch64_in_Sailfish_SDK_Build_Engine-Release/17189PWD/harbour-allthenews.svg: | 19:32 |
| poetaster | I don't get the expansion $$ seems to be PWD | 19:32 |
| poetaster | ah, spec != pro | 19:33 |
| attah | hmm... these kinds of build systems always was too much magic for me | 19:34 |
| poetaster | magic == variable injection | 19:34 |
| poetaster | interesting. the file is not there (.sfdk in build) | 19:46 |
| poetaster | wo. sucks: .sfdk/src/ works in the SDK. something is broken. | 19:50 |
| poetaster | Since I was getting nowhere, I thought I'd release something on the side: https://build.sailfishos.org/request/show/2158 | 19:57 |
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