| poetaster | lolek, you got that solved with nephros help, or? | 11:41 |
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| mal | piggz[m]: poetaster: hi, about chum build, do we need those older targets like pre-3.4.0 and also those non-final release like 4.4.0.64? | 12:52 |
| mal | oops | 12:53 |
| mal | was meant to rinigus | 12:53 |
| poetaster | mal, I think only olf (?) cares about pre 3.4 but rinigus will know better. | 13:15 |
| poetaster | mal, olf was / is supporting openrepos storeman for older releases. | 13:16 |
| mal | poetaster: do you think we can remove those non-final release builds? | 13:45 |
| mal | for example early access targets are quite useless probably now | 13:46 |
| mal | and most people should have updated to latest version anyway | 13:46 |
| poetaster | mal, 3.1 and 3.2 and 3.3 would be what you mean? I dimly remember olf saying 3.2 was important, though I can't imagine why. | 13:52 |
| mal | poetaster: I mean those 4.3.0.12, 4.4.0.58, 4.4.0.64, 4.4.0.68 and of course those very old ones | 13:53 |
| mal | 4.3.0.15 and 4.4.0.72 were the final ones of those | 13:54 |
| poetaster | mal, yes, that was clear. it's more a question for ports maintainers, I think. most ports will, however only need one or two older than current. | 13:55 |
| mal | poetaster: is olf somewhere on irc or elsewhere+ | 13:55 |
| poetaster | mal, forum only, I think. I do have his phone number. | 13:56 |
| poetaster | mal, it's a lot of dead code from my vantage and wasts compute. But I think 4.3.0.12 4.4.0.58, 4.4.0.64 (piggz?) can go. but, for instance, piggz never did .68 so he'd see that different. | 13:59 |
| mal | yeah, those make building things much slower | 14:00 |
| poetaster | mal, I don't know about 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 since as a dev I'm gradually not supporting older than 4.2 | 14:00 |
| poetaster | mal, that's clear, the less, the merrier. | 14:01 |
| poetaster | I'd toss, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 4.3.0.12, 4.3.0.15, 4.4.0.58 without flinching. but I'm probably evil. | 14:02 |
| mal | 3.4.0 is there because it's last release of jolla phone | 14:03 |
| poetaster | mal, I'd keep the old 3.3 & 3.4, but I'm unsure of the utility of 4.0, for instance? | 14:03 |
| mal | yeah, make one or two of those old ones and then maybe like 3 latest final releases | 14:04 |
| mal | that should be enough for most people | 14:04 |
| poetaster | mal, I believe so. olf will probably kill me :) | 14:05 |
| mal | maybe we could ask on forum | 14:06 |
| poetaster | mal, I can do so if you wish? | 14:06 |
| mal | sure, go ahead | 14:07 |
| poetaster | mal. ok. | 14:08 |
| poetaster | mal, by 3 latest final do you mean 4.4.0.72, 4.3.0.15, 4.2.0.21 | 14:09 |
| mal | yes, then 3.4.0 and maybe some other if needed | 14:09 |
| poetaster | ok. I'll post a question in General? | 14:11 |
| mal | not sure where chum discussion is there usually | 14:11 |
| mal | we might also consider keeping the non-final release of 4.4.0 for a while so we don't immediately remove those when new release comes | 14:12 |
| poetaster | it's distributed, announcements, was were the re-float note went | 14:12 |
| poetaster | mal, I'll go general. | 14:13 |
| mal | ok | 14:13 |
| Keto | is the build number in the version necessary? would it work if going forward we would have just x.y.z, which will point to what ever is the last x.y.z.n release | 14:20 |
| poetaster | mal: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/which-releases-should-obs-support/14323 | 14:21 |
| mal | Keto: that would be nice but not sure what changes would be needed for that | 14:21 |
| mal | poetaster: you forgot 3.4.0 | 14:22 |
| poetaster | mal, I've made a 'conservative' suggestion, noting you would probably trim more which, personally, I'd also do. I've mentioned @olf and @piggz and 'waves hands at porters). | 14:22 |
| mal | ah, sorry misread | 14:22 |
| poetaster | yeah, remove, maybe I should have listed the keeps :) | 14:22 |
| mal | maybe the post should mention this is mostly about chum | 14:23 |
| poetaster | mal, ok, I think that's important. I'll edit. | 14:23 |
| mal | ports usually have the older targets disabled so those won't build | 14:23 |
| poetaster | mal, whic makes sense since they probably wont build :) | 14:24 |
| mal | yeah, no need to rebuild those and prevents accidents if someone changes the common hw project | 14:24 |
| mal | I think I would change the topic of that thread to "What releases should chum support" | 14:25 |
| poetaster | Ok, will do | 14:27 |
| poetaster | ok, done. | 14:28 |
| mal | thanks | 14:28 |
| poetaster | reminds me, I'm still running 2.2 on the jolla phone. sigh. | 14:28 |
| mal | hopefully there will be some discussion | 14:28 |
| mal | hehe | 14:28 |
| poetaster | mal, ah, there's a lot going on. I sent out a grant application yesterday, rubados is getting me feedback and I think that key peer project will go, the sailmates in austria are ramping up and, and, and all the bugs ! | 14:30 |
| poetaster | good ting I'm unemployed for a a while. it feels a bit like a full time job, this SFOS thing :) | 14:30 |
| poetaster | I hope all you sailors are'nt drowning in work. | 14:33 |
| poetaster | mal, we have feedback coming in ;) | 14:51 |
| rinigus | mal and Keto: would be nice to trim chum at OBS. as I posted in forum, ideally it could be done via stats and cutting off repos without external to OBS downloads (some packages depend on each other during build making false positives). | 18:11 |
| rinigus | not sure whether it is simple, though | 18:11 |
| piggz | rinigus: i guess you actioned all flypig's submits today :) | 18:16 |
| rinigus | piggz: no, I didn't. I was sure it was you :) . | 18:17 |
| piggz | oh :) | 18:17 |
| piggz | mal? | 18:17 |
| rinigus | piggz: he revoked them | 18:18 |
| piggz | oh | 18:18 |
| rinigus | I guess there is a bug to fix... | 18:18 |
| Keto | we probably need to investigate the possibility to alias or link the extra point releases on the server side. or have option for something like %(release_major) in ssu repo url templates | 19:04 |
| Keto | or how do you manage the chum repo url on the device? I should probably at some point use the chum client and check what it does :) | 19:07 |
| piggz_ | Keto: it doesnt do anything weird :) | 19:10 |
| Keto | heh | 19:11 |
| poetaster | mal, I hope you're satisfied that there has been somme discussion ;) | 20:29 |
| flypig | piggz_, rinigus, sorry for all the revoked requests. There should still be one remaining. | 22:06 |
| piggz_ | flypig: i dont see any | 22:08 |
| flypig | piggz_, thanks for checking... I see now it was already accepted by rinigus. Thank you both! | 22:09 |
| piggz_ | ah ok, glad its sorted :) | 22:09 |
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