#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th October 2022

Meeting started by flypig at 07:00:32 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (flypig, 07:00:39)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-13th-october-2022/13107 (flypig, 07:00:43)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (flypig, 07:01:08)
    1. David Llewellyn-Jones, sailor @ jolla and chairperson (flypig, 07:01:32)
    2. Björn Bidar - Sailor @ Jolla (Thaodan, 07:02:03)
    3. Andrew Branson - sailor (abr, 07:02:13)
    4. Otto Mäkelä - community (ExTechOp, 07:02:13)
    5. fridlmue - community (fridl, 07:02:36)
    6. Damien Caliste, community (dcaliste, 07:03:36)
    7. Simonas Leleiva -- privateer for Jolla (sledges, 07:03:52)
    8. Ville Nummela - sailor @ Jolla (ViGe, 07:06:04)
    9. pherjung, community (pherjung, 07:06:12)

  3. Future plans for SFOS hardware (5 minutes -- asked by ExTechOp) (flypig, 07:07:20)
    1. <ExTechOp> I am well aware that SFOS for the Xperia 10 III came available only fairly recently, and I am definitely **not** trying to whip the Jolla developers into a death march. (flypig, 07:07:39)
    2. <ExTechOp> However, numerous Xperia series devices (including the Xperia 10 IV) are currently available for bootloader unlocking at Sony Open Devices. (flypig, 07:08:05)
    3. https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader/ (flypig, 07:08:12)
    4. <ExTechOp> Are there plans for ports, are hardware platforms other than Sony being considered? Can a brief summary and/or a coarse time scale be revealed? (flypig, 07:08:24)
    5. <Jolla> Currently we don't have any updates to share on potential upcoming ports. (flypig, 07:09:13)
    6. Xperia 10 IV port is still work in progress on Sony's side. (Thaodan, 07:12:00)
    7. https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/bug_tracker/#supported-devices (Thaodan, 07:12:01)
    8. <pherjung> By the way, there is this issue where we can list ported devices (flypig, 07:16:22)
    9. https://github.com/sailfishos/docs.sailfishos.org/issues/75 (flypig, 07:16:28)

  4. Request an update from Jolla of any work work underway to improve general mobile-data compatibility for the 10iii with mobile network operators. (10 minutes -- asked by PeegeeTips) (flypig, 07:22:45)
    1. <PeegeeTips> Reading the forum on a regular basis i get the subjective sense that since the release of the 10iii support there has been a significant number of bug threads from new 10iii users reporting problems accessing mobile data from their mobile operator supplied sim. (flypig, 07:23:02)
    2. <PeegeeTips> By 'significant' I mean more than I am used to seeing in recent years for other new hardware releases like the 10ii. (flypig, 07:23:13)
    3. <PeegeeTips> What I would like is a comment from Jolla on whether they recognise a general compatibility problem that has resulted in a significant number of edge-cases where people have had problems with [their] mobile operator. (flypig, 07:23:22)
    4. <PeegeeTips> And in addition, if there is a problem with more edge-case compatibility problems; how this is being addressed in upcoming releases like SFOS 4.5? (flypig, 07:23:35)
    5. <Jolla> There were significant changes made to the telephony stack in recent releases. (flypig, 07:24:05)
    6. <Jolla> We continue to work to bring VoLTE support out of beta and to improve connectivity reliability overall. There were two telephony bugs fixed in the 4.4.0.72 release and there are more in the pipeline. (flypig, 07:24:11)
    7. https://github.com/mer-hybris/ofono-binder-plugin/pull/17 (flypig, 07:24:22)
    8. https://github.com/mer-hybris/ofono-binder-plugin/pull/18 (flypig, 07:24:26)
    9. <Jolla> This is part of a continual process. We touched on earlier fixes in your previous related question. (flypig, 07:24:31)
    10. https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-08-18-07.00.html (flypig, 07:24:37)
    11. <Jolla> PeegeeTips, we're aware that you're experiencing a particular issue with Talkmobile in the UK. Unfortunately we've not been able to get to the bottom of it, but hope we can work with you on it. (flypig, 07:24:46)
    12. <Jolla> For anyone else wanting to help diagnose issues, please see this Zendesk article for how to collect oFono logs. (flypig, 07:24:56)
    13. https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203294343-How-to-collect-oFono-logs (flypig, 07:25:03)

  5. Open PR discussion (10 min -- asked by jolla) (flypig, 07:31:52)
    1. <jolla> We didn't have any PRs raised in advance of the meeting. Feel free to raise any now if you'd like to discuss them. (flypig, 07:31:56)

  6. Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung) (flypig, 07:37:30)
    1. <jolla> The Community Bug Coordination Team have done a superb job once again this fortnight. (flypig, 07:37:44)
    2. <Jolla> As a result of their work, we now have: (flypig, 07:37:50)
    3. <Jolla> - 6 high quality bug reports now recorded internally and tagged as "tracked". (flypig, 07:37:53)
    4. <Jolla> - 2 bug reports tagged as "fixed". (flypig, 07:37:57)
    5. <Jolla> - 2 marked as duplicates and closed. (flypig, 07:38:00)
    6. <Jolla> - 2 closed as being unrelated to Sailfish OS. (flypig, 07:38:03)
    7. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/wiki-collecting-debug-information/12751 (thilo[m], 07:43:28)
    8. <thilo[m]> i/we spend considerable time trying to remember where again those logs were to find ;) thus help on my forum wiki post regarding debugging is appreciated ;) (flypig, 07:43:56)
    9. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/wiki-collecting-debug-information/12751 (flypig, 07:44:01)

  7. General discussion (20 min) (flypig, 07:46:33)
  8. Next meeting time and date (5 min) (flypig, 08:11:40)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 27th October 2022 at 07:00am UTC: 2022-10-27T0700Z (flypig, 08:13:43)


Meeting ended at 08:14:54 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. flypig (100)
  2. Thaodan (22)
  3. thilo[m] (18)
  4. ExTechOp (13)
  5. abr (12)
  6. fridl (8)
  7. sailbot (2)
  8. sledges (2)
  9. ViGe (2)
  10. pherjung (2)
  11. dcaliste (1)


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