| rainemak | good morning everybody! | 07:42 |
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| ExTechOp | Good Morning from me too! | 07:42 |
| voidanix[m] | mornin' | 07:43 |
| Crabster | morning | 07:46 |
| nephros | hello! :) | 07:46 |
| rubdos[m] | o/ | 07:47 |
| rubdos[m] | I had too much coffee yesterday, so I'm sleep-deprived now. Let's do this! | 07:47 |
| ExTechOp | rubdos[m] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_Much_Coffee_Man | 07:53 |
| rubdos[m] | That was me, teaching at 8AM. They shouldn't let us teach at 8AM. | 07:54 |
| flypig | Morning! | 07:56 |
| direc85[m] | Good morning! I'm just starting my jug of coffee! | 07:57 |
| ViGe | morning | 07:57 |
| rainemak | I also grabbed a cup of coffee | 08:00 |
| rainemak | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023 | 08:00 |
| sailbot_ | Meeting started Thu Dec 21 08:00:11 2023 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
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| *** sailbot_ changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:00 | |
| rainemak | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 08:00 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-21st-december-2023/17546 | 08:00 |
| rainemak | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. | 08:00 |
| rainemak | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 08:00 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:00 | |
| ViGe | #info Ville Nummela - sailor @ Jolla | 08:01 |
| direc85[m] | #info Matti Viljanen - community | 08:01 |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen - sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today | 08:01 |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 08:01 |
| voidanix[m] | #info voidanix - lurking virtuoso | 08:01 |
| rainemak | voidanix[m], you're lurking too much as you raised two good topics. | 08:02 |
| rainemak | you're not | 08:02 |
| voidanix[m] | ;) | 08:02 |
| rubdos[m] | #info Ruben De Smet - community | 08:02 |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones - community | 08:03 |
| Keto | #info Pami Ketolainen - Sailor @ Jolla | 08:03 |
| Keto | (in a train, so might be online or not) | 08:04 |
| rainemak | Whilst going through introduction, I'm pleased to see good amount of topics raised. Unfortunately two of them were late submissions. Let these two topics drive us to a great start of the next year. | 08:04 |
| rainemak | participation goes to community :-) | 08:05 |
| rainemak | #topic Status of VoLTE packages availability (10mins -- asked by voidanix) | 08:05 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Status of VoLTE packages availability (10mins -- asked by voidanix) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:05 | |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> another SFOS release is supposedly behind the corner and many | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> carriers have been shutting down their 3G/2G infrastructures | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> this year. What is blocking Jolla from releasing the (currently | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> proprietary) VoLTE packages to public repositories, similarly | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> to how sailfish-fpd/sailfish-fpd-slave-binder are available, | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> for the next release? Even if possibly incompatible with other | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> devices, they would be of great use with ports whose | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> architecture is close to the ones of the SFOS X supported | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> devices (Qualcomm in general). | 08:06 |
| rainemak | Hopefully alignment is better now Keto ;-) | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Guess you’re referring to public OBS repositories. In theory that | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> should be doable. Difference to sailfish-fpd / | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> sailfish-fpd-slave-binder is that those are based on binder | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> interface whereas VoLTE is not based on similar common interface. | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Rather being hardware specific. So logically VoLTE belongs to | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> adaptation repository. That said, let’s see what we could do. | 08:06 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> This was added to our internal issue tracker as well. | 08:06 |
| direc85[m] | My first thought was that perhaps a common interface could be built on top of the adaptation packages. | 08:08 |
| rainemak | As far as I understand, those VoLTE packages are not necessarily easy make adaptation agnostic | 08:08 |
| voidanix[m] | thank you for the update; i raised this because we recently got a FOSS volte implementation on android | 08:08 |
| voidanix[m] | you can find the code at https://github.com/phhusson/ims | 08:09 |
| rainemak | I vaguely remember that there were some fundamental differences between xperia 10 II and xperia 10 III versions | 08:09 |
| nephros | #info Peter G., late community lurker | 08:10 |
| rainemak | After next adaptation after xperia 10 III I'd assume that common interface idea would become clearer | 08:10 |
| rainemak | #info <<voidanix> Thank you for the update; i raised this because we recently got a FOSS volte implementation on android | 08:11 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> you can find the code at https://github.com/phhusson/ims | 08:11 |
| ExTechOp | rainemak Does this difference have any connection to the way Xperia 10 III does not have functional echo cancellation in voice communication? | 08:11 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/phhusson/ims | 08:11 |
| voidanix[m] | ExTechOp, no, that should be related to broken ACDB | 08:11 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, I doubt it have | 08:11 |
| flypig | voidanix[m], the Android implementation looks interesting, but the repo is a bit sparse on details. Is there any more info about it anywhere? | 08:12 |
| rainemak | 3 minutes | 08:12 |
| voidanix[m] | flypig not yet, the first volte calls on samsung w/ custom ROM were done very recently | 08:12 |
| rainemak | voidanix[m], I agree with flypig. Indeed looks interesting. | 08:12 |
| voidanix[m] | after it becomes stable, community could use this for ports through some middleware | 08:13 |
| flypig | Okay, so I guess it's a work-in-progress. Hopefully more info soon then! | 08:13 |
| direc85[m] | Does anyone know if any other FOSS mobile OS has a working VoLTE? Is there a possibility of joining forces? | 08:14 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> The first volte calls on samsung w/ custom ROM were done very recently with FOSS volte implementation on Android | 08:14 |
| voidanix[m] | i have heard ubports was working on it very hard some time ago, no idea what happened to that effort | 08:14 |
| flypig | Certainly UBports is working on something, but I'm not sure of the current status. | 08:14 |
| rainemak | ub ports had plans some time back but haven't followed that progress | 08:14 |
| rainemak | voidanix[m], faster :-) | 08:15 |
| flypig | ditto :) | 08:15 |
| rainemak | I think that's about it. Good discussion. Thank you. | 08:16 |
| rainemak | Let's move on to next topic | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #topic Status of OpenSSL (5mins -- asked by voidanix) | 08:16 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Status of OpenSSL (5mins -- asked by voidanix) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:16 | |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> OpenSSL 1.1.1 has reached EOL in September this year. Is Jolla | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> already working internally on an upgrade to the latest 3.1 (or | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> even better, 3.2) version? If not, should we expect it for the | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <voidanix> release following the next one? | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Yes, we’re preparing & working on OpenSSL 3.1 upgrade, and target | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> is to get it for the next release. We have done a great amount of | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> package updates due to various reasons. With the updated packages | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> hopefully, we are not hitting too many builds errors when removing | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> deprecated OpenSSL 1.0 functions. Fixing this is a requirement to | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> go to 3.1. If we miss the next release, then target would be the | 08:16 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> release after next. | 08:16 |
| voidanix[m] | this is awesome, thank you; you guys should consider putting up WIP/draft PRs or just another branch for extra transparency | 08:18 |
| direc85[m] | I would like to also poke at Sailfish SDK installer :) | 08:18 |
| rubdos[m] | (Whisperfishers are whisteling innocently in the back of the room, vendoring OpenSSL like it's on Christmas sale) | 08:19 |
| nephros | BTW, OpenSSL 1.1.1 does get security updates for paying customers. Like Redhat. | 08:19 |
| rainemak | Certainly voidanix[m], transparency is good and may inspire others to help with the efforts. | 08:21 |
| voidanix[m] | that also prevents these kind of questions on community meetings ;) | 08:21 |
| direc85[m] | Happy to hear there's a lot of updates coming up - that means less technical debt! | 08:22 |
| rainemak | I think this was a good question | 08:22 |
| ViGe | direc85[m]: The SDK installer is a different story. The reason it hasn't been updated (yet) is that it has to work on all three platforms. And switching to a more recent openssl version requires updating ifw, which is always a lot of work. | 08:22 |
| rainemak | time to move one... | 08:22 |
| rainemak | Next topic is close to me heart as I earlier promised to look into it. Hopefully this time we can unblock the development. Thank you rubdos for pushing this. Let's keep the dialog open. Took a liberty to extend the next topic to 10mins. | 08:22 |
| rainemak | #topic cross-packages (10mins -- asked by rubdos and direc85) | 08:23 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "cross-packages (10mins -- asked by rubdos and direc85) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:23 | |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> Since 2022-12-14, several packages (including rust and cargo) have | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> build dependencies on cross-{armv7hl,aarch64}-{gcc,binutils,as,glibc} | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> and some more. I assume some refactoring has been done in the | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> packaging, since before that time, we could build rust etc. | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> ourselves on the Platform SDK. These packages are nowhere to be | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> found, nor can we find a way to build them ourselves, currently. | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> This makes it difficult to contribute patches to Rust (and gcc | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> and gecko, cc flypig), especially in terms of testing the | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> resulting compiler. | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> Would it be possible for Jolla to provide us with some insight, | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> sources and/or binaries for these missing dependencies? We have | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> asked mal on IRC a few times, to which the understandable answer | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> was that he could test the build on OBS. This is however not a | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> sustainable process, especially since we currently don’t get our | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> hands on the resulting 1.72 compiler. | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> rainemak already said in the previous meeting to have a look at | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <rubdos> this, but I’d like to formalize the request here. Thank you! | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Short answer, yes it is possible that we provide insight. Whilst we | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> were looking into this we noticed that testing the OBS build was | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> ok. As answer ended up being too long to irc meeting, we posted it | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> to the forum already. That should be a good baseline to continue | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> the discussion. | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-21st-december-2023/17546/11 | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Due to this question, we should create an article to the | 08:23 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> docs.sailfishos.org out of this explanation. Please do not hesitate | 08:24 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> to reach for example rainemak in some channel if you’re still | 08:24 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> facing issues. | 08:24 |
| rainemak | I think we should fork the community meeting reply out to a separate thread and continue updating there | 08:24 |
| rainemak | alternatively or even parallel, we create the first docs.sailfishos.org article that would be a baseline | 08:25 |
| rubdos[m] | Oh I could've done my homework 22 hours ago | 08:25 |
| direc85[m] | Same here..! | 08:26 |
| rainemak | rubdos[m], I tested on 4.5.0.18 rustc tarball building with the instructions... and at least that looked good | 08:26 |
| rainemak | no worries rubdos[m] & direc85[m] | 08:26 |
| rubdos[m] | Bit weird that you have to revert the cross compiler buildrequires patch (which I also tried, by they way, but possibly on a too old SDK) | 08:27 |
| rubdos[m] | Thanks for the answer! | 08:27 |
| rainemak | that cross buildreq is for OBS only | 08:28 |
| ViGe | hmm | 08:28 |
| rubdos[m] | Maybe it's an idea to keep the README up-to-date with build instructions in the rust repo? I think it'd make even more sense there than on docs.sailfishos.org | 08:28 |
| rainemak | idea was that we put also big notes to the spec directly next to the block | 08:28 |
| rubdos[m] | rainemak: That's quite unfortunate, honestly. It makes me think that there's a discrepancy between what OBS uses to build vs. what we can use to build. | 08:29 |
| rubdos[m] | rainemak: That's a good start I think :) | 08:29 |
| rainemak | rubdos[m], this is on the same magnitude level as xulrunner | 08:29 |
| rainemak | and some insights are easily needed | 08:29 |
| rainemak | rubdos[m], I like the idea of repo README as well | 08:30 |
| rainemak | #action <Jolla> Create an article to the docs.sailfishos.org regarding this topic | 08:30 |
| direc85[m] | That's quite a reply indeed! I'll have to go through it with though later today and try it out. | 08:30 |
| rainemak | It's time to move on | 08:31 |
| flypig | Thanks also for linking to the dumb package building instructions. That always causes a mess for me with sfdk. | 08:31 |
| rubdos[m] | This sounds like we might have Whisperfish on 1.72 by EONW, that would be very helpful. We might stop shipping OpenSSL 1.1.1 even! Thanks, let's move on :) | 08:31 |
| rainemak | Next topic was raised already to the previous meeting by cquence but as a bit late submission. So, let's cover it now. | 08:31 |
| rainemak | #topic What are the plans to enable 5G connectivity? (5mins -- asked by TNZ & cquence) | 08:31 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "What are the plans to enable 5G connectivity? (5mins -- asked by TNZ & cquence) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:31 | |
| rainemak | #info <cquence> I remember some work taking place a while ago. Any update you | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info <cquence> can share would be great! P.S. Well done on the restructuring | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info <cquence> and fair winds ahead! I probably won’t be able to attend due to | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info <cquence> work commitments but will read the logs afterwards. | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> There are 3-5 major stories which we’d still like to sort out for | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> the next release and 5G is one of them. So far 5G works on | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Sailfish OS side but AppSupport plugin is not yet finalized. Half | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> cooked version is bad as that would break mobile data with | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> AppSupport. If we miss the next release, then target would be the | 08:32 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> release after next. | 08:32 |
| rubdos[m] | That's a very concrete and hopeful reply, I would say. | 08:33 |
| flypig | Are any of the 5G changes in open repos? I'm just thinking knowing this would help to follow along (I'm assuming the AppSupport changes won't be). | 08:33 |
| direc85[m] | That's indeed a motivating reply to read - along with the previous ones! | 08:34 |
| rainemak | flypig, I guess some went already in way back | 08:34 |
| rainemak | on the enabler side afair | 08:35 |
| flypig | rainemak, thanks; I guess there's nothing particular to look at then. But this will be a wonderful update when it drops :) | 08:35 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/mer-hybris/ofono-binder-plugin/pull/28 | 08:35 |
| rainemak | for example | 08:35 |
| flypig | Nice; thank you! | 08:36 |
| rainemak | this is similar https://github.com/sailfishos/ofono/pull/40 | 08:36 |
| flypig | It looks like magic to me :) | 08:37 |
| voidanix[m] | surprised these PRs haven't been mentioned anywhere AFAIK | 08:38 |
| rainemak | let's move to the open PR discussion.. we can continue on the general discussion at the end | 08:38 |
| flypig | voidanix[m], I'm certain they will have made it into dcaliste's roundups at some point. | 08:38 |
| rainemak | I guess damien picked them up back then | 08:38 |
| rainemak | :-) | 08:38 |
| flypig | :D | 08:38 |
| rainemak | #topic Open PR discussion (10 mins -- asked by Jolla) | 08:38 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Open PR discussion (10 mins -- asked by Jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:38 | |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> Any open PRs to discuss? | 08:38 |
| direc85[m] | rainemak: perhaps #link the second PR too? | 08:39 |
| direc85[m] | (a bit late tho) | 08:39 |
| rainemak | :-) | 08:39 |
| rainemak | direc85[m], I'll relink them to the general | 08:39 |
| rainemak | Let's move and safe time for the general discussion... | 08:41 |
| rainemak | #info <topic> Bug reports by the community bug coordination team (5 min -- asked by Jolla) | 08:42 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> No bug reports for this community meeting. Merry Christmas for the | 08:42 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> whole Community Bug Coordination Team and happy new year! You have | 08:42 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> done fantastic job the year! | 08:42 |
| rainemak | #info <topic> Bug reports by the community bug coordination team (5 min -- asked by Jolla) | 08:42 |
| rainemak | sailbot_, huhuu ? | 08:42 |
| ExTechOp | He's Dead, Jim. | 08:43 |
| rainemak | # Bug reports by the community bug coordination team (5 min -- asked by Jolla) | 08:43 |
| rainemak | #topic Bug reports by the community bug coordination team (5 min -- asked by Jolla) | 08:43 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Bug reports by the community bug coordination team (5 min -- asked by Jolla) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:43 | |
| rainemak | it was my typo | 08:43 |
| voidanix[m] | rest in pepperoni sailbot :< | 08:43 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> No bug reports for this community meeting. Merry Christmas for the | 08:43 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> whole Community Bug Coordination Team and happy new year! You have | 08:43 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> done fantastic job the year! | 08:43 |
| rainemak | Let's move on to the general discussion. | 08:44 |
| rainemak | #topic General discussion (10 min) | 08:44 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "General discussion (10 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:44 | |
| flypig | The Taiga board from the Bug Coordination Team is a sight to behold. | 08:44 |
| ExTechOp | Now that we've been informed that several major changes and upgrades have been scheduled for the next release (or the one after that), is there a coarse schedule of when releases would occur? | 08:44 |
| rainemak | #info Some 5G related PRs | 08:44 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/sailfishos/ofono/pull/40 | 08:44 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/mer-hybris/ofono-binder-plugin/pull/28 | 08:44 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/sailfishos/libqofonoext/pull/3 | 08:44 |
| rainemak | #link https://github.com/sailfishos/libgofono/pull/2 | 08:44 |
| flypig | Let me just say what a phenomenal job the BCT done through the entire year. I take my hat off to them. | 08:44 |
| ViGe | rainemak: Also this: https://github.com/mer-hybris/libgbinder-radio/pull/27 | 08:45 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, what I have learned is that whatever I'd say aloud it will get misinterpreted | 08:45 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, Thus, better not to say even a coarse schedule regarding the release | 08:46 |
| ExTechOp | Failing that, is there even a meta-date when you'd be able to tell when the next release is due? | 08:46 |
| flypig | Thanks for all those links; that's quite a collection. | 08:46 |
| flypig | From the 5G discussion, I'm just now discovering (from looking at the code) that "5G NR" stands for "New Radio" (as opposed to 4G LTE = Long Term Evolution"). Makes me wonder what the acronym for 6G will be! | 08:46 |
| ViGe | the release will occur when it's ready ;) | 08:46 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, funny | 08:46 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> If you’re interested in testing CLAT with latest changes, please | 08:46 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> read from here https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/testing-clat-for-ipv6-only-mobile-networks/14520/175 | 08:46 |
| rainemak | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/testing-clat-for-ipv6-only-mobile-networks/14520/175 | 08:46 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> The release will occur when it's ready ;) | 08:47 |
| flypig | We'll hold you to that! | 08:47 |
| ExTechOp | By the way, I'd like to say thank you to the Jolla/Jollyboys team for staying through these difficult times, and hopefully 2024 will be more steady sailing through calmer waters! | 08:48 |
| rainemak | Generally and frankly speaking, everybody is behaving well in the community meetings | 08:48 |
| rainemak | and tone of voice is good I think | 08:49 |
| rainemak | #info <Jolla> We wish you all Merry Christmas and Happy new year! This is the last community meeting of this year. | 08:50 |
| direc85[m] | I'm interested in the Rust update: There's 1.61.0 in master already so that's given, are there plans to get 1.72.1 merged for the next/next+1 release? If we can compile it ourselves now, that's more than enough really, just bumping that PR up (I typed too slow earlier) | 08:50 |
| rubdos[m] | Have a great end of year, all of you! Thanks for the meeting :) | 08:50 |
| flypig | ExTechOp, totally agreed. Thanks to all the Jolla/Jollyboys team for all of your hard work this year. | 08:50 |
| rainemak | direc85[m], I think we shouldn't rule out rust update from the next release - window is still open let's say | 08:51 |
| rainemak | direc85[m], given that xulrunner builds fine against newer rust (1.72.1 even) and works and your tests are all fine => Probably could go in. | 08:53 |
| rainemak | xulrunner being the only platform dependency | 08:53 |
| direc85[m] | Great news! | 08:53 |
| rubdos[m] | I might try rebasing on 1.73/1.74 then even, because that will even ship an edition update iirc | 08:53 |
| rubdos[m] | That could be worth the effort... | 08:54 |
| rubdos[m] | Great news either way! | 08:54 |
| direc85[m] | Wasn't there LLVM update required too? | 08:54 |
| rainemak | rubdos[m], once there's something that builds, I can webhook it to the OBS | 08:54 |
| rainemak | I think mal poken LLVM update at point | 08:54 |
| direc85[m] | Oh, it's already at 14. Nice! | 08:54 |
| rubdos[m] | that, and I have LLVM 15 and 16 laying around iirc | 08:55 |
| rainemak | Before final merry xmas wishes... let's schedule next community meeting | 08:55 |
| direc85[m] | Yes, those PR's are ready :) | 08:55 |
| rainemak | #topic Next meeting time and date (5 mins) | 08:56 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (5 mins) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 21st Dec 2023)" | 08:56 | |
| rainemak | Proposing Thursday 11th January at 08:00am UTC. | 08:56 |
| ExTechOp | Works4Me. I guess 2024-01-04 is too early, people still on Christmas vacation? | 08:57 |
| direc85[m] | That works for me | 08:57 |
| rainemak | We have community newsletter planned for 4th Jan which might be a stretched goal. | 08:57 |
| rainemak | ExTechOp, that was exactly behind thinking as well | 08:58 |
| flypig | I'm hoping for a flurry of app development over the Christmas break to go in the newsletter :) | 08:58 |
| ExTechOp | I've said this before, it'd be nice to have mosh available on Chum :-D | 09:00 |
| rainemak | sounds that we have a date for the first 2024 community meeting | 09:00 |
| rainemak | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 11th January 2023 at 08:00am UTC: 2024-01-11T0800Z | 09:00 |
| ExTechOp | Thank you, everyone! | 09:00 |
| rainemak | I want to thank you all on my behalf for this year! What a great community we have here! | 09:01 |
| flypig | Thank you rainemak, all! | 09:01 |
| voidanix[m] | ditto, thanks for the meeting and merry xmas+happy new year | 09:01 |
| direc85[m] | Thank you! What a nice ending to the year! | 09:01 |
| flypig | Yes, same. Merry Christmas everyone! Roll on 2024! | 09:01 |
| ViGe | Merry Christmas everyone! And a note to Santa, as you are reading the meeting notes, please take a note on how well everyone here behaves! | 09:02 |
| direc85[m] | Merry Christmas everyone! Let 2024 come, we're ready for it :) | 09:02 |
| rainemak | #endmeeting | 09:03 |
| sailbot_ | Meeting ended Thu Dec 21 09:03:16 2023 UTC. | 09:03 |
| sailbot_ | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-12-21-08.00.html | 09:03 |
| sailbot_ | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-12-21-08.00.txt | 09:03 |
| sailbot_ | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-12-21-08.00.log.html | 09:03 |
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